Howard Stern

[NJ Democrats]

Today as you may know, was Howard Stern's last day on FM Radio. On January 6th he starts at Sirius Satillite Radio.
What are your feelings about him?
I personnaly love him. He is soo awsome!

[MrScorpio]

1. I like Howard

Profane, but with a good heart


Great combo

[Radio_Lady]

20. self-delete - second thread on this subject...

[SofaKingLiberal]

2. I thought it was January 9.

[NJ Democrats]

3. Your right.

I thought is was the 6th. It IS the 9th.

[Radio_Lady]

5. Good-bye, Howard... you have sullied the radio dial long enough.

I hope you go down in flames on SIRIUS, seriously. You are an embarassment to those of us who call ourselves broadcasters.

You have stretched the line between fun, fantasy, and fuckin' awful radio, including a load of anti-female frivolity -- to the ultimate scatological limit.

Your wife has divorced you, but some other woman is with you, so you are not alone. I don't know what your children will think of you after they grow up. Clearly, you never did, and your father was right. You never amounted to anything, but of course, you are a very RICH nothing. Me? I think you are a really sick person and I pity you.

(Signed)

Radio_Lady (former Radio advertising manager for a Boston-based company)

Someone who was forced to advertise on your NY station in 1995-6 using your limited vocal "talents" and tolerating the other nonsense you spouted about our company.

I want you to know I fought hard NOT to go with you, but the male managers won that one.

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. I agree

he is not at all talented or an asset to radio.

[Radio_Lady]

17. So, are people rushing to install the SIRIUS receiver?

And then it costs $16.00 a month to subscribe?

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. I already have it.

I also have XM. I had Sirius in my car and the car was totaled. So I bought a new car and it has XM. We are keeping the Sirius and my husband is installing it in his truck.

They are only around $10 a month. I love it because I live in red state hell and now I can listen to Air America. My husband is a musician and loves the music variety.

[Radio_Lady]

19. I can get the audio for the CBS TV channel at 87.7 FM -- plus all

the music and audio CDs I've collected, and about 500 cassette tapes (still going...). I think we had SIRIUS on one of the cars we rented and it was great -- actually, I may have listened to NPR News and Rush Limbaugh that particular day. It was some kind of rare and interesting show!

The FM reception here in Portland is good for smooth jazz, (new dial assignment WIJZ 105.9), "real" jazz at 89.1 and non-commercial classical music at 89.9 (KBPS). AM has KPOJ 620 with AAR, but I've stopped listening as much to talk as I did when they signed on in March 2004. Have to keep my blood pressure in check!

And then, on the computer, there are umpteen other choices, including my program on Mondays, 1PM Pacific Time (please adjust for your time zone). Of course, you need a sound card and speakers.

24/7 streaming audio from Omni Media Networks.

Go to: www.opb.org/programs/streams

Choose a media player in SECOND PARAGRAPH for "Golden Hours" -- you're there! This is a subchannel (or Secondary Audio Programming) for Oregon Public Broadcasting in Portland, Oregon.

"Goodnight and good luck!"

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. Thanks

I like to sit and watch my TIVOed TV shows when I am at my computer. I have streamed some radio shows though.

My radio choices here are RW or sports talk. And there is country and 'classic' rock. We had a great jazz station but it is now Christian radio.

So I don't mind at all paying to have Randi Rhodes on my drive home.

[Radio_Lady]

22. Wow! Let's hear it for more liberal choices, wherever you are!

Peace. Got to get to bed. Got up at 4:30 AM. It's now 10:00 PM. Sleep. Now.

[DS1]

27. meh

:shrug:

[Radio_Lady]

29. Ahem. MEH WARNING: Your web site makes this elderly lady blush.

Have fun! (I did... and STILL DO!)

:smiling:

[johnnie]

30. Wow..LOL

I guess you don't like him. I think he has his moments. As far as I'm concerned he is an entertainer and that's it. If you don't like it, turn it off. It's one of those things to me.

Sorry you have so much hatred built up toward some guy who is really nothing but some guy on the radio.

[Room101]

38. Radio_Lady..

You bashing Howard for his broadcasting skills are an equivalent to a NFL quarterback bashing Joe Montana’s passing skills. I get the dislike of his personality but he has had more listeners than anyone in broadcasting history.

Are you really mad because you are working at a Dinosaur medium where people can’t speak like regular adults sprinkled in with mind numbing commercials and the same old play lists?

I just got Sirius and I’m never going back! Sirius offers over 120 commercial free music channels including uncensored talk/comedy channels.

FM radio is the pink Dinosaur in the broadcast living room.

[Radio_Lady]

40. Numbers do not mean "class." Even SIRIUS will have to be successful

or he will be gone. It's guys like you who will make Stern successful. {{By the way, what do you do exactly with the repetitive content? Record it? Slurp over it?}} He'll have to have lots of you to support $100 million dollars in salary, and not counting the executives. How many folks is SIRIUS signing up now -- and how many will listen daily to this channel?

Other men and perhaps women have drifted with their bawdy fantasies since the beginning of time, I guess. "Let's get groovy with each other," Adam said to Eve. In the 1940s, men slurped themselves with bare pictures of Betty Grable, French postcards, etc. etc. and busty females on many radio and TV shows. Do you think you're something special because you like {{breasts and buttocks}}? Guess what, you're not...

I have known better people than Howard Stern. He may be entertaining to you, but in my humble opinion, he is lacking even the first primordial knowledge about how to describe a woman's body with affection, longing, and beauty. Off the top of my head, I would suggest the Kama Sutra, writings by the middle Eastern poet Kahlil Gibran, who talks about "Your children are not your children.."

But you will have to live a lifetime to understand. You may have to have different parents, you understand... who exposed you to the more beautiful and uplifting things of life. For example this painting. Can you see it? My father painted it. It's a copy of a record album by Michel LeGrand called "La Femme." My father was a delightful, cultured man of many talents.

How old are you? Enjoy SIRIUS! It's probably a very good service. I happen to like Itzhak Perlman, Joshua Bell, Carlos Kalmar, Cellini, Vivaldi and Antonio Stradivari (he made the most wonderful violins), Edward Grieg, Giacomo Puccini. Yesterday, in a sweeping gesture at the gym, watching CMT, I saw the most sensitive video of "Skin/Sara Beth," performed by a country group call Rascal Flatts.

Do you know if any of those mother-fuckers are on SIRIUS? If so, it might be worth a shot! See you on the stratospheric radio!

Good night and good luck!

Radio_Lady

Posted with caution by Radio_Lady {{Naked Lady}}.

[Radio_Lady]

41. FREE NAKED LADY in post above this. You have to see it to believe it!

n/t

[Darth_Kitten]

62. That's great art.

And I'm a gal. :)

[LynneSin]

59. I'm a progressive thinking woman and I loved Howard Stern

I enjoyed his show for years although at times I have to admit even I would turn him off when he got a little too out there (especially when he'd bring in the farters - that was just annoying).

I never thought he was degrading to women, if anything he has been not only a major advocate against the Bush administration but a strong proponent of both choice and equal-rights (but politically he's a Libertarian). No one forced these women to come on his show and get naked, they chose it for themselves. And I always got a good chuckle at some of the dim-wits that would come on his show. He had a way of taking these people who voluntarily came on his show and make some great entertainment out of it.

And he stood up to the FCC which I hope he is sucessful beyond all measures on Sirius. I still haven't decided on which satellite station I want only because I'd also like Air America but that's on XM. But terrestrial radio will go the way of network television which will manage to survive pay radio but will have a major hit with new technology. To be honest, outside of Howard Stern and WXPN public radio out of UPenn, I pretty much quit listening to radio all together. Way too many commericials and most of the time I'm forced to listen to music I cannot stand.

[adriennui]

4. i love the man (and personna)

i've been listening since the 1980's. he's brilliant and funny, there's also a very special synergy between howard and the crew (fred, robin, baba, artie....even jackie before he quit).

when i woke up each morning the first thing i'd do is see what was doing on the stern show. he kept me laughing through some rough times in my life. see, there is really a unique bond his fans feel for him.

some of the best moments were the day he announced his split from allison (his first wife)....there was such pain in his voice and he was brutally honest. and the his 9/11 show was a masterpiece...no script, just anger, fear and trying to inform. having him on that day for 7 hours straight kept me sane.

he's a wonderful man, he flies under the radar with his generosity.

[Radio_Lady]

6. Really? Adriennui, sorry you have fallen for the "snake oil" merchant.

First of all, you must know I'm really liberal. My daily four-hour talk radio program aired in Boston -- I was one of the first woman doing this format in the U.S.

I had the FCC on my case a couple of times, although no company ever had to pay a fine. We did Date-A-Mate shows, sex fantasy stuff, etc. in the 1970s in Florida and also in Massachusetts. But the line had to be drawn somewhere.

The only thing I like about Stern is his curly hair! In my opinion, Howard Stern is really interested in one thing -- himself.

By the way, will they still broadcast his show on cable TV now that he is gone from radio? I SIRIUSLY hope not.

Did Allison marry someone else? I hope so. I hope her children have a good role model from another man.

I did see "Private Parts" a couple of years ago and thought it was "cute" and "funny" -- but at the expense of his family.

Wishing you happy, healthy, hearty holidays!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[NJ Democrats]

7. No he will not be on Cable

He wil be on On Demand.

[Radio_Lady]

8. Good. I won't demand him...

Glad he helped you get through some "rough spots" -- I feel that way about some musical groups, and I did have a crush on one television performer who helped me, too.

[adriennui]

9. you're certainly entitled

to your opinion. the world of radio is big enough to have a show like yours or howards.

howards' wife did remarry, in fact, her new husband is super wealthy. the divorce was handled with dignity because they didn't want the children to suffer.

obviously, howard is an acquired taste but that's what makes life interesting.

[Radio_Lady]

11. How many children were involved? How old?

Thank goodness that I was divorced when my children were one and two years old. I remarried their stepdad 1 1/2 years later (his wife had died of cancer at age 34). We celebrate 33 years together next February 4, 2006.

The only man they knew would take care of them was their stepfather. During their teens, they also lived with my ex-husband and his wife. My ex = their biological father -- he's far away and not very happy about how things have turned out. (Stepfather introduced my daughter to a young man he worked with. She married him! Then, we moved west to be nearer my kids... 2750 miles from Boston to Portland, OR.)

Anyway, I hope Allison's and Howard's kids grow up straight and true -- and that their new stepfather is good and kind to them.

Wishing you a happy, healthy, and hearty holiday season.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Redstone]

10. Thank you, R_L, for some much-needed perspective.

I listened to Stern in the 1980s on my drive home, when he was on WNBC. And got sick of him after about two months. You are right on the mark with your comment that he's only interested in self-promotion.

He's boring.

Redstone

[Radio_Lady]

12. Boring. Stupid. Outrageous. Misogynistic. Potty mouth. User of women.

I guess Howard's father is dead, but how about his mother or any other relatives? If he were related to me, I'd be ashamed.

Now, you understand, this is coming from a very liberal female radio personality who had to deal with sexual harassment many times in a variety of broadcasting jobs. I absolutely cringe when he talks; not just what he says, but his New York accent. Who does he think he is?

But, as they used to say about some other performer, "He's laughing all the way to the bank." I saw him recently on "The Daily Show" self-promoting as usual. He didn't look that happy -- refused Jon Stewart's generous offer of a black jacket. He could have taken it and given it to charity. What a creep!

SIRIUS is satellite feed, right? Well, I hope Howard doesn't stop there. Personally, I'd like to fling him out to the orbit of Pluto and lose him somewhere in deep space!

Over and out, Redstone...

[Kire]

13. His father's still alive.

nt

[Radio_Lady]

15. Thanks for the information.

Are they estranged? Stern chastizes his father for putting him down all through his childhood.

So, that's a son to be proud of? Maybe the father should write a "tell-all" book called:

HOWARD STERN: UNCENSORED, UNCARING, AND UNDRESSED

[Radio_Lady]

16. After reading this article, I now believe Howard may not need to get laid,

but he does need a good psychiatrist. His power and personality come from his job. Yikes...

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051205064409990002&cid=

Does Stern think he is hard to work for and hard to work with?

“Yeah. I'm not a good listener some times. I'm too much of a control freak. I’m learning to be better. I was so caught up in just getting the job done that I would miss out on the human aspect of this. There was a connection missing. But I truly love those people I work with. And I appreciate everything they do for me. And I just don't say it enough,” says Stern.

It’s something he gets emotional about. “Yeah, I do. I really feel that I could have been more connected to them,” says Stern.

Stern says his inability to connect with those close to him off the air is an ongoing problem and one of the reasons for his divorce in 2001, after 21 years of marriage to the mother of his three daughters.

“I am withdrawn. I have a hard time sitting and relaxing with people and appreciating how much fun that can be. In some way I’m very self-contained, but I think again that’s control. Long as I’m working and doing my thing, I don’t have to deal with anything or anyone else,” says Stern.

(More at link...)

[Bombtrack]

42. He goes to therapy 4 days a week

So many of the posts in this thread prove how wildly misinformed all of his bashers are.

[Radio_Lady]

45. I can feel his pain. I used to go to therapy, but I couldn't afford

four days a week. Hey, I'm just tearing up thinking about how the love of a good woman could have prevented all of this!

:sarcasm:

Really -- four days a week? That's serious therapy. That's probably at several hundred dollars or more an hour -- you know how expensive New York therapists are. I guess he has a glimmer of what life might have been, before he stuck his pecker into the weird world of radio broadcasting.

By the way, did I tell you I think he's kinda cute? He had beautiful eyes and gorgeous thick curly (Sephardic Jewish) hair. I was born a straight haired Jew, so he's appealing. Curly haired people want straight hair, and vice versa.

Are any of you people working tomorrow? Maybe it's time for one more Stern "tune-up" and then, scrub teeth and into your Jammies! Don't let the bedbugs bite!

"Good night and good luck..." now that Edward R. Murrow, THAT was SERIOUS radio!

Radio_Lady

[adriennui]

25. he has both parents

ben and rae who have appeared on the show, three daughters ....2 in college and 1 in secondary school. no one is estranged in his family, in fact he and his ex-wife speak fairly often about the kids. howards' personna is not the real howard. if you met him on a personal basis you might actually like him.

we can agree ti disagree about howard. we've got alot to do to straighten out this country.

[PassingFair]

92. Here's a copy of the letter I sent him when the FCC was

breathing down his neck:

Dear Mr. Stern:

I have never listened to your radio show for more than 10 minutes at a time, nor have I been able to stomach your repulsive television presence any longer than it takes to locate the remote control and push the channel button in any direction. If you were to show up at my side door, I would not open it unless you were actively being torn apart by wild dogs.

This being said, throughout the years, I have held the "power of the clicker" over you, and have always utilized it effectively. When certain gentlemen of my acquaintance shared their thoughts with me that you "just say what the rest of us are thinking all the time", I have cringed and feared for society.

The thought of censoring your views, however, or removing you from the cable and airwaves has NEVER occurred to me. It is obviously more than coincidence that you are being censored and harassed due to your newfound knowledge and outspoken criticism of the Bush administration, which, by the way, I would NEVER click away from.

Imagine my confusion and conSTERNation at now being in the position of defending your right to denigrate and debase women and chat-up various and sundry wackos about their personal lives.

By the way, I am curious as to how reading ONE BOOK by Al Franken could turn your whole political worldview around. Is it just the personal damage inflicted upon you by Powell and the Bushreich? Did it need to affect you PERSONALLY before you decided to educate yourself and expose these near totalitarian oil and energy thugs for what they are?

Ah well, whatever the reason, WELCOME TO THE BRIGHT SIDE! In a perfect world, you would now have something better to talk about than salacious, pornographic nonsense. I hope you get the chance to advocate for basic human rights, and against this intrusive, menacing, criminal political administration and the fundamentalists, corporatists and ignoramuses who back it.

Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought I'd say "Thank you, Howard Stern, for all that you do"! But, here goes, "Thank you, Howard, don't let a single voice be squashed by these people!"

[Digit]

23. I found him funnier before the dwarves and hookers

Endless dwarves, girl on girl, show me your t*ts kind of crap does not take
any talent to pull off, and the repetitive nature is boring.

Howard does have talent, but I guess it is easier to do the same things over
and over again than to use your talent to create an entertaining show...no matter
if it pushes the envelope or not.

[Radio_Lady]

28. Interesting. Is it pornography? I don't know. What are young men

-- 18 to 35-year-olds -- DOING when they watch or listen to this show? Will they do it until they go blind??? It will only cost them a few dollars a month, maybe more than they will pay for relatively inexpensive pornography.

When it's ON DEMAND, will they be using electronic devices to get the women with {{{nipples and vulva visibly obscured}}}as they did on cable TV? Or will they show everything intact?

No commercials? That's a plus.

Money will talk. So be it. $100 million is his salary? Howard Stern, you had better be a REALLY BIG HIT, or he will be really gone from the stratosphere.

I'm a nice lady. I hope he uses all the money in good health to enhance the lives of those who love him, as my Jewish mother used to say!

In peace,

Radio_Lady

[Merrick]

36. Actually, he's developing 2 Sirius channels

full of content in the same vein as his show, much of the cost of which he's footing from his salary.
(for instance one show I'm sure you would absolutely LOVE if you gave it a chance called "Crack Whore View" which is basically like "The View" except instead of four women sitting around jabbering inanely about asanine pop culture garbage it'll feature four authentic crack whores sitting around jabbering about the same crap, so it'll at least be funny)

and don't forget, since waking up to the evil of Bush and the Religious Right, Howard has been a major asset to the left, often using his show to rant against them and promote more progressive candidates even at the cost of sometimes annoying and alienating some of the apolitical knuckleheads who listen.

[Radio_Lady]

37. Thanks, Merrick. I'll give Stern a shot -- if only to show my husband

what it's all about.

Come to think of it, how does a person order ON DEMAND? We have cable TV from Comcast -- I don't know if it will be available.

He's never seen his show (hasn't seen "Springer" either).

Husband is not a media mad person like me! :sarcasm:

He's trained as a electrical engineer and then a software engineer (and a helluva good guy...)!

[Bombtrack]

43. You've presented about 15 false notions about him in this thread alone

How many times does a person need to be corrected about a subject they're ignorantly blabbering on about before they realize they aren't informed about it at all.

$100 million is not his salary. Howard doesn't need to be a hit. He signed a 5 year contract as a performer. And Sirius has already gained 2.5 million subscribers since he announced his move, when all they needed was for him to bring in an additional million in order to profit off of the deal.

[Radio_Lady]

48. Well, that not 15. It's maybe two. Are you telling me he's successful

before he even starts a job? That's astounding!

More power to him. Let's see where it leads. Like "Dr. Laura's" defunct TV show. Everybody thought that would be a success, too.

I'm open...

I'm waiting...

I really don't wish the man any ill will.

He's an acquired taste that I don't care for. Like caviar. Or anchovies. Or liver. Don't you know? I probably don't know much about Stern because I DON'T LISTEN TO HIM. So now, I'm enlightened. Are you happy yet?

[Bombtrack]

66. 15 was an exaggeration, and thank you for addressing my complaint

in quite a straight forward way.

[Radio_Lady]

68. No use getting our nuts in a knot over this! I don't have any nuts...

maybe some almonds in the pantry......... :sarcasm:

In peace for the holidays,

READ you at the DU!

Radio_Lady

[sendero]

75. I've noticed ..

.... that he's slowed way down on that stuff lately. I think he does listen to his fans and on radio the "show us your tits" and "you are so hot" stuff isn't that entertaining.

[GrpCaptMandrake]

24. There is no middle ground with Howard Stern

The people who love him listen to him two hours a day. The people who hate him listen for three.

More than anything else, the one thing that has probably "made" him is his ability to be natural and honest behind a mic. That comes through in spades.

Content is a separate issue. Don't like what he talks about? He seems cool with the idea of you changing the dial. Obviously a great many people don't tune out.

There is an abundance of truth in his complaint that he's been targetted for selective enforcement by the FCC. In terms of obscenity, there is far more spewing from the mouths of Phlegmball and, God knows, Michael-the-Savage-Weiner. But L. Brent Bozell the Turd, er, Third, isn't interested in censoring "his" kind of people.

It takes a dirty mind to make a dirty word/concept/image. And from all appearances, Howard is trading on the dirty minds of a great number of people, most of them his detractors.

[Radio_Lady]

26. "Reliable Sources" had an interesting discussion about Howard Stern

on Sunday morning, Dec. 18, 2005. I don't know if there's a link to this program today.

[anti_shrub]

31. I always liked Howard

Sounds like Radio_Lady might have some jealousy issues seeing someone she doesn't approve of succeeding in her field? :shrug:

Like him or not, you can't deny Howard changed FM radio. I guarantee where ever you live there's a morning show that copies their entire act from him.

I'm still considering if I'm gonna get Sirius or not, but Howard's definately a reason in the plus column.

[Radio_Lady]

44. Hey, anti-shrub! I'll PM you my resume and you judge for yourself!

I have absolutely no "jealous issues" with Mr. Stern. I just think the man is lower than dirt and he couldn't wipe the spit off my chin.

I changed AM radio, whether you like it or not. Replaced Larry King when he was arrested four days before Christmas. (See photo at www.mugshots.com that day.) Then hired as the first woman broadcaster in Boston with a full-time daily talk show. This was probably before you were born! Prior to that, my first job (again, one of the first women on TV in Miami at age 17) is pictured down below. It was a kids' TV show. I was co-host. Around the country, there were a handful of other women doing this stuff, but mostly men.

I'm not denying anything. Howard what's-his-face on "Reliable Sources" and his guests this morning discussed the fact that Howard Stern may be changing the face of radio. Bring it on! My show is already heard on Internet radio, and it's free! (A public radio station.)

Peace, dude! (Hey, maybe you're a woman!!! I have no idea!)



Here I am cavorting in the pool during the dinosaur age. Just kidding... it was 1956!

[Merrick]

32. I like him, and if I don't get a Sirius radio for xmas

I'll buy one myself. Couldn't reconcile listening to Adam Corolla (his replacement here in Los Angeles) or whatever else knowing he's out there unshackled and uncensored. Well worth the $13 a month, especially once you add in all the other stations and ESPECIALLY since it's commercial free. As a major anti-commercial media with all of it's corporate brainwashing hater who's spent his life annoying the piss out of everyone around him bitching about it, proclaiming his undying willingness to pay for a service over having to pollute my mind and waste my time with commercials, how could I not shell out for it now?

[Radio_Lady]

50. I love commercial free! Been listening to it most of my adult life.

SIRIUS will be a breath of fresh air (Naw, that's Terry Gross on PBS... what am I thinking?)

[sendero]

74. I don't think..

.... Howard's channels will be commercial free. The music channels, sure - but not Howard's.

I don't expect them to be 25 minutes an hour like it is now though.

[Radio_Lady]

79. What? I thought satellite radio is commercial free?

That's not so?

The station will be earning money from the audience AND sponsors. I gotta check this out...

[sendero]

84. Just like cable TV...

... some channels are commercial free and others are not.

There is no way they could possibly have paid Howard anything near (and of course he denies the $500 million figure, and I believe him) based on subscriptions alone.

I am not positive about this, but pretty sure.

And BTW, I bought my Sirius receiver and subscription a couple weeks ago. I'm ready to leave "terrestrial radio" for good. I agree with Stern, they let the FCC screw them, they don't deserve an audience.

[graywarrior]

33. He's an egocentric, chauvinistic, mysoginist

and I absolutely LOVE him.

[Radio_Lady]

51. Have you subscribed to SIRIUS yet?

Or are you going "cold turkey" without him? Maybe that's cold duck... is he shivering or just trying to break free of the DUCK/DUCT tape?

[richmwill]

34. Howard's time has come and gone...

Howard was great until 1994. After that, it all got OLD, really quick. Although his old Saturday night TV show was, and still is, CLASSIC. Tremendously funny.

Nowadays, I listen to Opie and Anthony. Both are much funnier than Stern. And more genuine.

[Radio_Lady]

39. I agree. Come and gone -- into the stratosphere, where he might

burn himself out and be gone forever. I've seen it with lots of performers. Sorry, folks, but we are exhibitionists to the core and it's a pretty sick business, even though I've been in and around it for more than 30 years.

[Bombtrack]

46. It's quite amazing how every O&A fan recite the exact same talking points

about Howard. Nobody secure about their own show is that obsessed with another one that they have to endocrinate their fans with empty attack propaganda, and apparently their fans are even more unoriginal and redundant than Anthony Cumia himself, the man who says everything before they all say it. It's not that difficult to keep track of, there are only about a dozen different half-truths, rally cries, and flat out lies that make up your guys repertoire of thought about Howard and his show, the show Bababooey told Anthony that "The Opie Show" was a ripoff of to Anthony's face when he came on to do the Jackie Martling sound alike contest.

So lets have the rest shall we?

Howard is old and tired (early 50's), Opie and Anthony are cutting edge, the voice of a new generation (mid-40's).

HOWARD JUST SAYS HE INVENTED EVERYTHING (He quite clearly talks about things he popularized being used by people who then badmouth him)

Bigbird

Hoohoo

Tell'um Fred

[Radio_Lady]

52. Um-m, what market supplies you with OPIE and ANTHONY?

I never heard of these folks. I spent most of my days brushing my long, exotic brown hair and flossing my teeth. Even when I was young, I probably wouldn't have listened to anyone named Opie and Anthony! Seems like I heard Larry King do brilliant radio work in the 1950s -- voices on a filter mike. And then we went out on a date -- he was 23, I was 19! You won't believe what happened! PM me for details.

Caution -- Pictures below supplied at your risk. Naked lady and young broadcaster, in that order.

[Bombtrack]

65. They were a syndicated Infinity show who got fired for their listeners F'n

in St. Patricks cathedral to win a contest. They're now on XM and devote about a quarter of their show to Howard Stern in the way Rush Limbaugh devotes his show to Democrats and liberals.

They basically do their entire show like Howard with small changes like laughing way too much at their own marginally funny thoughts, and doing "the news" at a different time in it.

They're now on XM

[Radio_Lady]

67. OK and thanks. I remember the St. Patrick's contest brouhaha!

Bombtrack, I really appreciate your sharing the info with us! Learn something new every day... that's my motto.

In peace for the holidays,

Radio_Lady

[ucmike]

35. i was a huge fan until 2-3 years ago

i think he has a genuine sense of whats funny, or at least a knack for identifying his potential audience and serving them what they want. in recent years i found him to be more and more self absorbed which turned me off. i also felt that his troubles with the fcc took a lot of his fire. it became impossible for him to do what he does best with the threat of fines hanging over his every word.

i also got very tired of hearing him take credit for anything entertaining. in just the last few months i heard him take credit for inventing acoustic music on the radio and reality tv, and i don't even listen to him anymore. i also thought he had very little concern for people who helped him get where he is, like billy west and jackie martling (hate jackie if you want, but he was a major influence on howards comedy when howard was skyrocketing).

the final straw for me was his dealings with opie&anthony. they were up and coming, working for viacom. they openly credited howard for his influence on their careers and credited him with pioneering the format. he took their very existence as an attack on him, and set out to destroy them. he went on the air day after day and attacked them as "stern clones" and "wannabees", he came across as insecure and uptight. as O&A got more audience, and clout within the company, they grew tired of the attacks and started talking about stern's behind the scenes persona. howard used his contacts with mel karmazin to silence O&A. they were forbidden to mention him on-air or in the press and risked losing their jobs if they mentioned him. once they were effectively silenced he went on the attack, ripping them at every opportunity, while holding himself up as the poster boy for first amendment rights.

i couldn't stand the hypocrisy of stern's anti-fcc crusade at a time when he was using his power to silence other radio personalities, especially a show that was on the same network as stern.

in the begining his appeal was largely that he came across as another working guy with family issues and bills to pay, he understood the working stiffs and gave them a break from their lives for a few hours everyday. as his audience grew he moved away from that to where he is now: a multi-millionaire, living in a nyc penthouse with a model girlfriend, and a $500 million contract, taking credit for anything that succeeds in the entertainment business, and using his power to silence anyone he sees as a threat.

[Bombtrack]

47. ahem, as I was saying

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=4455422&mesg_id=4461953

[Radio_Lady]

53. Thanks for the perspective, ucmike. i hate the lower case and can't

make a case for it, except with e.e. cummings, a poet whose work i have enjoyed since high school.

what about those upper case letters? aren't they a drag?

hardly have to use your shift key -- no shift -- or shit --

is this the way to text message or is it just a lazy way of writing?

[dr.strangelove]

73. I was and still am a fan

And he did do all the things you say. His greatest talent is knowing what people want to hear and giving them it on a solver platter. He spends a great deal of money on production.

I agree he has become self-centered during the past year, but that is because it sells. People want to hear about his life. TO be honest, it is a real live soap opera with the mansion apartment, the model girlfriend and the money he makes.

The fcc did slow him down. After the first settlement he stopped doing many great bits and others were only let by once. the "its just wrong" thing is one of the funniest things I have ever heard, though it only ran once. Without the fcc on his ass, I expect the fire to return.

As for his taking credit for anything entertaining, I think you are overstating the case, but many of what you state are true. He was the first national show to use in-studio acoustic material. He was doing this when MTV still played videos in the early 80s. He claimed ot invent the Ozzy MTV show because in 1993 he told OZZY And Sharon their life would make a great TV show and he would produce it, but it felt through. What I think he gets the most angry about is other comedians taking his stuff, which is considered a sacrilege to comedians. Jay Leno stole jaywalking from stern and stole the homeless game from him. If leno stole that from letterman their would be a lawsuit, and stern has 5 times the audience leno and 10 time the audience letterman has every day.

You are insane if you think Howard has little concern for billy west. Stern has reached out to billie on and off air for almost seven years now. The Jackie Martling issue was more complex. Stern was walked out on, which no one does. He was hurt and called the bluff, Jackie was given time to come back and he thought he was too important.

I also think you have selective memory on the o&a history. I am a big fan of both and we bought XM just to get O&A and will put sirius in my other car to get howard (i wish they were ont eh same system) so I am a fan of both and don;t want to talk bad about either, but they were both (all three) assholes in this regard. Howard reacted as any no. 1 does to serious competition, and O&A were the only serious competition howard ever had. He fought to keep his spot as No.1. His show got better. This is when "Its just wrong" and "the tickle chair" debuted. Howard stepped up to the best challenge he ever faced. O&A stepped up in response and they had a great time fighting him. They fucked up and went over the line with the St. Pats bs, but their XM show is great as ever and will compete with Stern. Anyway, there was plenty of blame to go around for the bad blood, but I think it was good reason, it made both shows better.

Anyway, on to Sirius...

[OrwellwasRight]

49. I could do without his pandering to base and hateful instincts in people.

We are all responsible for what we put out there in society, and he just doesn't give a shit how mosogynistic he is.

Good riddance I say.

[Radio_Lady]

54. OK. It's "misogynistic." People who don't like women or spelling.

Sorry, I've been holding that inside for SO long!

Read and be enlightened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynistic

See you in class... tomorrow.

[OrwellwasRight]

55. It's called a typo my friend.

Notice how, on the keyboard, the "o" and the "i" are next to each other?

But go ahead and think I am too stupid to know what misogyny is if it makes you feel better.

Where does all this hatefulness come from anyway? Have you been watching/listening to too much Howard Stern? ;-)

[Radio_Lady]

56. Sorry. Didn't mean to be hard, just that spelling errors drive me crazy.

Now I am officially off my rocker, it's time to get off the G_D DAMN DU! Others have misspelled it in this and also the other thread. This morning everything feels better... refreshed by the snow and rain. Peace.

Thanks for your patience.

Radio_Lady

[OrwellwasRight]

61. Point taken.

Spelling errors drive me crazy as well. It's just that I am a good speller (I even won a Spelling Bee in 5th Grade--my crowning achievement--ha ha), but a terrible typist (perhaps one of the worst of all time).

And you know how fast DU moves. Sometimes you forget to hit spell check or are convinced you typed error-free and do not need it and need to get your post up and move on to the next response you need to make. By the time you find out you goofed, it may be too late to edit. Then you're sunk.

I wonder if Skinner et al. could set the board to automatically spell check. That would help a lot. I know I can set my Outlook to do it, so why not DU posts?

[Radio_Lady]

64. Good idea.

I think you can email suggestions to <skinner(at)democraticunderground.com> Of course, you know to change the "at" to @.

Take care, OrwellwasRight. I won the first level of a spelling bee in 8th grade. Great fun? Have you seen the movie "The Bee Season"?

Nice to speak with you.

Radio_Lady

[YankeyMCC]

57. He's perhaps the most entertaining person

I know of.

He's inovative...he pushes the edges...yes he's crossed lines I would not have but in an truly open and free society you have to deal with that...let other people cross lines.

He is right on the front lines of the fight for freedom of speech...if not liberty in general from an over reaching government.

I purchased Sirius last year when he started talking about it. At first I didn't, I was not about to pay just to hear his show but as time went on I realized it isn't just about him...I purchased Sirius because I truly think that is where I'll have to go to hear truly entertaining, cutting edge radio and independent news reporting.

[Radio_Lady]

69. I wonder if he has any listeners from Europe...

They are much freer about sexuality, nudity, free love, homosexuality. Especially in Amsterdam -- raw, raw, raw!

The best thing is it's subscription radio with NO commercials.

Non-commercial is the best. I volunteer at a PBS radio-TV station -- and listen to them, as well as the jazz station from Mt. Hood College and the classical music station, also NPR and commercial free!

Good thing is Howard won't have to deliver commercials! He just "did me dirt" with a modest radio budget -- his charges almost wiped out the whole thing! And then to F**K up the copy!

Hey, it's been ten years. I forgive him.

In peace -- see you at the DU!

Radio_Lady

[Horus45]

58. I have missed him since moving to AZ 2 years ago

Don't know yet whether I want to get Sirius or not.
Is the E! Show still going to be on?

[ronnykmarshall]

60. A good stock tip.

I bought about $1000 of Sirius stock the day he announced his deal. If I were to sell it today I would have made about 80% return on the investment.

I'm waiting to sell it when his show starts.

Thanks for the good stock tip Howard!

[Radio_Lady]

70. Did you know they settled on an insider trading story about this stock?

I heard it on the news today.

Here's the story:

http://www.heraldnewsdaily.com/stories/news-00113956.html

[ronnykmarshall]

76. ooooooo!

That's so dumb when people do that.

[dr.strangelove]

63. I'm a big fan and already purchased Sirius

I like his show and his humor. I'll be "there" on Jan 9.

[Radio_Lady]

71. Howard clearly has his niche all ready to welcome him with open

arms.

No problem, Dr. Strangelove! By the way, I loved that movie!

In peace... READ you on the DU!

Radio_Lady

[GoddessOfGuinness]

72. Never liked him

from the time he was a radio announcer around here. His brand of crass just isn't my thing.

[Radio_Lady]

80. What's your understanding? Will his show be commercial-free on

SIRIUS?

From sendero's post #74 on this thread:

<I don't think Howard's channels will be commercial free. The music channels, sure - but not Howard's.
I don't expect them to be 25 minutes an hour like it is now though.>

Are we talking about his radio show or his "ON DEMAND" TV show. I'm confused.

[Lilith Velkor]

77. Bo-ring!

[ScreamingMeemie]

78. No feeling really.

:hi:

[Book Lover]

81. He's like every other small-d*ck guy I left NYC because of

I'm glad he found his audience, but I would be happy to toss my drink in his face if he said something stupid to me at a party.

[Radio_Lady]

82. Nicely stated, Book Lover!

I'm in total agreement.

[MrSlayer]

83. Love em. The best radio personality ever.

I've been listening for over 20 years and am moving with him to Sirius.

Stern rules.

[Radio_Lady]

85. Hey -- are we finished? I think we're split 50-50, don't you?

Good luck, Howard on January 9th. I don't think you are evil, just wayward. If you want my advice, stick with your psychotherapy. It will help you later in your life.

We'll be watching your ratings (how will they accomplish that... are they going to let Nielsen do it?). I'm sure others will share shreds of news from your life... I guess I'll hear about it here. Your apartment, your girl friend, your parents, your children -- I relate to all of that. (Well, all except the girlfriend.)

Over and out.

See you at the DU.

In peace for the holidays,

Radio_Lady
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[MrSlayer]

86. Hmmmm...someone sounds bitter.

Lighten up, it's all just jokes you know.

[Radio_Lady]

87. Hey, MrSlayer. Are you talking to me? Bitter? Not me, kiddo!

I'm one of the funniest people you'll ever know! What do I have to be bitter about? Sweet husband, married to him for 33 years. We have married adult kids who are making their way with their young families, we're got some neat in-laws, and wonderful grandchildren. Good health. Retired and traveling the world. Maybe you or Howard Stern would want to swap for MY life -- dunno!

Here is a picture of us on horseback in San Antonio, Texas. That was one gorgeous vacation. Now we're off to Salt Lake City, Utah for New Year's and in February, we're traveling again to Arizona and Nevada. It's one BE-YOU-TEE-FUL life, mi amigo!

Make it a wonderful holiday season, MrSlayer. Think about worldwide peace for 2006.

C U (at)the DU!

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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[MrSlayer]

88. Well you seem to be very bitter toward Stern.

Not necessarily about life. Congratulations on being retired and riding horses and you have a nice holiday season as well.

:D

[Radio_Lady]

89. MrSlayer, you slay me!

This is the end of my part of the discussion.

Reminds me of the old joke - "Everyone to his own taste," she said, as she kissed the cow's ass.

Enjoy Howard, no problem. Maybe we'll meet again around the DU.

"Goodbye and good luck!"

OT: Now, that Edward R. Murrow was a real broadcaster. Are you old enough to remember him?
Just too bad about his nicotine habit -- those cigarettes took him down.

(Wonder if Howard Stern smokes? I hope not.)

http://www.otr.com/murrow.shtml

[Mizmoon]

90. Stern makes me disappointed in my fellow humans

But more disappointing is that his brand of hateful abuse disguised as humor is well-loved even on DU.

[Radio_Lady]

91. Ouch! Painful but interesting perception...

I'm convinced that the Internet brings out both the best and worst in people.

In the period of 1998 to 2000, I participated in a movie review exchange on Usenet. The barbs were terrific -- people heckled and swore and pointed fingers. I finally left the group. Sometimes on the IMDB (the Internet Movie Database), this sort of thing occurs in the poorly-moderated forums section.

I really hope the DU isn't headed in that same direction. If the admins keep a firm grip, I think we'll be OK. Remember, there are unruly members in any group this large. And that doesn't even count the trolls!