do you love actors, singers, etc because they say something liberal

[sundog]

i mean, i read that Charlotte Church called *bush a "right weirdo"

i was thinking i would go out & buy some of her cd's



http://www.examiner.ie/breaking/story.asp?j=167555035&p=y6755585x&n=167555921&x=

[Misunderestimator]

1. You suck. With that as an example, absolutely not.

:P

On edit... after reading the article... I might listen to a minute or two if someone else buys the CD.


"He asked me what state Wales was in. I said: ‘It’s its own country next to England, actually Mr Bush.’"

:rofl:

[Shell Beau]

2. Nope! It may give them some bonus points in my book, but

I like them for their talents!!

[DanCa]

3. It really depends on thier talent.

But I must say that my interest in Bruce Springsteen has been rekindled since he was campaigning with John Kerry. I have a new appreciation and understanding of his lyrics since he became more vocaly opposed to Bush and the neo cons.

[MissMillie]

4. George and Viggo

Hot stuff!

[WeRQ4U]

5. She always freaked me out.

I just couldn't imagine that voice coming out of that little 14 year old's lungs.

[swag]

6. No, I love actors, singers, etc.

because of the fabulous fake bukkake nudes they appear in.

[RandomKoolzip]

32. How sweet of Jessica Alba to pose for those shots!

I mean, she really knows her demographic, duzzn't she?

[ScreamingMeemie]

7. Charlotte Church's first CD is really quite excellent. But, I wouldn't

buy another just based on her opinions. Just like I wouldn't "necessarily" give Brad and Angelina a pass for their bad behaviour just because they are now saving the world from itself. I cannot help that I am not making sense this morning. :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

8. Brad and Angelina's bad behavior? What bad behavior?

[sundog]

9. these outfits:

i don't think they were even trying that day

[ScreamingMeemie]

11. Hey! I'd wear my nightgown out too! If I could get away with it.

It would really be no different than how I wear my pj's out for the morning bus run.

[Misunderestimator]

12. Wow. Now it makes sense... finally!

We should definitely judge them on that! :wow:

[ScreamingMeemie]

10. The lack of sense to hold off printing a spread in W magazine for at

least a few weeks after "the breakup". And, and this is only my opinion, using Brad's wreck of a marriage to further the receipts for their movie. Ah, but that's Hollywood I suppose. Really. Not my issue. The three of them are no prize. Those who get my appreciation and adulation are those who work behind the scenes for the common good. Again, this is only my opinion, and not really worth getting into a tizzy over.

[Misunderestimator]

16. I don't think we can possibly know all that went on between them.

And yeah... it's Hollywood. I just find it odd that people are so quick to judge THIS couple. Especially given the ways in which Angelina HAS worked behind the scenes to benefit others. I just don't get it.

[ScreamingMeemie]

20. Oh God. I judge everybody in Hollywood. And, HOLY CWAP! I subscribe

to People Magazine even. :wow: Yes, it's true, I don't hide it under a loaf of bread at the checkout anymore. I don't think I'm really going to waste another moment thinking about two people that I don't even know, yet are in the public eye, and so far as I know, I'm allowed to have an opinion on. :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

23. Um, yeah... I didn't say you judged everybody...

quite the opposite. I ask why these particular people. yow.

[ScreamingMeemie]

25. Umm, yeah....I tend to post all sarcastic like in these threads.

[Shell Beau]

17. Well she got pregnant before he was even divorced!

And having an affair = bad behavior to me!

[progmom]

18. it takes time for a divorce to be finalized

:shrug:

[Shell Beau]

21. Of course and during that time don't go getting other

people pregnant. That is a slap in the face to your prior spouse. I mean if you are such a caring person, wouldn't you factor that in?

[Misunderestimator]

26. So, she should have gotten an abortion out of respect for brad's ex?

:shrug:

[Shell Beau]

27. That is not at all what I said or implied.

They should have been a lot more careful and I am thinking this pregnancy was on purpose.

[Misunderestimator]

31. Why do you care? Why would it matter? If it was on purpose...

that means they wanted a child very much. What is wrong with that? Why should they not do whatever they want with their lives?

[Shell Beau]

35. I just take marriage and people's feelings seriously

If I want to be selfish and not wait, then I would do what they did, but if I could wait until at least the divorce was finalized and maybe spare some feelings, then that is what I would choose to do.

[Misunderestimator]

38. I don't judge them for waiting for a piece of paper.

It's not as if Brad has pretended to stay with Jennifer. And I really don't think it's appropriate to judge someone for following their heart. To spare some feelings? Makes no sense. And it really makes no sense for outsiders who know none of the facts to judge them.

[Shell Beau]

40. We just see this differently! He still could have

followed his heart after the divorce was done. It was only like 2 months to wait. It is respectful and sensitive. That is the way I see it and that is what I would have done. It shouldn't always be about what you want, take others into account as well.

[Misunderestimator]

41. And their choices shouldn't be about what YOU want either.

Just as my choices in life aren't the same as yours. I don't judge you because you make different choices than I do. That's the way I see it...

[Shell Beau]

42. Ok

[progmom]

28. i agree to a point

but every situation is different, and since we are not privy to the conversations that took place between any of these people it's impossible to know what their arrangement is (unless Jen has been quoted saying something about this...then I'm an uninformed ass and I'll shut up now. :))

[Shell Beau]

29. .

:) :hug:

[Misunderestimator]

19. How do you know they had an affair?

How does anyone know the truth about people whose lives are fodder for our smarmy lying magazines?

Judging her about getting pregnant before the divorce ... I don't get that either. Why would a piece of paper making official the breakup that already happened make it ok to get pregnant?

[Shell Beau]

24. It would matter to me and I am pretty sure it mattered to

his ex going by her comments in interviews. It is very insensitive.


And you'd have to be foolish to believe there wasn't anything going on between those two.

[Misunderestimator]

30. No, actually, I wouldn't have to be.

I don't know the facts and neither do you. And I don't know why anyone should resist being with the person they love, simply because others may think it insensitive. This happens all over the world, every day. Brad and Angelina are human like the rest of us. I reserve my judgments for people who deserve it.

[Shell Beau]

33. Okay

Resisting being with the one you love while you are married to the one you don't is always a good idea!!

[progmom]

36. sometimes it's a matter of timing

...and can't be helped.

Am I being defensive? You bet. But progdad and I have worked it out between us, and it's no one else's business.

[ghostsofgiants]

43. The fact than anyone even gives a shit about Brad and Angelina...

To the point they are willing to have online arguments about their relationship is really fucking depressing.

[ScreamingMeemie]

44. Yes....I guess sarcasm doesn't come across very well online.

I really didn't deserve that. :hi:

[ghostsofgiants]

46. No kidding.

Anyone who feels passionately about this one way or another needs to get a life. Seriously, haha.

[Misunderestimator]

47. Indeed.

On edit... by "Indeed" I realize that I am one side of the group of people you are criticizing in that post, and am admitting that I probably was a little too passionate about it in this thread.

Just in case there's any misunderstanding of my post here. :hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

48. As one who doesn't make covert comments about others, doesn't

engage in online warfare, I seriously have a problem understanding these people and the games they play. Leave me out of it please, I left you out of it. :hi:

[Misunderestimator]

49. MrsGrumpy... You brought up Brad and Angelina's "bad behavior"

I don't see where I did anything except ask why you judge what they've done as bad. Seriously. :hi: What did I say to you that you feel you don't "deserve"... because it sounds like you think I attacked you. I didn't.

[ScreamingMeemie]

50. Karen, if you run a search on my posts, you will see I often make

jesting comments about the stars. OMG! Jessica and Nick are splitting up! Things of that manner. That's what this is. You failed to see it, I suppose. I can't help that...but I can clarify myself. I didn't say you attacked. I said you failed to see the sarcasm. When I said "I Judge Everyone in Hollywood"...I meant it. I do...for fun. With the possible exception of Johnny Depp.

[Misunderestimator]

53. I'm sorry...

I admit that I had a bit of a kneejerk reaction having seen a lot of this about Brad and Angelina lately. Hopefully I explained it in my pm.

:peace:

[Shell Beau]

55. And I don't judge Matthew McConnaughey. He gets away

with whatever he wants!! :loveya:

Hollywood and celebrities are just fun to talk about sometimes. It is no biggie. It doesn't mean we don't have a life. Jeez!!

:pals:



OMG, I misspelled Matthew's name!! How dare I? :P

[ScreamingMeemie]

73. I won't tell him. Secret's safe with me...unless I decide he's really HOT>

;) :hug:

[Shell Beau]

54. Why do you say that? Just b/c Hollywood (movies and actors) interests me

such as music would interest others doesn't mean I don't have a life. It just means we like different things. Plus I am a Jennifer Aniston fan and I felt really bad for her. No, I don't know her personally but shit, it is just something to talk about.This IS the lounge.

[ghostsofgiants]

56. Because it's completely irrelevant.

I just don't understand the thirst for gossip (even if just a small thirst) that people seem to have. I'm not going to condemn or defend any parties involved because it's all pointless. Movies and actors interest me too, but only insofar as it is in an artistic capacity. I don't care who's married to whom or who is fucking whom, and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to waste their time arguing over it. At least discussing them in an artistic context has some merit.

[Shell Beau]

57. But that is just you! A lot of people are interested in this kind of stuff

Maybe you think it is stupid and maybe it is, but the fact is it is interesting. At least to a lot of people, or else the magazine population would cut in half. Why do you care anyway?

[ghostsofgiants]

58. Because the energy I see so oftenput into this meaningless bullshit...

Could be so much better spent in any number of ways.

[Shell Beau]

60. But are you wasting your energy now even discussing it?

I am not being smart-assy, I don't see how it affects you and why you care. I personally think a lot of energy is wasted talking about sports, etc., but I am not going to tell people they should get a life.

[ghostsofgiants]

62. I had no intention of getting dragged into an argument over this.

Whereas you seem quite intent on arguing over it. That's the difference.

And that's my whole point: It doesn't affect me and I don't care, and I think it's ridiculous that anyone else does as well.

As for sports, as much as I hate them, at least they give some people a sense of meaning and sort of social unity. I really hope you don't get that sense of meaning and unity from celebrity relationships and gossip.

[Shell Beau]

65. Of course I don't get a sense of meaning from it, but it is just

interesting. Mindless interest. That is all it is for me. I am not trying to argue, but when someone basically tells me to get a life, I feel the need to get my point across.

[ghostsofgiants]

67. Don't think I was targetting you specifically or anything.

This whole fucking culture where it's considered worthwhile and even profitable to follow celebrity gossip is just beyond my comprehension. I was speaking about the culture as a whole, inspired by the argument that was taking place. I never even took notie as to who was involved in the argument, just that there was one, and that it was so completely irrelevant.

[Shell Beau]

68. Ok, cool!

:7

[caty]

13. I like them for their talents.

However, if I hear something bad about them, I tend to lose interest in them. I don't make a decision to avoid their work. I just seem to lose respect for them.

[ghostsofgiants]

14. Not if they suck.

[WeRQ4U]

39. I concur.

Well-played. Well-played indeed.

[Zuni]

15. I just ordered her whole catalog online

:woohoo:

[sundog]

37. good job zuni

i'm proud of you :thumbsup:

[Misunderestimator]

45. ...

:P

[Ally McLesbian]

22. They would have to be good too

That said, I love Melissa Etheridge and Jennifer Aniston!

[terrya]

34. I loved Streisand before I knew she was a liberal.

So, I guess I was ahead of the curve or something.

[jpgray]

51. "Ahead of the curve," is that a crack at her nose?

If not, can I interpret it as one? :D

[terrya]

59. If you want.

:-)

[asthmaticeog]

61. Are you SURE you were ahead of the curve?

Are you sure you weren't just Jewish or gay?

[terrya]

63. I guess it's just the gay thing.

It's my stereotypical homosexualness.

[asthmaticeog]

64. Yes, for me it's the Jew thing.

As a child, I was indoctrinated in the ways of Streisand, Neil Diamond and other hebraic entertainers by my loving Jewy family.

Jews... who know homosexuals... are the luckiest people in the world!

[terrya]

69. Yes...La Stresisand is Jewish101

And homosexuals...who know Jews....are the luckiest people in the world!

[asthmaticeog]

71. Is that because of the cleaner appearance cutting lends?

:evilgrin:

[LynneSin]

52. I have to confess I became a diehard Green Day fan after American Idiot

although I was starting to take notice of them (hey, I'm a bit slow with picking up new musical tastes) probably sometime after Nimrod.

"We're not Anti-American, We're Anti-War"

I think that pretty much sums up everyone here at DU (well for those of us who live in America anyways)

[realisticphish]

66. nope

oh, i'm happy if celebs i already like say stuff, but if you suck, you don't get a pass with me for being liberal

[jobycom]

70. It sways me, but not decisively. Art is about ideology as much as talent

and an artist who agrees with me politically I feel is more likely to see and feel things the way I do. So it impresses me, and might get me to look closer at them.

There are right-wing nutjobs I like anyway as artists, although learning that someone is a Republican turns me away from them. They have to overcome that with talent to win me over.

There are a lot of factors I look for. Emotional connection, passion, ideology, talent, sophistication, subtlety. If I can connect with someone, I do, which is why I don't get into the hate-fests around here against popular actors or singers. Political agreement is just one factor.

There are times I'll buy an album or book or see a movie to make a statement: F/9-11, the Dixie Chicks, etc. But that's different.

[last_texas_dem]

72. Not usually, but

finding out a public figure I already liked shares my political views often raises my opinion of them personally. And if someone I'm unfamiliar with does something (movie, album, etc.) that is explicitly political it may make me more interested in checking out their stuff; however, it won't necessarily make me like it!

[huskerlaw]

74. Yes, it helps.

If I really hate their acting/singing/etc. I hate it less vehemently.

If I already liked them, I support them even more.

Meanwhile, if I find out they're Repubs, they get the opposite reaction.