cthrumatrix
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:17 PM
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| Where is Clinton's "outrage"......I don't like this.... |
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Clinton is telling us to "move on". I have a few problems with what he "doesn't say".
1) Why does he pick NOW to add his thoughts in this "one area". There are many areas where this "secretive cabal" has failed to serve us as oppose to the corporations.
2) Why does he not share his concern about the areas that are important : job loss, healthcare issues etc.....
Talk about things that matter to us as citizens....what impacts our lives and how this administration is a "corporate sellout".
I'm not sure how this helps..one bit
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:21 PM
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| 1. clinton talks all the time |
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it's more a matter of what the media picks out to broadcast....
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:24 PM
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| 2. Because he's in bed with Corporate America as deep as Bush |
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Those exclusive golf courses, ya know. You get a lot of networking done there.
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:28 PM
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I can't figure it out either; I feel betrayed. Unless he's doing it to make us angry; to mobilize us and make us fight? I'm grasping at straws here....
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:37 PM
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| 5. You mean you weren't before? |
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Jocelyn Elders, Welfare "reform" (which did nothing for corporate welfare for the needlessly rich companies), NAFTA, the DMCA... I'm sure there are plenty of other incidents, but 4 is more than enough. Mr. Clinton, or at least some of his actions, have left me feeling betrayed for some time. I loved Cocelyn Elders and she was the brightest person and the most capable for Surgeon General and she made people THINK for God's sake, what a savage crime thinking is!!! :eyes: Clinton, in an election year of course, caved into the continual ranting of the pukes and fired her. That act alone was despicable.
It really is amazing, everytime the pukes rant or do something big, the Dems always respond with "me too!" or "can do, sir!". It's like the Dems haven't been standing up for themselves for at least a decade now.
Thank God for Kucinich. But knowing the pukes, he will be killed at just the perfect moment and then some loudmouthed idiot like Rick Khan will waltz on in and give the pukes a bigger victory by turning a mourning ceremony into a fucking political event. (and I'm sure people will blame the Greens for that as well, after all Wellstone was a Green in philosophy and had a Green Bus... :eyes: )
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:42 PM
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this crap is beyond rep/dem. ...corporations and lobbyists are killing us.
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:32 PM
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| 4. Uhh I dunno about that . . . I think maybe we need to get over our |
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Clinton worship. Policy-wise the man rocked.
But he was always too nice as far as I was concerned. Remember when some unknown General says he's not "my commander in chief"? I would have kicked that brass plated piece of shit down to buck private, but no, Clinton just mumbles about how he never even met the guy.
Or when Strom Thurmond threatened him not to set foot on an Army base in South Carolina? I would have had a fucking PARADE on that Army base . . . and then cut its funding in half.
He presided over a rout of Congress in '94, the rise of Limbaugh, the Whitewater witch hunts, and all he did was "business as usual."
When the opposition party declares war on you, you gotta gird up your loins and do some smiting, dude . . . He acted like the President of the United States couldn't ever hurt anybody.
GW clearly is under no misapprehension about that.
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:40 PM
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| 6. Maybe it's because he has money now........... |
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money changes people. Maybe it has changed him. Can't think of any other reason.
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:43 PM
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| 8. BC ... while not as sophisticated as many of the posters on this board ... |
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successfully blocked the only defensive tactic from the Bonehead crew that gained any traction at all, specifically that the hoo-haw was all the results of politics. We know what political firestorms look like having lived through the massive gop assaults on BC who, btw, has an extremely thorough and complete experiential knowledge of exactly how far these fucks will go and most of America knows as well.
BC's mild remarks have served to block that venue of response and give everyone something to point to and say, no ... not political.
But of course, he isn't quite politically sophistocated enough actually know what he's doing and he would no doubt serve the cause with more eficacy if he would take initial data, jump to conclusions and climb out there to the very end of the limb shouting about something that he does not yet have the data to support. :eyes:
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Wed Jul-23-03 07:17 PM
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 please a wait further programin... i mean instructions ;-) peace
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Wed Jul-23-03 06:46 PM
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| 9. The only bright spot I'm seeing is |
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that when the con/neocons talk about it (in agreement), they invariably follow up with, 'Of course it should be investigated and we need to know how it happened'.
That looks like a good place to have them- willing to investigate instead of blocking it.
On a personal level, 'move on' sounds just like 'get over it' and that makes me have CRAAAAAAAAZZZZZEEEEEEEE THOUGHTS! :silly:
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Wed Jul-23-03 07:14 PM
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| 10. Outrage is for talk shows.Winning elections takes a measured approach |
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If we overplay it, I could easily see it becoming a rerun of the 2002 paradigm of pro-Bush or pro-Hussein.
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