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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:31 PM Original message |
I've been counting the cards and PNAC still has an ace up their sleeve |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. If only we'd redeployed when Murtha asked us to |
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stopbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. You miss one important issue: |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I really don't think these people care about that. |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
71. You don't think OPEC would vote to embargo oil in a nanosecon if |
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Brundle_Fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. dont forget syria |
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info being (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Yes...and we all know the US cannot win a war |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. there might be an ace up the Iranian's sleeves, too |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That would also feed into the Fundies Armageddon |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
56. A couple of aces if this report is true.... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
57. double post |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. OMG! |
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ptolle (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. depressing |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I think the dead troops would trump that |
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Radio_Lady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Don't agree with Walt Starr.. Walt, you must relax and take a deep breath. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Have to agree w/ Walt on this one. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
9. Russia & China will not sit by & let America control Iran's Oil |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. That is right. |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Good to see you Beam Me Up |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The world certainly is becoming more curious by the day, is it not? |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Good find ....thanks |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. That would be damned stupid... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. The only bombing we do to start it is to bomb their nuclear facilities |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yeah but there's no consensus for that anywhere.. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. It doesn't even have to be us who bombs it. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. REALLY BAD IDEA... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:07 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Bookmark this thread |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Bush will be impeached soon anyways.. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. So what? It isn't bush *doing it* to begin with. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. This is defeatism... |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:59 AM Original message |
We disagree on both points. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
42. And it won't be... |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. No. You misread what I'm saying. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:03 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Sorry but I'm not a tinfoil hat wearer.... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I sincerely believe you underestimate this administration's culpability. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. There's a difference between INTENT and ABILITY... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. In spite of reality, they are convinced that our superior military,... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. It just won't happen... |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I hope you're right. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. sorry, but I'm not a horse blinder wearer.... |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Hey HATWEARER |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. So in your real world, you apparently foresee the House Republicans |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Apparently you can't read.... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. You are simply and blindly accepting the Governments |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. It's not "blind faith" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. all tinfoil hat arguments are obsolete. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. No I don't dismiss it all as I have already said. |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
75. No tinfoil needed. You believe Bush has taken "shameless advantage" |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-20-05 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. PNAC has another ace: a terrorist attack in the U.S. And guess who'll take |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
14. This or something like it has been in the works FOR YEARS. |
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sproutster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Sadly I believe you |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. The questions you pose are the questions I've asked my whole life. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Power expands |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
22. God, I hope you're wrong! |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
23. Another preemptive action by Bush would not be tolerated. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
45. Great sig line. n/t |
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Karmakaze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
31. Your theory expects the US to make the first move... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. That is a nightmare scenario |
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dusmcj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:39 AM Response to Original message |
32. there's a simple solution there that PNAC wouldn't like |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:56 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Just a few points |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:08 AM Response to Original message |
33. what is the rationale for the airstrikes? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 05:12 AM Response to Original message |
35. K&R, fer chrissakes! |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
38. Iran couldn't go on the offensive effectively vs. Iraq almost 20yrs ago |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. There was actually an Iraqi Army and Air Force 20 years ago. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
41. I hope you're wrong about this. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. A declared war is a whole 'nother ball of wax |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. True, a declared war is a different thing. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
44. "We'd need a lot more soldiers ..." |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
46. Dubya can't conscript enough troops fast enough |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
48. Would be a very big risk due to oil supply... |
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converted_democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
49. I gave the 4th vote...Can I get a 5th??? This needs to be seen.. |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
51. I think this is what they WANT |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
52. I wonder if they're still going to do it |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
53. K/R nt |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
54. Sorry - so many holes in this fantasy it's pure tinfoil to me. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Care to elaborate? n/t |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #60 |
78. Not really - just checking in. n/t |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Okay, so it's tinfoilhat stuff, but you just can't say why |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. It's all about opinion and theory. I *can* say why but don't want to get |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
67. This is the hidden factor, I agree! |
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Boxerfan (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
70. SPOOKY POST... |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-21-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I dont think the PNAC holds cards that good |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
76. I think you are on the right track |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
77. I think you've gone around the bend on this one. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Care to elaborate? n/t |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-22-05 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
81. this is why the election was a win for neocons |
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Clara T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-25-05 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
85. kick |
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