Yesterday I realized why the Democrats will fail in 2004...

[Vernunft]

Too many people in that party do not take the concerns that less utopian voters have seriously. Instead they are ridiculed by self proclaimed experts... People don´t want to make felt like idiots, they want their concerns heard and considered. Sad but true. My vote will still be cast democrat but I have no hope left.

[ClintonTyree]

1. Yeah, everybody here...................

is an expert, well I shouldn't lump them all in that category but there are many. You're correct, they belittle people to make themselves appear bigger I guess. Don't give up, I'm still hoping that a vast majority of Dems can put aside their differences come next fall and boot Bush back to Texas. If we don't we're royally screwed. Hang in there.

[Vernunft]

3. I´ve been saying that to myself

but yesterday was an eye opener...

[cyclezealot]

2. You are reacting to Dems at DU and not Ann Coulter.

Sounds like something Coulter would say..Yes, I do think liberals are more determined to get the bottom and not believe what we are told to believe.
I just think it is the media upon which so many are hooked is so awful, we are screwed... Look to the depth of a real intellecutual such as Noam Chomskey...He presents his ideas in a take it or leave fashion. He does not force his views or ideas and certainly does not come across as a snob.. His voice is one of intellectual curiosity, promoting democratic ideas, and the well being of people..
If some DU members are overzealous, I don't see it out in the general public...Yes, we must as Michael Mooore says connect with the middle class(if there is any left) at Bowling alleys or wherever.
It is a matter of style not substance. As to being utopian..I think everyone wants a better society for our future generations.That is America's present disappointment.It is just how we state it...

[rbnyc]

4. First...

By stating that Democrats will fail in 2004, you help to create that reality. It's just as destructive as the behavior you're calling out. Second, this is THE LOUNGE!

;-)

EDIT: Also, a question? What's your FIRST language?

[Melodybe]

5. I agree rbnyc, Dems saying this only helps Rove!

Register some voters Vernunft, it will make feel a lot better.

[Vernunft]

8. I try that and have moderate success

So far I convinced 2 people who have never voted in their entire life to get registred. They´ll both vote Dean. It´s hard when your contacts are mainly in an environment that´s violently anti-politics such as the Heavy Metal scene.

[Vernunft]

6. My first language is german...

Why, is my english so bad ? *g*

About the issue at hand, the loss of the 2004 election is as sure as rivers running to the sea if Dems keep alienating potential voters. Since I don´t see any change in behaviour (and trust me, it´s not just here at DU) I´m stating my sad conclusion to my observation.

Riding on anti-Bush is not enough to win.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

7. Ich spreche auch Deutsch .

[Vernunft]

9. Und sogar ziemlich gut :-)

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

10. Ich spreche Deutsch nur mit meinem Freund .

Aber in Januar fliege ich nach Hause . Ich freut mich sehr nach Hause zu kommen . Seit 2001 bin ich in Deutschland . Aber ich finde die ( I think " die " ) Musik ist echte SCHEISS !

[Vernunft]

11. Ich bin ja Deutscher.

Meine Frau ist Amerikanerin, sie spricht auch schon ganz gut deutsch. Sie ist seit April 2001 hier in Deutschland.
Mit "Musik" ist Scheisse meinst Du den üblichen Müll der auf VIVA und MTV gespielt wird ? Wir hören das kaum. Wir sind beide Heavy Metal und Classic Rock Fans, hehehe.