You Know What Sucks About "Lord Of The Rings" ...

[THUNDER HANDS]

The fact that I liked the first two movies so much, right after I saw the second film I went out and read all the books.

Now I know how the story ends.

:(

And I don't know if I'm gonna enjoy the movie as much, now.

Especially considering I know what the "light" thingy is gonna be used for. What happens to Gollum, Frodo, Sam, the Shire, Aragon, ect, ect.

I really wished I hadn't read the book and just waited until the movie comes out.

BTW, if anyone wants to know what happens in the "Return of the King" just ask. I feel like spoiling a few storylines for folks who can't wait and haven't read the books yet.

[TlalocW]

1. Pshaw...

You should have read the books first so that you wouldn't have the movies dictated to you how the characters all look, act, wear, etc.

TlalocW

[THUNDER HANDS]

2. I couldn't have

I had never heard of the books until the movie came out.

[Caution]

3. I read the books about 20 times before i saw the movies

And I am still really enjoying the movies. You'll still have fun.

[4_Legs_Good]

5. Grumble grumble grumble

I disliked the movies quite a lot. Nobody but nobody has the right to Change Tolkien's dialogue!

No, I guess they're good, but they could have been oh so much better if they just would have stuck to the storyline. I think FotR was really quite decent, but TTT was gawd awful. Peter Jackson is great with the effects but a piss poor director IMO. (that should get some more flames coming my way)

That said, I'm sure I'll pick up the TTT DVD today.

david

Kucinich 2004

[goobergunch]

18. Or Tolkien's plot

Faramir should sue Jackson for libel IMHO.

[MUAD_DIB]

4. Don't mention the flying saucers or

you'll be banned for life!

If you liked the LOTR then you should try the Silmarillion.

[Pillowbiter]

6. The funny thing is

around the time before the first movie came out I was walking through the book section of Wal-Mart (damn Star Wars exclusives) when I overheard someone complaining about how movies are ruined because the the book is released before the movie is released, spoiling the story...as she was pointing to a copy of the Fellowship of the Ring.

Of course she thought I was the freak as I broke mid-stride, stopping to look at her in total amazement at her ignorance.

PB

[Mikimouse]

7. Quick general question-SciFi

Yeah, I know this is a LotR thread, but I have to ask, after reading the replies to the original posting. Anyone here think that the Timothy Zahn follow-up Star Wars trilogy (Heir to the Empire; Dark Force Rising; The Final Command) should have been the next set of Star Wars movies? Just a question. I thought that Zahn's follow-up was terrific and was really sorry that it was not used as the basis for the new series of shows.:hippie:

[Kamika]

9. yeah sure

The zahn series first then the dark empire saga..

I used to be a mega star wars geek now i switched to star trek since lucas totally ruined sw.


Btw about the ring trilogy.. i managed to read the hobbit and book 1 before movie 1, read book 2 before movie 2 but i JUST cant get through book3 i gave up and read 3 star trek books instead..

Ill just see the movie and then read the book with images from the movie in my mind.. it helps ALOT

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. Yes - great books!

Love admiral thrawn. And loved his reappearance later, around book 30 or something. Unless book 30, which I can't remember now, was actually pre-post-Star Wars?

That was a number of years ago, so I don't remember everything about where that book 30 or whatever fits in, but I loved those three books you mentioned, and yes, they would make great movies.

[Kamika]

11. they were like 11 years after the first thrawn trilogy

Dont know more though didnt read those two.

Splinter of the past and visions of the future or something like that heh..

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. whew - that's what I was thinking

Glad to know the memory isn't entirely shot...

Thrawn is such a great character.

[shimmergal]

23. Yes.

Haven't seen the second-set movies, but I really liked Zahn's trilogy and would like to have seen it on screen.

[LuLu550]

8. read the books

a billion times long long ago and I'm glad I didn't re-read them before I saw the movies or I might have nit-picked the details. But I really liked the movies because they were true to my memories of the book.
LuLu

[newyawker99]

22. Congrats LuLu550!! 200 posts

:toast:

[kixot]

12. The first one stunk, IMO

I haven't gotten to see TTT yet but my wife and I were not impressed withthe first one. The thing is, although the novels are great novels, the story leaves much to be desired in regards to a big screen plot. Tolkien was not writing a screenplay, he was writing a fantasy novel. Consequently, the story makes for a long-winded, vacillating plot line that can lose the viewers interest and never draw us into actually caring about any of it. The Hobbit, luckily, is different and I would love to see a revised treatment of that, but LOTR, IMHO, has no business on the big screen, not by what I've seen of FOTR.

That given, we all knew the movies were going to be instant successes simply by the fact that there are so many fans of the series who would drool all over their opening night tickets and jizz their silk boxers the moment the opening credits finished. Plus, the films were so cartoonishly budgeted and filmed in parallel so there's no arguing that there was going to be loads of eye candy, enough to cover up the flimsy plot treatment.

All in all, I will end up with a boxed set just because it is LOTR, the same reason many of us may, but I stand firm in saying the films were not as hot as they were hyped.

[Michael Daniels]

13. My strategy for LOTR was going to be.....

See a movie and then read the equivalent book.

That way, I'd see the movie without any preconceived notions of how things should look.

So I see the first movie and then start reading the Hobbit (for establishing the background) followed by Fellowship of the Ring. Well, by about 1/2 way through FOTR I was so hooked that I bought the other two and ripped through them before TTT came out last year.

Anyway, it turned out not to take away from any enjoyment of watching the second film and I think I enjoyed it a bit more because I could follow the storyline a bit better having read the books.

[WilliamPitt]

14. I couldn't disagree more

I saw the first movie, and sprinted out to read the books. That has added depth and breadth to my understanding of the films, and has increased my appreciation by orders of magnitude.

[Kenneth ken]

15. you know how the book ends

you don't know how the movie will end. I would expect it to be close, but the films haven't followed the books completely, so until
we see it, we won't really know how the movie ends. As near as I could tell from TTT, Arwen went into the west, so something will have to change there to fit her back in to the bookish ending.

The books were/are great. The movies so far, have been enjoyable for me, but it's a tough story for a film maker to bring to the screen.
He ought to have made a better effort to stick with the story as written.

The biggest pity is his general lack of respect for the dwarves as filtered through the character of Gimli. Most every 'comic' scene in the films mocks Gimli and by association, the dwarves as a race.

[geniph]

17. I re-read it every year

and the Silmarillion too. I know how they end. So what? I know how Beethoven's Fifth ends, too, but that doesn't prevent my enjoyment of listening to it.

[sonias]

19. No Magic Rat that is what is good about LoTR

You have just begun the journey my friend. No matter how many times you watch, read or think about the stories they never end and you can get just as much enjoyment from them. I've been thrilled with the movies and the adaptations from the books. Jackson has done a great job in capturing the story and yet presenting it perfectly in his medium. Each one has joys to behold. After each movie I have reread the books too, and find I enjoy them even more, since the movie characters are now the faces I see when I read the books. For me one just feeds the other. I love that these movies are getting people to read again. What a magnificent story to have captured our hearts once again.


Besides that I hear that there are great visual surprises in Return of the King that I can't wait for. No matter that I know the story, I look forward to Jackson's screen magic.

Sonia

[TheBigGuy]

20. Tolkein had true gift for geogrpahical description & imagination.

And I think the movies where more or less faithfull to that.

I did think the Shire and Bree where a bit more "european/medieval" in my minds eye (i was thinking of some places in Germany that iv'e been).

But they did a great job with Weathertop and the scene w. the Nazgul getting washed away near Rivendell. And esp on Caradrahs (sp?) and in Moria.

Rohan was pretty good too.

[MissMarple]

21. As my son said after reading "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas",

Whoa, there's a whole lot more in the book. And he was genuinely surprised, bless his little heart.

[zbdent]

24. Warning - Bible spoiler!

Jesus comes back after dying!

(now mind you, some actually regard this as a work of fiction . . .