Soooo, How Many Tattered, Faded, Torn Flags In YOUR Neighborhood Today?

[matcom]

walking to work this morning, noticing more "flags" out than normal. probably walked by 30 on my 1/2 mile "commute". not one. NOT A ONE was new, clean and well kept.

tattered.
torn.
faded.
shabby.

f*ckin' "patriots" :grr:

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. the ones in my neighborhood are in pretty good condition

and fortunately there aren't a lot. I did see one SUV the other day with no fewer than three flags sticking up out of it, plus a couple of flag decals plastered into the windows. My "Regime Change Begins at Home" bumper sticker was a nice contrast.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. But, But, But, But, But!!!

They's BIIIIIIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZEEEEEEEEE!!! :eyes:

I am sure that a representative number of them agree with the letter writer in yesterday's NYTimes and keep their Americanism bright, shiny and well-laundered by not criticizing Chimpy.

A person has to know what really matters, ya' know?

[mrbill]

3. my small town flag report.

the neighbors put a flag pole and are flying a new flag. They are violating the flag code by leaving it out at night unlighted.

noticing more flags on car antennas.

lots of faded yellow ribbons on trees.

[jmm]

11. Some highlights from the forgotten flag code.

http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/flagcode.html

.....
(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(e) The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
.....
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
.....
(k) The Flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
.....

[jmm]

12. Accidentally posted twice. n/t

[LadyChaos1138]

22. the only flag in my neighborhood

is the confederate flag plastered to some rednecks truck.

[phillybri]

4. Isn't that the most insane thing???

I love my country and my flag, BUT I leave it out all day and night until it's so worn it looks like the colors are ORANGE, YELLOW, and PURPLE!!!

[Tyler Durden]

5. All of them.

Goes along with the ideals of humanity.

Philosophy change, anyone?

[Enraged_Ape]

6. Take it Seriously or Take it Down

I want to start a local campaign against this kind of crap. Nothing burns me up more than some fascist fuck impugning MY patriotism while sporting a tattered, road-grime and grease-stained flag hanging from his antenna. But I don't want to look like some sort of obsessed nut. (I am an obsessed nut, but at least I don't want to look like one.)

I fly my flag (a Bennington flag) on holidays and take it down at dusk and in inclement weather. It's as minty fresh as the day I bought it.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

7. People get pissed when people burn them...

but they can fly them tattered and dirty? That's just as disrespectful as if you're burning them in protest. If people still had common sense, I think I'd probably fall down. lol
Duckie

[The Backlash Cometh]

8. Easy there Matcom.

My hubbie hung a flag out the week after he learned that he lost his nephew on September 11th. The flag now is faded in some parts, mildewed in others, but it won't come down. That particular flag has some meaning to him and discarding it just because it offends the neighbors, is not an option.

[matcom]

9. take it down and display it inside

it is disrespectful

and i am sorry for your loss

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. People grieve in their own way.

I don't think you have a right to decide for them. Not in this case. It is, afterall, a free country. And if you're willing to defend someone's right to burn the flag, then I find it a tremendous hypocrisy that you can't respect if someone develops a special attachment to one flag, over all the others.

[matcom]

18. how do you know my position on flag burning?

don't think i have ever stated it.

btw, do you know what the proper thing to do with a flag in your condition?

burn it.

sorry. its still disrespectful.

[The Backlash Cometh]

19. Now that you bring up the subject:

Flag burning is a freedom of speech issue which most liberals support. If you're not a liberal, then my apologies for the assumption made. But I see the two issues related. And btw, I'm not a liberal, but I do support flag burning as a form of free speech. Pesonally, I think the act is self-defeating in persuading others to your political point of view, but, that's how I interpret the constitution.

And you're being disingenious in bringing up flag burning in this discussion to resolve our personal differences because it resolves your pet peeve, but it doesn't really address the real issue -- and that issue is allowing someone the personal freedom to resolve his own grief in his own way, especially when it's being done on his own property.

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. Sorry to hear about that

It must have been, and remain, horrific. A terrible loss. Perhaps you and he should take the flag in and have it folded and mounted in a viewing case before it gets too tattered.

Today might be a good day to do that in a little ceremony since it is the anniversary. Otherwise the flag might be in tatters by next year.

Just a thought.

Cronus

[The Backlash Cometh]

16. I'm sure the day will come

when he will do just that, on his own. But that's not a decision that you have any right to make for him.

[RPM]

23. sorry but....

It's a decision that has already been made for him - it is the proper protocol. Do you let him wear sweatpants out to a fancy restaurant???? Time to salvage some dignity and bring that flag down.

[tsipple]

10. Back of Semi on I-80 in Central Illinois

Brilliant trucker tied one corner to a loading handle on the back of the truck, with the remaining two thirds of the flag flopping around in the breeze, sucking on exhaust fumes and looking predictably ratty.

I was not impressed.

It is the Bush economy, though, and folks have to save every last penny to make ends not-quite-meet. Even if it means some tattered flags I guess.

[Liberal Veteran]

14. If that stupid flag desecration ammendment ever passes, I intend to...

...have a great deal of fun informing the police of these blatant flag desecrators who leave tattered, threadbare, and faded flags on display on their homes and vehicles.

[underpants]

17. "f*ckin' 'patriots'" ??? You are blaming this on Tom Brady too?

maybe if Lawyer Malloy was still there this wouldn't have happened.

I haven't noticed to tell you the truth.

[ronnykmarshall]

20. Saw one the other day

It was on a car, it was torn and ratty looking. Oh yeah and there was also a Bush 04 sticker on the bumper.

[Twenty3]

21. We've been watching one for days

at work.

It's flying over the house across the street. The flagpole has one of those eagle thingies on the top, and a corner of the flag has become tangled in the eagle.

So when the wind blows, it looks for all the world like the eagle has got ahold of it like a pit-bull and is giving it a real thrashing, like, ROWWWR! We've been tripping on the symbolism, and it seems we all have our own idea of what it means.

Today it's down. Guess they finally noticed.