Impeach Bush = President Cheney

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

:scared:

[emulatorloo]

1. Not to worry, Cheney will be in a federal prison before Bush is impeached

He'll be resigning over plamegate, don't worry.

[NV Whino]

2. Impeach Cheney first

Destroy Bushy's base and he collapses (or implodes) of his own accord.

[Doctor_J]

I can think of no better way to head into the 06 and 08 elections

than with Dick being the face of the GOP.

[comradebillyboy]

17. too true

a couple years of big dick in the white house will destroy the republican party. dick for president!

[marylanddem]

3. Don't worry - if Bush goes down Cheney will be soggy milktoast...

n/t

[JuniperLea]

4. I don't think Cheney would last long...

You know he has been involved with everything Chimpy has done. Cheney's hands are just as dirty, if not more so. Bring 'em on and knock 'em down I say!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

5. It's a matched set.

They both need to be impeached at the same time, as they're both complicit in the same crimes.

[Behind the Aegis]

6. Fitz will take care of Cheney. n/t

[paineinthearse]

7. Wrong

Dual-impeachment of * & Cheney = President Hastert.

I just cringe if he gets his tits in a ringer, the next in line is Senator Stevens, then Rice.

[Mr_Spock]

8. All of a sudden Dumbya seems suddenly less impeachable

:rofl:

He might be the best thing to happen to the Dems in a while!!

:rofl:

[madmark]

9. Any basis to dispose of Bush would also dispose of Cheney; BUT

you would then be looking at Pres. Sensenbrenner.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

12. Wouldn't it be President Hastert next?

[madmark]

28. You're right; I mix those two idiots up

[chicagiana]

29. Assuming you had Senate control ...

Assuming you had control of the Senate you simply would refuse to confirm any nomination for VP. True, if the Republicans had a majority in the Senate, (whith a Democratic House) you would probably have to accept another Ford situation and take it to the mat during the next election.

It is VERY true that you need 60 votes to convict. But the House would be able to embarass the hell out of Republican Senators if they stood behind the president after the truth comes out of House Impeachment hearings.


Personally, I find it far more likely to make gains in the Senate than in the House. People overstate the influence of Rush Limbaugh and Next Gingrich in the 1992 "Redpublican Revolution". Republicans had made gains in state houses and managed to tilt Congressional districting in their favor. The Republicans will be VERY hard to knock off in their safe little white worlds where people read their conservative newspapers and watch Faux News.

I really think the Democrats will reverse the trend in the next election. But we have all been wrong before. KKKarl Rove always seems to come out with a fresh game plan and he's ALWAYS effective. And lets not forget that so many districts are now saturated with those goddam Diebold machines who's results are impossible to validate yet seemingly beyond legal challenge. There is a HUGE hurdle that will need to be jumped for Democrats to retake the house in 2006. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only hope left for Democracy in America.

[gratuitous]

10. I'll deal with them one at a time or all at once

Makes no difference to me. Perhaps impeachment and removal of Stupidhead will put a healthy fear of the electorate back into the Republicans. It sure seems to have been missing lately judging from the imperious way they've been governing.

[The2ndWheel]

11. Actually

Impeach Bush + not changing the structures of power(and certainly nobody is saying disband the NSA) = feel good story, but nothing really changes.

As long as the NSA exists, they will spy. I know, laws. Well, if people haven't been paying attention, those laws are always broken eventually. New laws written, then broken and gotten around again and again.

So if people want to impeach Bush, go for it. Have a damn party while doing it. But since nobody is talking about changing the infrastructure, get ready for more abuses of power. The next will be worse than the last. Then that president will be impeached, the NSA will still continue to exist, and then get ready for even worse absues the next time.

[Birthmark]

13. One thing at a time, my friend.

[Rosco T.]

14. Can't they file articles of Impeachment against both at the same time???

[ThomWV]

15. I Couldn't Even Explain How Lame That Duck Would Be

Cheney would be utterly ineffective - which would be just fine.

Whoever ended up in the Oval Office would just be a placeholder, set there to keep his finder on the trigger and wait for a legitimate election.

This country could use a nice 3-year cooling off period if you ask me.

[liberal N proud]

16. Cheney = Heart Attack - wait he doesn't have a heart

Well, I think the pressure would kill him quickly, possibly before a VP could be approved.
Hassert will be exposed in the Ambramof case and that leaves Teddy Stevens unless he has resigned.

Could the stars align in such a way?

[LiberalEsto]

18. When Nixon was president, we had Agnew

and that didn't stop us.

First they indicted Agnew in Maryland, he pleaded no contest, and resigned. Gerald Ford was named VP.

That cleared the field for launching impeachment proceedings against Nixon, who resigned before he could be impeached.

[More Than A Feeling]

19. Spiro Agnew was Nixon's first line of defense too

didn't win him much either.

[Cleita]

20. It doesn't matter.

Cheney won't be there that long. He will either be indicted for Plamegate, or many other things that he has done, or he will have the big heart attack that either will kill him or will render him unable to perform his duties.

It then moves to Hastert who isn't a PNAC guy that I can tell and he will be the lamest of lame ducks regardless until we can replace him in 2008 especially if we take back Congress in 2006.

[chicagiana]

31. You forgot something ...

In order for Articles of Impeachment to be filed the Democrats must control the House of Representatives. If that is the case, Dennis Hastert would not be speaker. Most likely House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi would be elected Speaker.

[Cleita]

33. I get it, but I'm hoping we can get some Republicans on board

before the 2006 election to do this because by 2006, it might be too late to save our democracy.

[Sparkly]

21. You mean he's not president now? nt

[deacon]

22. Cheney is 90% president anyway--it would be a formality change

So, impeach and issue strict new oversight.

This is really about the law and the executive branch, it's not about bush, it's about the future of presidential authority. What happens as a result of the law being honored makes no difference.

[kansasblue]

23. DON'T let that be your excuse! Then every president or...

governor that comes along will just back fill himself with someone worst in the VP or Lt Gov spot and use that to keep him/her from being
impeached.

If you believe he should be impeached... then do it.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

26. Of course

still it's a scary thought. Imagine the commerative Franklin Mint plate with his face alongside Washington and Lincoln

[ddeclue]

24. Impeach Bush and Cheney=President Hastert.

[understandinglife]

25. Not.

Peace.

[seabeyond]

27. i am not afraid of cheney for a lot of reasons. he is already doing pres

work but he gets to do it in a dark hole like a mole. the lite will be shined on him if he is president. he has really said saome fucked up things as vp. that is different and less trouble than when pres so all that will come out again. he has already done illegal so just a matter of time, as lite shines that he too will get his ass in trouble. i really want to know about the energy meeting he had all those years ago. maybe this will come up again and again and again

[FlaGranny]

30. That doesn't bother me much.

Cheney is NOT a very likeable person. He's slick, greasy, and nasty. I don't believe he'd get a lot of cooperation as a lame duck.

[0007]

32. LOL! Man can ya dig Ted (PorkyPig) Stevens?

[rman]

34. so let's impeach him as well

in fact lets impeach the whole gang.

Then put 'm on trial for criminal offenses and put m behind bars.