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Fri Dec-12-03 10:18 PM
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| anybody beleive their candidate ISN'T the most electable? |
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Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 11:03 PM by Bombtrack
In a general election of course
this exludes Kucinich supporters
I personally think that Edwards has the best ideas and platform, but I first of all don't think he as as good a chance as Clark to win the primary, until I see better polling from him in places other than SC.
And I think a good case can be made that an Arkansas/Louisiana takeback strategy is easier than a an NC/Georgia one, in a general election.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:20 PM
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| 1. I'm pretty sure Dean is the most electable. |
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With Clark and Edwards the only others with a good chance. And yes, I'm a Dean supporter. I think it'd make little sense for one to back someone they didn't find electable in this crucial election.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:22 PM
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| 2. and I asked just the opposite |
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First of all I think your opinion is a rediculous one, and second I don't need people clogging up this thread with unneeded responses
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:50 PM
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I was just answering your question- No, I don't think there is a candidate that is more electable than mine. And what opinion do you think is ridiculous- that it doesn't make sense to support candidates that isn't the most electable, or that Dean is the most electable? From your history I imagine its the second one.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:27 PM
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| 3. Me. I think Clark is more electable than my guy, Dean. |
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But Clark is an absolute unknown to me. He has no record, and I instrinsically distrust military folks. I'm willing to work my considerable ass off to increase Dean's electability.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:32 PM
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| 4. at least you admit your prejuduce |
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I think it's unrelentingly wrong but I don't know if I'd be able to change your mind
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:33 PM
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I think Dean and Clark are more electable than my guy, Kerry.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:43 PM
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| 6. I am looking at a Dean/Clark ticket. I feel it's a winner. |
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They complement each other so well.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:45 PM
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| 7. Clark might be more electable |
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then Kerry. The General will be hard for freepers to beat up on and he's got that Southern thang going on. But Kerry has domestic experience that Clark gets a little hesitant on at times. So I don't know.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:49 PM
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| 9. you don't trust American generals? And you trust politicians instead? |
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General Wesley Clark, you can't trust him? That is the oddest thing I have ever heard. How do you trust politicians over NATO supreme allied commanders?
Clark or Kerry in '04
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:25 PM
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This is to me? Or it got under the wrong name? I trust Clark, didn't say I didn't.
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:47 PM
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| 8. Why does it exclude DK supporters? |
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Fri Dec-12-03 10:49 PM
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| 10. "there" should be "their" |
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There is still time to correct it.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:19 PM
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| 11. Actually, Dean Is the Only Electable Democrat |
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We've only now witnessed what GOP stooges will do, running countless TV ads against the eventual Democratic nominee.
Dean stands alone as the only Democrat with the funding and without spending cap restrictions in being able to fight the air war.
I think that's huge. As this latest Osama Bin Laden ad demonstrates so well.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:22 PM
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| 12. I don't buy this argument |
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I'm holding all campaign contributions until a candidate is chosen. If this is your worry, I encourage you to do the same. Also, there must be some way for Dean to slush his money into someone else's campaign if he loses the nomination.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:56 PM
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There are 527s (independent committees), to be sure, but there are big problems countering the Bush ad blitz when handicapped by spending limits. For one thing, the 527s can't coordinate.
Plus it's clear the general election campaign has already begun, at least from Bush's perspective.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:29 PM
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| 15. Better now, than later |
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This is minor compared to what they do next year. Somebody earlier jokingly mentioned an ad with Dean taking Osama and Saddam skiing. I'm sure you saw the startribune letter. And the post about Dean's tax hikes and socialist Vermont. We've been trying to tell you Dean has ALOT of problems in the general election. If you're mad about this, just wait until next year. If he can figure out how to put up a real opposition to all of this, then maybe he's the best candidate.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:54 PM
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| 17. That's the point. He HAS been able to put up a real opposition to all of |
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that. Name one attack that has seriously hurt Dean? Which of the dozens of "campaign ending mistakes" have ended his campaign? He gets attacked by the RNC in an ad, bam- he raises $500,000 to run an ad to counter it. He doesn't let things go by without taking them on.
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Sat Dec-13-03 12:01 AM
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Barely. The ads being putting up now are NOTHING compared with what will happen next year. Neither has the so-called "bashing". The only reason Dean has gotten as far as he has is his willingness to lie and say any dirty thing that Trippi thinks will sell. The others have actually been quite restrained considering, knowing that you just can't scorch the entire Democratic Party and expect to win next year.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:58 PM
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If he can figure out how to put up a real opposition to all of this, then maybe he's the best candidate.
Tons of crap thrown at him, and he keeps climbing in the polls and building momentum. The signs are excellent.
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Sat Dec-13-03 12:02 AM
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| 21. The tons are just starting |
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What he's had so far are just pebbles.
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Fri Dec-12-03 11:26 PM
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| 14. Since I have no candidate at this time... does that qualify? "No |
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Edited on Fri Dec-12-03 11:26 PM by salin
candidate".. better not be the option that is the most electable! ;-)
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Sat Dec-13-03 08:27 AM
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| 23. I'm confused. Your statement about Edwards says you |
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don't think he can beat Clark in the primary, but you're asking about the general.
To answer about the general we have to assume our candidate wins the primary. So if Edwards did, do you think he's the most electable in the general?
I have 3 candidates, with Kerry being my top. This is how I see electability in the general:
Clark Kerry Edwards Gephardt Lieberman Dean Sharpton Kucinich Mosely-Braun
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