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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:33 PM Original message |
Is it cruel to take Christmas away from kids as punishment? |
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Rising Phoenix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. being a kid at heart... |
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LaraMN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe consider taking away ONE gift for each day they mess up? |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. I like this idea. |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do it , man |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think you should equate Christmas with obedience. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Obedience? No. But doesn't have a list of the naughty kids? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. You can't back down! You must retain your credibility! |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Well, all I know is that a friend of mine had a sister that |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. I always thought that was the neat thing about giving my kids |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
5. Go for it! But I might do it slightly differently. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. do they still believe in Santa? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. No way. You have to talk about midnight negotiations with Santa failing. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. ooooo then, the next day |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
77. on man, Matcom |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. ROFLOL! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. No. |
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lakemonster11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:11 AM Response to Reply #13 |
119. My brother and I are in our twenties |
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bertha katzenengel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
135. then take away the "Santa" present. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think it is cruel! I mean isn't there some other way? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. he could cut off a finger each |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yeah. A great one. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. she won't be a teenager for ever! |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Oh. Dear. God. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. You keep thinking that!! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Do you have any suggestions? |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. I don't have children yet, so I may not be the best judge here. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I would have been devastated too, but I'd have learned a hell of lesson. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
123. I agree, I don't think the punishment fits the crime |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. If the two weeks is over now, don't expect any imporovement in... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. One warning: prepare for a really shitty Xmas day. Crying, tantrums, etc. |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
21. Well, certainly you need to back up your words |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. Are you religious? |
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miss_american_pie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
24. Gently stepping in here |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. The thing is, they used to clean up after themselves. |
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miss_american_pie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. I have a friend whose parents made her stand with her arms out |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. Ok. REAL Suggestion Here! |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Now, surprisingly, that is a great suggestion. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. you're surprised? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. I just might. She is getting a tad mouthy. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. i like them 'mouthy' |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Well, I walked right into that one, didn't I? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. you always do sweetie |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. Hot wheels are cheap and don't need insurance. |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. my dad did that to me |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. No. It has to be delayed enough to see if the message of guilt + shame... |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
54. I would delay it until epiphany (Jan. 6, BTW) |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Ah, yes. We're Catholic and celebrate Epiphany anyway. |
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kick-ass-bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. Oh YES! |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. my one good idea for the year |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
72. Hey, I LIKE that idea! |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. every now and then i come up with one |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. My opinion... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. My wife agreed, she just didn't think it would come to this. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yes, it is... |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
29. Sorry, but let's be honest--they didn't just start this behavior overnight |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
81. No flames here, but I'll admit that we're not strict parents. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
95. Okay, stepping in here as |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
129. Don't write this off as a natural thing due to puberty |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. My daughter? Depressed? Not a bats chance in h***! |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. Yes, it's cruel. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I had to stop fighting with my daughter about her room. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
80. I always think one should just shut the door when they get |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. My daughters room always has ants in it now. |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
100. Things are out of control? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
35. You can't go back on your word. |
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jus_the_facts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
41. My opinion...shouldn't have ever lead 'em to believe in the insanity... |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. Okay, here's my $0.02 (converted from Canadian dollars) |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Oops! |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Drat Mrs Grumpy... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Actually, yours is a very good idea! |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
82. nice one cat! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
87. We don't have our tree up yet, but I have an EXCELLENT variation. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. Obivously they didn't get that way overnight |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Which underscores the need for this family to change direction. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I agree |
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malta blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
44. I say give them lumps of coal and one gift each |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
45. You can't really back down now. |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. You CAN back down...and you should |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
124. Agreed -- changing tack is not "backing down" |
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China_cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Doesn't Santa leave coal for the naughty? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. Nicole, my daughter, says that's cruel...and she would know. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Very well put Nicole!! |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Note how she says they still fight "all the time".... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. It would almost be abnormal if they didn't. I remember |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Right after she typed that she got into a fight with her brother over... |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Haha! Typical siblings!! |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
89. *sigh* Well put. |
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miss_american_pie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
108. Ah, there's your way out of your threat |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
114. I cannot answer for her and she's sleeping but I'll show this to her |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. You still have a chance to save face, though - Christmas is still |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
57. First ...you asked them to behave for two weeks??? |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
62. Let's just say I hope you like retirement homes |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
91. ROFL! Only the ones with cute nurses! |
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Divameow77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
65. Let them open their presents |
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lakemonster11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
120. That's brilliant. |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
66. Yes |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
67. Some thoughts... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
78. You made the decision when you laid down the ultamatum |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
125. He doesn't have to follow through |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #125 |
138. I disagree |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
83. No. Do not do it. You are expecting children to behave as adults.... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. I respectfully disagree. |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:04 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Sorry to disagree with you, but ruining the whole family's christmas... |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
86. My opinion is that it's a lot of work being a parent |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. It's important to emphasize that you have to be SPECIFIC with kids |
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Maddy McCall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #94 |
101. EXACTLY. |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. LOL...that sounds like my roommate right now. |
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Ariana Celeste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
88. This is what my mom did to me and my siblings. |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I hurt my mom one Christmas too, and I still feel bad 24 years later. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. Thank you for sharing. |
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Scooter24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
90. You could try |
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Conan_The_Barbarian (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
92. Well since we all know |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
97. Last year my freeper neighbor |
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SOteric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
102. Personally, I think Christmas giving ought to be done out of love |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
103. My mom once threatened to take our Christmas presents |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I agree |
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Hypatia82 (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
104. First off drop the confrontations... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
105. Try one of the alternatives suggested in this thread. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
107. I think it would be cruel |
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flordehinojos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
109. although you don't have to answer, i wonder what you have to gain bytaking |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
110. I have no children, but I have 3 nieces. I told them that I'd... |
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Redstone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
111. Boy, was THAT a stupid thing to do. Now your choices are: |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-15-05 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
112. You're in a tough spot. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
115. Don't take Xmas away, take their rooms away. |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
116. Depends how you treat Christmas |
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GrpCaptMandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
117. How about this? |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 03:42 AM Response to Original message |
118. Please don't do this... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. I thought of that story when I saw this thread... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
121. ***FOLLOW UP*** Here's what we're doing. |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. that is so wonderful! |
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I Have A Dream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Sounds like a really good compromise! n/t |
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Whoa_Nelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
128. OK...now that you've made your decisons re: Christmas... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. Chore schedules will be tied to rewards. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. Good idea! |
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CatBoreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #121 |
137. I'm glad you've come up with a solution.... |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
130. The trouble is, you can't make idle threats |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. I really disagree |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-16-05 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
132. Please consider what I said upthread |
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