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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:37 PM Original message |
Infant Mortality Rate Rises in U.S. for First Time in More Than 40 Years |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. yeah, but abortions are down |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Lack of Health Insurance |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. That's true |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Well, I think the problem with a lot of them is that they're just plain |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Actually abortions are up from what they were under Clinton (NT) |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Yes, that's an important point |
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Samurai_Writer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Actually abortions are up from what they were under Clinton (NT) |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Ironically Abortions are UP. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Yes, that's another good point |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. No, abortions are not down; they are up under chimpy. |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. Current stats on infant mortality in the US: UN report 2005 |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Thanks for the link to the UN report |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. health care in the US is a joke. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:10 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. It's not good, especially considering how much money we have |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. grown-up mortality ain't great either |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. But only if you have enough insurance |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. Infant mortality is the truest measure - IMO - of a nation's success |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Infant mortality rate is certainly the best indicator of health status |
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bmbmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Does the meth and crack cocaine |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Drugs may play some role |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. smart people saw that the ussr was headed for the toilet |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Headed for? Seems to me the flushing sound is always in |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hell even before Bush we weren't "all that". |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It's true that, as I say in my OP, we compare very poorly with other |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Recognition for achievements balanced by recognition of anything else? |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Look outside the box. |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Will I have to look outside the box and outside of the website that you |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Well the worst human rights abuses in Cuba are under US direction |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Very good points n/t |
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CAcyclist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. If you have something to contribute |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here's some interesting Red vs. Blue state comparisons |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I would surmise Utah is "healthy" because of the Mormon population. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No doubt you are right about Utah |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
55. So how much is personal responsibility and how much someone else's? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Health status is very complex |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. well stated |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Yes, I believe that everyone should have the right to decent health care |
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Rainbow gatherer (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Can social class birth rate differences be responsible? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Poor people also are less likely to have health insurance. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Not just that |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Great post. And that is so right, |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. These are all very important issues that contribute to infant mortality |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I think the number of children does make a difference. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. In general, a large number of children is mildly related to decreased |
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Rainbow gatherer (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Utah is Mormon and... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. You're right about the Mormons |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. You summed up the point nicely |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I"m afraid that you're right about that, |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I tried to hit the highlights |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
17. Perhaps an equally important issue is |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 10:49 AM Response to Reply #17 |
47. Latest U.N. report...U.S. Infant Mortality up each of last 5 years. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. We're on par with Malaysia |
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Gronk Groks (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Infant Mortality @ 3rd world levels in America... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 09:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. It comes to about 800 |
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auburngrad82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. that's because "pro life" stops at birth |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. But as pointed out by some other posters on this thread |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
45. Abortion rate in U.S. plummets during Clinton Presidency |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. Financial condition of mother is important factor in abortion rate |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
48. finally we see what pro-life is really about |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
51. Now Republicans kill dogs AND babies. |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
52. None of this matters......... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. All evil people are hypocrites |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
53. I have an idea about why many 'pro-life' people don't care |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I'm sure that there will be many who will not be affected by these stats |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. They only care about RICH WHITE REPUBLICAN BABIES unless preaching |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Thank you Hope - actually it was one of your recent posts that gave me the |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Ah, THIS post about the Katrina deaths, you mean: |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Yep, that's it. It reminded me of my days working for the |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. The parallel you draw is clear. The deaths these people are leaving |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-23-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. You're welcome. Keep up the great work! n/t |
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