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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:25 PM Original message |
"Court Fines NYC Transit Strikers $1M a Day " ......CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't do the crime if you don't want the fine |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If all other unions do not honor the picket lines, the transit workers |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. That would be unfortunate because I honor and approve |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Why do you HATE America??? You against Union, you hate American! |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It's a reflex |
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ugarte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. You need to read a little history |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So, you believe there should be no contraint on striking ? |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Those laws are being chipped away. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. I think Taylor is illegal, personally |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Point of terminology |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Deleted message |
Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Violating a contract and the laws governing it are not First Amendment |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Do you know when and why the Taylor was written and passed? |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. It's worth repeating: "If people had waited for strikes to be legal... |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. My Late-Husband Just Rolled Over in His Grave... |
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BigYawn (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Touche!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
53. The local union is completely on its own. |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. bingo |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. I'm amazed at all the anti-worker sentiment here lately. |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I am equally amazed |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. If you're ant-union/anti-l;abor you aren't liberal/Dem |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. SO now you've annointed yourself |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
55. being a progressive |
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linazelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. Sorry, but union support is only one of many dem platforms. Not |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, |
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BigYawn (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
52. Since when following laws is anti-worker? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. You might want to address this one to W who keeps "taking responsibility" |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. You don't fuck with a working man's pension and get away with it |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Even Spitzer went to court to get the strike declared illegal. |
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deadmessengers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Wait a minute |
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johnnyburma (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Bingo! |
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InkAddict (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. No, indeed, what one does is |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. I can absolutely believe it -- here's why... |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. So, will they settle for a reformation of the MTA and an honest public |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. maybe more information is needed... |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Who is being thrown like garbage in the street ? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. My comment was made in response to my perception... |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. The Taylor Law provides for the procedures to be followed |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Here's an excellent analysis of the situation from the NY Daily News... |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The strike is still illegal. Even Spitzer went to court to enjoin it. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I never said it wasn't, nor did I say that Spitzer didn't go to court... |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. Trying to break one more union |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. This one is a high priority - they protest the war too! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
21. $1m/day vs $400m/day. How much $ does the union have and, better, |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. The Union has $3.5 Million in assets. |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. How else are we the people suppose to |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. NY City could legally fire them all and hire replacements. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. That fucking sucks. really, really sucks. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. They are not City employees. MTA is a state agency. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. actuall no they cannto |
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johnnyburma (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Greedy corporate ruler: bad! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. Sad day for labor indeed. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. Knew That One Was Coming. |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
39. the fine is for the union |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Fines won't stop this fight and scabs won't drive the trains. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
47. I believe it in Bush's America. hate Union goons on DU heckling all day |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
48. I can believe it |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I thought the strike was over working conditions... |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Over pensions for NEWLY hired workers. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 10:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Thanks. n/t |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
59. Look at the President and look at who most of these people are. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. Oh gosh |
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Lefty48197 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. Any "fines" become items that need to be negotiated to end the strike. |
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