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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:46 AM Original message |
Does belief create reality? |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. I believe that, as Wayne Dyer suggests, we can align ourselves with the |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I don't beleive so |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How could it make you unreal? All I'm saying is that we have the choice |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Yup. Either live in "Scare City" or do the "a bun dance." |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Yeah, that gives me |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. yeah in other words |
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Cadence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
73. If you're not your thoughts, what are you? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Great question. |
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rwenos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 01:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, It's Possible |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I fight it too. |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. I don't know you guys, |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Amen to that. |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I don't know if this |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Well sure, we were (just not quite enough of us, LOL)... |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Well Ron |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I hear ya. And it truly DOES seem like us against them. I have never |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Amen and namasté! |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Ron |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Yeah, and it takes a lot of time to get it right (or at least it does for |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. I agree :) |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Yes, it is very hard, isn't it? It's just like diplomacy is much harder |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Appealing to the basest instincts of men always works. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
50. I love you |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I love you, too. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm sorry! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. We're often far tougher on ourselves than anyone else could be. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. And you needn't be sorry, Redqueen, 'cause my sadness is also |
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progmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. sometimes |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Reality |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. We make choices everyday |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
25. Wow. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
28. Yes, I'm a member of "Control Freaks Anonymous" |
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progmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Yes - exactly! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
14. Ever been in "the zone"?? |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yes. I enjoyed reading your example. I think "the zone" is love, and our |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Ahhh... you DO know. |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
70. I have been in that "zone" on several occasions... |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I have without really knowing it. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Well, you have everything it takes. (That's an article of faith for me.) |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Okay |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Well, in a (Tahiti)Nutshell ... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 02:27 AM Response to Original message |
17. It goes both ways. Your reality can become want you want to believe, |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Sometimes the 'reality' that we discover ... |
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Baja Margie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Is this like |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:06 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. (Hmmm...) Well, the point being originally addressed ... |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. You ARE famous, TahitiNut. On this thread and in my head. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:53 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Thank you, my brother. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Thanks for your message and for your multimedia creation.... |
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McKenzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
31. Possunt quia posse videntur |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
33. I believe that collective belief shapes reality |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
35. 'bushwentawol': Thank you for one of the most substantive threads ... |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. TahitiNut , thank you for your kind words |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. (Great segue!) ... "It's In Every One Of Us" |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. That is so cool. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. Life is what we make of it. Or so I've been told. A pity then, that |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. I'm convinced of it. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
39. The GOP/Religious Right is a classic example of this being true... |
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twenty2strings (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
42. Belief helps one stay focused...even if it is wrong... |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
46. what crowley said |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yes, but perhaps becoming a writer or actor was simply not to be for |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Yes. It's also co-created by |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. And the most important part of the process is that |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Well ... |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I've spent too much of my life in this |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #60 |
82. if I'm open to outcome... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. And if you're not open to outcome, |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
47. If belief created reality, I'd have won the lottery hundreds of times. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. You didn't believe strongly enough :) Don't forget the millions |
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goodboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. you're right...no more mega-millions for me...it's pick 3 until I win, |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Lotsa luck! |
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Mike Niendorff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
51. nooooo ... |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
74. Be careful what you wish for. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
62. Thoughts are things. |
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Digit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:39 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. I can't tell you how many times I have wanted to post that. |
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indigobusiness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 11:16 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. There is proof |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #62 |
83. since I actually have a degree in physics |
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Merrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. See: The Holographic Universe |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-15-04 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
69. I think so. |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:35 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Oh yes, luck plays a part. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 12:53 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You have to focus your intent (not really desire), and then detach from |
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Wapsie B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:26 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. How can you differentiate between |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Wow, what a good question!! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Better still ... |
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Old Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
80. what we think of as reality is the survival instinct |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
85. thoughts create reality...Power of Intentions...that's why it is important |
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the Princess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
86. *Reality* is just a concept |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
87. Kant put it best, when disproving ontological statements |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Nor is it untrue. IOW, saying it neither makes it so or not so ... |
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WMliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. well, I take it that extra step |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-16-04 05:07 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. (yummy!) I love the Anselm/Kant/Descartes/Hegel mud-wrestling. |
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