So overwhelmed by hate for *bush that I am going to lose many old

[efhmc]

Houston friends. They are the old poppa bush's buddies and always bring him up in conversation (just talked to one friend and he told me how Bush the elder intervened in their son's behalf in a military matter). These are people I have known for 20-30 years and yet I despise that little pipsqueak pretend pres so damn much that I am considering cutting my ties to all my friends of many years in Houston. It is hard but these folks cannot see or if they do they choose not to see the evil that is bush. Unless you have been there and been part of this society, it is hard to understand. I wrote one couple that I would not be able to visit without freaking out about that horrible critter called bush. They said that they would rely on my good manners not to talk politics. Well my nice southern upbringing saw this challenge for what it was and I stayed away. The bushes, bringing folks together again and again. I will not conpromise. I guess that I will just not be visiting until after the election. EEEEEEEEEEEEEK, everything that freak touches turns to slime even frinedships of over 30 years.

[TroubleMan]

1. He's the great uniter

nt

[efhmc]

2. Yeah, he unites rich people without consciences.

[childslibrarian]

3. I am from the south and I understand your pain

Sometimes, when you can't change someone's mind it is just best to stay away. They know how you feel. They are thinking about it. But if you force the situation they will back off..

[efhmc]

6. Ah, the subtlety. But sometimes I just want to scream and beat my chest

and be really, really rude and make a STATEMENT!!

[rasputin1952]

14. Then just do it...I do it all the time...

Every time I hear someone that defends bush, the first thing out of my mouth is, "Name me one thing bush has done that benefitted the nation". Mouths flop, but NOTHING comes out...:)

[efhmc]

16. Good for you. Do you think this makes a difference to those around you

or is it just a pure truth that you must speak, or perhaps both?

[rasputin1952]

32. Both, I am in Nebraska, and I've gotten 14 people to change from...

R to Independent. I could not talk any into being D, but, like I said, this is NE...:)

The truth is powerful, it can be overlooked or shoved to the side, but it cannot be destroyed. For about the last 8 months, I have not heard one person in NE defend bush, nary a one, whereas a year ago, everyone thought this pinhead could walk on water. To me, the silence is very telling...:)

They may vote by rote here, but they will be standing in a bucket of pig slop when they vote for the Village Idiot again, and they all know it.

[dogtag]

4. I feel your pain....

It can be painful to cut ties, but it's just too important this time to pretend that politics don't matter. Maybe these are also 'the times that try men's souls?'

“The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot may, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.” - Thomas Paine

OK, I'll go back to being silly now.

[efhmc]

7. But these are people that were with me during the good and the bad

times (many of the bad economic times that were created by baby bush) and it is hard to discard these friendships because they are blinded by the creeps that are bush.

[searchingforlight]

5. I too have stopped interacting with or have avoided contacting friends

that I know are Bushies. I have no respect for their intellect and know that I would be unable to keep my mouth shut.

I do stay close to my sister (a fundie repub) but she worships Bush and we CANNOT talk about politics. Every so often she says, "We care about the same things." I just smile or say "umhum" while all the time I am thinking we couldn't be farther apart.

[efhmc]

9. I really think that the War Between the States was the last time we were

this divided.

[searchingforlight]

11. I think you are right and those divisions lasted for generations.

I remember growing up in areas where "Yankee" and "Confederate" were curse words still.

The two Americas theme has more than one meaning. I can see that rifts have formed that will never be healed. We are truly a house divided.

[efhmc]

13. Listen , where I grew up Damn and Yankee always went together and

that was the only time it was okay to use that word in polite society. Too bad, greed puts us into the clutches of the worse Yankee carpetbaggers of all times, the bushes.

[librechik]

8. maybe you don't "hate" him, maybe you're just angry

who wouldn't be at a moron who seizes power and then gets us into the worst imaginable trouble.

When we say "hate" instead of anger, we are playing into the hands of the RW who want to label us as haters. Most are not.

[efhmc]

10. Ah, an interesting concept. I was actually taught that one never used

the word hate toward another human being, that it was not a humane or Christ like thing to do. Yet in so many ways bush and his horrible evil way of dealing with our lives makes that word so apropos.

[Cha]

20. What's not to hate about someone(the head puppet)

who wants to destroy the Country you call home?

[efhmc]

22. Didn't say that I didn't hate them because I do and do not mind saying

so but was taught that one was not suppose to ever express hatred toward another human if one tried to follow the teachings of Christ, whose teachings were about love for all people. (And no matter what the right-wing so called Christians believe that is what Christ preached: love for all no matter what, race, sex, gender, religion, nationality, lifestyle, etc. ALL PEOPLE.)

[Cha]

19. Yeah, we wouldn't want to be like

the Clinton Haters!

[efhmc]

30. Actually, I can understand those that hate (envy) Clinton for his

abilities. They see themselves and their small, dumb leaders for what they are and they are absolutely freaked out by that much intelligence and talent.

[otohara]

12. I Won't Waste My Time - Happily Dumped

my old friend of 30 years - I can't imagine what possesed her to vote for Bush - I figure she's been brainwashed by her 3rd husband, a die-hard-thug - and now living in the south.

When she had those "professional glamour portraits" taken, I knew she was in trouble. Yick - I never thought I'd see my old hippie girfriend dressed up like a republican in some dumb ass pose.

[efhmc]

15. Well, that is a sad example of a woman without self esteem. She

probably (and I am taking a guess here)is someone that always looks for a man to make up her mind for her, no matter how big or little the concept. I feel that women like this really need all the help we can give them. They have little or no internal strength to see them through life.

[cally]

17. My advice is to

say how you feel but try to not end the friendships. I think all of us need to tell them how bad * is and hope they listen. We have to figure out how to unite this country after Kerry is President.

[efhmc]

18. I have friends with this one couple since our now 33 years old

daughters were 2 so I guess that I will just not be available for a while until Kerry wins. They keep trying to make contact but I REALLY cannot physically be around anyone now who LIKES bush!!! I become violent and ill or violently ill.

[cally]

25. I do also

Just ignore them for 10 weeks and then ask them to a celebration party on November 5. :-)

[efhmc]

28. Good idea. The best of both worlds. Avoidance and celebration.

[GOPisEvil]

21. Yeah...a real uniter he is...

Pitting family against family and friend against friend. It does sound like the war of northern aggression doesn't it? ;-)

[efhmc]

24. Do you think that love of ones fellow humans is a concept that this

MAD MAN has ever considered? I really wonder if he has ever read the New Testament (sans Paul, a RW nut it there ever was one.)

[GOPisEvil]

26. He does not possess true compassion for his fellow humans.

If he did, no way would he have started an unjust war, or any of the other evil things he's done.

[efhmc]

29. He truly seems to be a person without empathy or sympathy. I do not

know if this is inbred or is a result of bad upbringing. I think he has all the instincts of a mass murderer, just not the drive. Unhappily, his administration has provided that for him.

[lapfog_1]

23. One of my best friends

is a true dittohead. Even after his wife got laid off from her
job after training her Indian replacement (who they flew over for
four weeks just to pick her brains). He is just brainwashed.
Can't hold a political conversations with me anymore. So we just
avoid politics... but I don't think I'm invited to Thanksgiving
this year. He is a really good guy, it's just so sad that he
has had way too much coolaid.

[efhmc]

27. Well, you are a good friend. What can one do but just decide to

disagree or in my case just stay away, which is not so hard since I now live about 4 hours from Houston.

[carpetbagger]

31. Bush I ain't Bush II

If you could imagine Bush II putting David Souter on the Supreme Court, assembling a coalition to fight a war, raising taxes when the treasury goes broke, creating national parks and establishing a no-net-wetlands-loss policy, then you are not in touch with reality.

Bush was a liar, a demogogue, and a coddler of tyrants, but don't compare Bush I with Bush II. Not the same.

If you need more fortitude, listen to Barack Obama's speech at the convention. "Divided America" is Karl Rove's dream. Don't take him up on it.

[samplegirl]

33. Some call him the Great Uniter!

I know the feeling........friends losing friends. People that vote
for Bush deserve what he gives. (God forbid) Far beyond a tax cut.
These people who call themselves friends would rather get a tax cut
even if it means sending innocent young people off to war. Tells me
what kind of people they truly are.