Hawkeye-X
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:09 PM
Original message |
| THIS IS IT! CLOTURE VOTE NOW! PLEASE REPORT NAYS AND AYES HERE! |
|
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:10 PM by HawkeyeX
1-800-426-8073 - call your senators to filibuster!
|
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:21 PM
Response to Original message |
| 1. Okay, I'm lost. Which side is trying to invoke Cloture? |
|
Right now it is 34 yea, 30 no. I'm guessing we need 60 noes?
|
SaveElmer
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:22 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 2. We need 41 to keep the filibuster going |
|
Our side is probably the nay side...
|
alcibiades_mystery
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
| 6. no, they just need to NOT get 60 |
alcibiades_mystery
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 3. wrong...they need 60 ayes |
Norquist Nemesis
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
| 7. GOP trying to invoke cloture; need 60 to do it |
|
41 nays and cloture is not invoked. We want nays.
|
merh
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
Response to Original message |
|
The survivors and the troops should not be held hostage -- the greed of the corporations and the politicians should not come into play. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5656860
|
stop the bleeding
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:23 PM
Response to Original message |
| 5. I have been listening at work and have heard a lot of "yes" |
stop the bleeding
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 11. Feinstein and Obama - No's |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
Immad2
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:24 PM
Response to Original message |
| 8. Landrieu and Nelson of Nebraska voted aye |
Plausible
(386 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
Immad2
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| 20. No - but Chaffee just voted no |
Immad2
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #20 |
| 24. Dewine - no, Akaka - aye |
seshers
(206 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
Response to Original message |
| 9. Current count for cube rats? |
derby378
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:25 PM
Response to Original message |
| 10. Obama - NO, Hutchison - AYE |
RebelOne
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
Response to Original message |
| 12. Too many ayes. Is anyone keeping count? |
Plausible
(386 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:26 PM
Response to Original message |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
stop the bleeding
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
| 21. No Chaffee, Spector Yes, Cole No |
derby378
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:27 PM
Response to Original message |
|
This is for the FY 2006 Defense Appropriations Bill.
There is a rider attached that will allow for oil drilling in ANWR.
|
stop the bleeding
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:28 PM
Response to Original message |
| 18. No - Biden and Lautenburg - McCain - Yes - fucker |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #18 |
| 19. my count now has it at 55 yea, 42 nay - doesn't that shut it down? |
stop the bleeding
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
Original message |
| I can not find a list - but if that count is right then yes we did it. |
Walt Starr
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 22. Yes, it is effectively filibustered. |
|
But there were threats of the nuclear option being invoked on this one.
|
Just Me
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #22 |
| 27. I am so tired of this shit! I hope you're right, Walt. n/t |
Walt Starr
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
| 30. 41 votes is all that is needed to filibuster |
|
IF the 42 count is correct, it's filibustered.
|
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 26. DeWine apparently has changed his vote but I'm not sure who |
|
else has changed. My count now has it at 59 to 43 which is, of course, messed up. Don't know who to move from one column to the next. Anyone got a better count?
|
ohtransplant
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
Response to Original message |
| 23. DeWine of Ohio - No n/t |
WilliamPitt
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
Response to Original message |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #25 |
| 29. Looks like a lot of arm twisting going on. Half the repugs will |
|
spend the holidays with their arms in a cast.
Seems like some of the people are going back and changing their votes so I have lost count. I did have 43 nays but now I just don't know.
|
Armstead
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:32 PM
Response to Original message |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #28 |
| 31. Are they holding the vote open? Seems like time should have expired. n/t |
MallRat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 36. GOP Leadership can do anything they want on this. |
|
A couple years ago, the House kept the Medicare "reform" bill vote open for over 2 hours, to give DeLay and Hastert enough time to twist enough arms to get the win.
If they have no regard for statutes and laws, what kind of respect do you think they have for something piddling like parliamentary procedure?
|
seshers
(206 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 PM
Response to Original message |
| 32. Cube rat needs the vote count |
in_cog_ni_to
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 PM
Response to Original message |
| 33. I can't take this!!!! What the hell is the count??? |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #33 |
| 35. Frist just changed his vote to NO - who hoo! Got his tail back between |
|
his legs. Happy Holidays!
|
ohio_liberal
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
|
Why would change his vote to no?
|
OmmmSweetOmmm
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 40. Just heard!!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW!!!!! |
tridim
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:39 PM
Response to Original message |
| 34. Frist NO.. Filibuster successful! |
WilliamPitt
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 38. Why did Frist vote no? |
Walt Starr
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 41. By voting on the minority side he keeps the debate open |
|
otherwise, those who vote not to close debate can simply allow the matter to be dropped for now.
|
MallRat
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #41 |
| 46. So by voting NO, Frist keeps the bill from being tabled altogether? n/t |
Walt Starr
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #46 |
| 56. Yup, somebody who votes no has to move to reconsider n/t |
More Than A Feeling
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
|
Only someone voting with the winners can bring up the measure again. As just happened.
|
liberalnurse
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #43 |
| 48. That makes a lot of sense. |
liberalnurse
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #38 |
| 45. He must of cut a deal..... |
|
Thats the only reason....He knew he didn't have enough votes....something is up....look for the sneak attack next.....
|
seafan
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #34 |
| 42. Yes, I think we successfully filibustered this. n/t |
Immad2
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:40 PM
Response to Original message |
| 37. Frist just voted - NO!! |
Immad2
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 47. YES!! Filibuster successful! |
Just Me
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 49. Well, I'll be damned!!! I'm in shock!!! |
Democrat 4 Ever
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #37 |
| 51. Frist has entered a motion for reconsideration. Roll call. Guess |
|
he is now using intimidation. Right now Frist and his flunkies are going to every single repug that voted no and telling them that they will not get any money from the RNC for re-election, that every dirty trick in the book will be used against them, and they are dead to the party so get back in line or we will steamroll right over your ass. This now has the question that millions of people are asking - "Are there any honest and just politicians left in the Republican Party.
Will anyone really change their vote in this process?
|
ohtransplant
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #51 |
| 55. DeWine could change. He's up for reelection in 06 |
|
and could crumble.
That said, they only get to 59 if all three Rs (who voted "No") flip.
Could there be Dems out there considering a switch?
|
Plausible
(386 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:41 PM
Response to Original message |
More Than A Feeling
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM
Response to Original message |
| 50. Did Frist just immediately move to reconsider? |
|
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:44 PM by Heaven and Earth
Is he planning to hold the Senate hostage to get the extra five votes?
|
chiffon
(527 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:45 PM
Response to Original message |
|
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:47 PM by chiffon
woohoo!
:woohoo:
|
chiffon
(527 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:46 PM
Response to Original message |
| 53. 56 ayes 44 nays!! Alrighty now! |
|
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:48 PM by chiffon
woohoo!
:woohoo:
|
WhiteTara
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Wed Dec-21-05 12:51 PM
Response to Original message |
| 54. final vote 56-44 against the bill and cloture |
|
okay...now we're on a roll.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Mon Feb 23rd 2026, 12:02 PM
Response to Original message |