Bush considering starting up the draft. (Mike Webb Show)

[Cascadian]

Mike Webb has just been talking about it on his show right now. He also mentions that Bush has been quietly considering to bring back draft boards. the draft was mentioned on an obscure government website devoted to the war on terrorism.


http://www.mikewebb.org


I knew it. Bush and his cohorts said they didn't need a draft earlier in this war campaign. I guess they lied again! If anybody can find that particular website, let us know.

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. I will be blunt with you

the Draft can be enacted in a matter of oh, 72 hours max. Bush just
has to sign the executive order and the legislation is ready to go

[Cascadian]

2. That's all we need.

Man. I am truly thinking about my cousin tonight. He is 18 years old and could be conscripted because of this crap!

I will never support this. I would encourage him to run!

John

[Robin Hood]

3. Bernie Ward is talking about it right now.

www.kgoam810.com

[teryang]

8. I can't get the audio

...oh well

[0007]

38. The radio link isn't working

n/t

[neuvocat]

4. If I didn't serve already

and weren't at the age I'm at now I'd haul ass to leave the country. When I served, at least it was to defend the country. Now it might end up being to serve oil companies instead-as slave labor.

[MessiahRp]

5. Just a question...

I turn 26 on the 18th and am a Single Dad... would I qualify for the draft?

Rp

[roguevalley]

6. 26 is safe if I can remember. Its the 18-23 that are most vulnerable

I have three nephews that are draft bait. I don't
think he has the balls to call a draft. That will
bring rioting in the streets. Its one thing to
have a volunteer army where your chances of knowing
a soldier are small but its another to have every
kid you know be draft bait.

PS. Having families and going to school won't be
deferred this time. Count on it.

[Zhade]

11. Rioting? You can BANK on that.

Because I'd be one of the first to get on the streets and yelling!

They do this, they are FINISHED. I don't care if they try full-scale Big Brother lockdown - they will RUE the day they call for a draft. Mark my words on this one.

First they piss off the military. Then the CIA. Finally, the rest of the populace too blind to wake up. When their kids - or they themselves - might DIE IN IRAQ, people will wake up very, very fast.

Vietnam taught us a lot. We know more know. They call a draft, expect cities to be in flames.

[diamond14]

15. No, there were few young men standing up to object Oct.25, 2003

at the DC-anti-war protests...some older Vietnam-era people were carry protest signs about the DRAFT, but no draft age men....

there has been little objection from the actual draftees, in any of the anti-war protests (total lack of participation), or in voting (total lack of participation)...

the bushies watch the anti-war protests carefully...and no doubt, they noticed the lack of resistance from the actual draftees....

[MessiahRp]

43. Forgive me

if this sounds ignorant but I think the majority of the original anti-war protesters did it to try to prevent the war when they felt they might have a voice. Now that Bush has proved that the American citizens do not have a voice, less young people are going to be involved with protests. More likely they are still making their voices heard in different ways such as MoveOn, etc.

Rp

[Malva Zebrina]

48. not ignorant

I have observed the same thing in my little small town. Weekly protests pre-invasion were there in the freezing cold -- and they were getting larger and the signs were getting smarter--and costumes and percussion--after the invasion--no one protested anymore There was a protest in conjunction with the Oct 25 DC and SF protests again, but no more weekly ones--and it is getting cold again--if Bush does the draft, I suspect we will see it again--most of the organizing is done by a group called CONA, and I confess I do not know what that acronym stands for. The Quakers are also involved in the organizing.

[roguevalley]

7. 26 is safe if I can remember. Its the 18-23 that are most vulnerable

I have three nephews that are draft bait. I don't
think he has the balls to call a draft. That will
bring rioting in the streets. Its one thing to
have a volunteer army where your chances of knowing
a soldier are small but its another to have every
kid you know be draft bait.

PS. Having families and going to school won't be
deferred this time. Count on it.

[whirlygigspin]

9. go North, young man

Canada needs you!

I'd love to see Bush and Prime Minister Crouton fight it out
over draft dodgers.

I can just hear the PM "Hower Istory is dat, you no, we won't
send dem back, we har ha free country, and datz dat. Hime very
sorry about dat George, but you no, like when you go to da
Halabama during da Viet-Nam, hitz not hower problem."

[BiggJawn]

16. Canada will send 'em back. Go South.

Bush forced some kind of treaty on them post-9/11 requiring Canada to automatically return "Fleeing Felons", which is how draft resisters will be classified....

and stop by and say "Hi" to our old friend Pocho when you get there...

[MessiahRp]

26. Well on the bright side...

If Bush waits until his re-election and is IN FACT, reelected, I will consider a move before dufus can even consider the draft. Canada may have a recession but it treats it's citizens a lot better than we do.

Rp

[Spazito]

28. Canada is not in a recession, quite the opposite ...

we have a 2.3 billion surplus, still creating jobs. Economic growth rate has slowed but is still growing.

[MessiahRp]

31. I stand corrected

Then everything is rosy in Canada... of course some ignorant pro-American person might dispute that like they scoffed in Bowling for Columbine at how Michael Moore praised Canada...

But screw those hosers eh? :)

Rp

[Spazito]

36. LOL and yep, life is good here!

and Michael Moore is right, we aren't fearful and are friendly!

[leesa]

39. Can we come live with you?

[Spazito]

40. LOL sure, we have lots of space up here but....

bring your woolies!

[MessiahRp]

42. LOL Well...

I live in Northeast Wisconsin so I don't think the temperature difference would be too great. :)

Rp

[Ishoutandscream]

44. Yep, damn right. Canadians are wonderful

I'm a Texan, and always my ideal vacation is to go to Canada. I honeymooned in Toronto (the cleanest big city I have ever seen) and Niagra Falls. I've also traveled through the Atlantic provinces.

What a beautiful, wonderful country you have. And yes, the nicest people I have ever met.

[Malva Zebrina]

49. ditto on that

I travel to the Atlantic provinces from my home state of Maine frequently. I have the deepest respect for the nice citizens of Canada. :toast:

[hang a left]

30. This must be made an election issue if that is when it will be

instituted. I read a poster on another thread say that they would have to do it by Mar 04. Not spewing it as a fact, just stating someone's opinion. THIS MUST BE AN ISSUE!

Having said that, I don't think the draft is for Iraq. I think it is for never ending war all over the planet.

[hang a left]

29. Plus the weather is so much nicer.

[Cascadian]

54. Mexico anybody?

eom


john

[Cascadian]

52. Canada allowed the Vietnam draft dodgers to stay

Thanks to the former prime ministers Pearson and Trudeau, they let them stay. It is hard to say if the next prime will be that generous. I get the funny feeling that Paul Martin may not be too sympathetic but who knows what will happen in the coming year.

John

[HootieMcBoob]

23. probably

are you registered with selective service?

[MessiahRp]

27. I think I am...

Is that the card they send you when you're 18 and tell you you have to fill out and return to them by law? I did that of course I wouldn't have if not for the legal ramifications they claimed I faced if I did not.

Rp

[spotbird]

47. Start taking care of that asthma, now!

And too bad about that hunting accident where you shot yourself in the foot.

Haven't you been feeling severely depressed, even suicidal? Been self-mutlating (no time like the present to start)? How about a little Prozac for that?

Is your neighbor’s 95 year old great-grandfather starting to look sexually attractive to you? Time to act on that impulse.

[tnlefty]

57. LOL - laughing so hard that I started coughing!

Humor on a rather depressing topic.

[Nickie]

19. serve oil companies -as slave labor.

you got that right. Our children should not have to die for Bush and his friends.

[tkmorris]

10. The draft? Really?

Well, remember folks. You can get anything you want at Alice's restaurant.

[Best_man23]

12. DUers, Become Members of your local Draft boards

That way, it will ensure the sons of puke POS repugs also go, and that its not just the poor and minorities who end up conscripted.

Message to Freepers of draft age: When you go for induction, be sure to ask for 11B if you're going into the Army or 0311 if you're headed to the Marines. Don't be like Tom Delay and let someone get in front of you for these coveted military occupation fields.

[IndianaGreen]

13. The "sons of puke POS repugs" will get out of the draft

They will get deferments for college, which their parents can afford, while the children of the working class will get drafted because they can't get a deferment.

I wouldn't collaborate with the war machine, and that includes the draft boards. Your suggestion is akin to having death penalty opponents work in the execution chamber.

[EX-CONservative]

24. What's 11B?

:shrug:

[Noordam]

35. infantry

:evilgrin:

[Skwmom]

14. The draft is coming back.

From the bits and pieces I've been hearing I'd bet my bank account on it. That's why it's so critical that the Dem's put forth their strongest candidate in 2004. Unfortunately, the masses won't stop and think about this until it is too late. :[

[Riptide]

17. I think parents are different today..

As a teacher and a parent, I can tell you that most parents don't think their precious little children should have to sit in detention, much less be drafted.

[diamond14]

20. most parents today cheered 'shock and awe' and think that bush*

is protecting OUR country....most parents have NOT stood up with the anti-war protesters....most parents today actually feel that the military would add some discipline to their uncontrollable teenagers...many parents speak of asking their teenagers to join the military, and would love to have the military force them to join...

most parents today hardly know that there are TWO wars going on...and perpetual war is the focus....most parents today couldn't find Afganistan and Iraq on a world map....

[hang a left]

34. Don't include me in that catagory. I would go before I let either of

my sons. I am a mother!

[HFishbine]

22. Right-O

It's the safe and comfortable who can "afford" to be for the war.

I'd be for the draft if there were no defferments for college or family responsibilities, and if you have a medical condition that precludes combat, you serve as a medic or radio operator.

The only reason this war had/has the support it does is because 95% of America is untouched by it. They sit in their La-z-boys, waving their flags, cheering on their team like it's Monday Night football. Let American's fully share the real brurdens of war and we'll have a big fat reality check.

[hang a left]

37. THat is the only way they should be allowed to institute it,

Absolutely no deferments for college.

[hang a left]

33. damn straight

[Toucano]

18. Is this his "job creation" plan? n/t

[tom_paine]

21. Wow, like, there was no way anyone could have seen that coming!

:puke:

The Busheviks are as predicable as Stalin, Hitler, Saddam, even if they aren't (yet) as brutal and violent.

[dusty64]

25. This would be the end

of the rethug party. Only problem is "Democrats" would support this in Congress giving the "opposition" cover and maybe even giving more outspoken support for this on the corporate media. Sad but true.

[spanone]

32. I will personally drive my son to Canada

[Walt Starr]

41. This is the "gear-up" for a new two front war

I predict that no later than November 15, 2004, we will be invading Iran and Syria. The timing will probably be October 2004 to get everybody ray-rah about electing the chimp.

Draft introduced just days after the election. Empire firmly in place. Clear delineation between the aristocracy and the rabble of the masses.

[teryang]

45. That is a frightening prospect

...I hope it doesn't come about.

[ElementaryPenguin]

50. Dem candidates should now talk nonstop about *'s plan to reinstate draft!

Let the people know that by voting for Bush/Cheney, they will be VOTING FOR THE DRAFT, and for SEVERAL MORE WARS!!! (not to mention, likely a bankrupt Social Security fund and a full-scale depression!!!)

[Cascadian]

56. I hate to say it but...

some Democrats would vote in favor of reinstating the draft. It is just a high inevitability.


Along with those Democrats, they who support the draft should be voted out of office!


John

[Brian Sweat]

46. No way Bush reinstates the draft prior to re-election.

[Cat Atomic]

55. I'm with you.

I almost expect it after the election, but they must know it'd be political suicide to try it before then.

[Malva Zebrina]

51. I will offer up my house as a way station and an underground railroad if

necessary. I am about four hours drive from the Canada border.

[Scott Lee]

53. You are not alone

This could lead to Underground Railroad II.

[bonemachine]

58. Has anyone refused to sign up for SS?

I have, and I've made it almost 5 years so far with nothing but one nasty letter, 3 years ago. Of course, I never leave forwarding addresses, so who know's what other stuff they sent me...