Most idiotic "fat"/emaciated reality show choice EVER!

[BlooInBloo]

Guess which one got kicked off?

What utter and complete jackasses.

EDIT: Forgot links to the story. Oops.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=416341&in_page_id=1879

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=418780&in_page_id=1773

[THUNDER HANDS]

1. wow

The woman on top is disgusting.

The woman on the bottom is stunning.

[Midnight Rambler]

2. In what universe is she too fat?

As a shallow, superficial male, I say that Jem Hunter looks great. Anyone who thinks she's too fat needs to be beaten with a sledgehammer.

[lonestarnot]

4. What size are those feet? Clydesdale?

[noamnety]

25. proving the point

that there is not one body part on a woman that isn't subject to scrutiny and ridicule.

And we wonder why women can't accept themselves.

[LynneSin]

43. As someone who has large feet, I take offense!!

Seriously - Jen Hunter is absolutely stunning and I love those shoes. I too have size 11 feet but love great footwear. I might also mention that Paris Hilton is also a size 11.

[Bassic]

42. I agree nt

[Matariki]

3. size 0?

it's like some obsession to make women disappear.

[BanzaiBonnie]

5. BINGO

I think we have a winner.

Isn't this all really about hatred of women and curvy womanly bodies that can gestate babies?

[Drum]

12. Heh! Not here. nt

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

36. I can wear a size 0 sometimes. I look nothing like that top pic.

God, I don't even think a 00 would be small enough for her.

[ProfessorGAC]

50. She Looks Like A Minus 3

Geez, my wife was a little bitty thing for many years and wore size one. And she never even bore the slightest resemblance to that woman in the picture. That woman's legs look like pipe cleaners. That looks unhealthy to me. It looks like there is barely any muscle mass to take stress off the joints.
The Professor

[Phillycat]

74. Oh, bullshit.

Please don't start this. Some women are naturally thin, just as some women are naturally bigger. There is no reason to disparage someone for being a size 0. I wear a 0 sometimes and I'm perfectly healthy.

[Hippo_Tron]

6. Where do they get the impression that men looking at size 0 models?

I remember this with the case of Lindsay Lohan. Whoever told her to lose weight shouldn't be working in show business. She nearly ruined her career because of anorexia.

[Matariki]

7. it's not about men

it's about making women feel inadequate by bombarding them with these images of something impossible (and undesirable) to achieve by almost every woman - so they'll fell compelled to BUY stuff.

compare women in "men's" magazines to women in "women's" magazines.

[BlooInBloo]

17. Obviously not, since men, by a vast majority, don't dig that.

[sakabatou]

34. And it still seems her choices for some roles

still suck.

[Left Is Write]

60. That girl in the top photo is no size 0.

More like triple 0.

[ProfessorGAC]

64. Fashion Designers Want Human Clothes Hangers

They're not interested in you looking at the woman. They want you looking at the clothing. The less there is to look at, the more you look at the clothes. It's got nothing to do with sexy, i think. The only reason they don't use mannequins is that they can't have a dress dummy walk up and down the runway.
The professor

[uppityperson]

8. that poor woman on top.

[progdonkey]

9. I would crawl through broken glass to be able to take the bottom girl to dinner...

and I would do the same to get the hell away from the other girl! :puke:

[Drum]

13. True dat!

Very well put. :thumbsup:

[Midnight Rambler]

15. How about just give her a joint?

And wait for the munchies to set in. Then, take her to Krispy Kreme.

[XemaSab]

24. Also, the girl on the bottom might actually

EAT the dinner. :P

[Odin2005]

10. In what universe is the hottie on the bottom fat?

She looks positively stunning.

[K8-EEE]

11. K&R for female body image study....

Wow we are really twisted.

[WindRavenX]

14. second girl = goddess

:wow:

[Odin2005]

28. Yep!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[InvisibleTouch]

16. Very seldom do I ever feel that a woman is "too thin"...

...being rather on the thin side myself - but the woman in the top picture, I'm sorry, is too thin. Painfully so.

[amitten]

27. Oh yeah...she's WAAAAAAY too thin. Like, almost-dead-thin.

Pretty sad.

[Mythsaje]

18. The girl on the top is frightening...

The ONLY thing I could say about the girl on the bottom is that she could use a little more muscle tone on her arms. She's gorgeous.

[ironflange]

19. A Hefty bag full of antlers

[GirlinContempt]

20. That swimsuit pic was sick

[BuelahWitch]

21. The woman on top is only 18?

I thought she was about 40...:hide:

[evilkumquat]

22. The Last Time I Saw Legs Like Those on the Top Model...

...someone had dropped a house on them.

Evil Kumquat

[Matariki]

23. I think was was an extra in Pirates of the Caribbean

[XemaSab]

26. Dear sweet JESUS!!!!

Okay, the girl on the bottom could have a little more tone, but the girl on top... shit, I thought we liberated the concentration camps after the war! :wow: (and on edit, they're flipped around here)

[seemunkee]

38. Thighs of a godess on the top one

She fills out the suit nicely and makes it look good.
The other one makes the suit look like it is sagging.

[Writer]

29. Jesus... this needs to stop!

1) If you're trying to lose weight, a healthy weight is NOT a size 0! Doctors expect you to aim for a HEALTHY weight, not a model's weight! Size 12 all the way!

2) If I can count your ribs, then you very much need to see your doctor. Right away.

3) What is a "stone?" Brits, can you help me here? Can I guess 20 lbs.?

4) This makes me angry because I believe people get defensive about their weight because they think the clinical expectations ARE to be like a model! Wrong - it's to be healthy! Like Ms. Hunter here.

5) I would love to see more curvy models. What happened to them? When Cindy Crawford walked the runway she was a size 8! Today she would be considered too large.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! This stuff drives me nuts!

[sakabatou]

35. 1 stone = 14 lbs.

[Writer]

51. Thank you!

:hi:

[Left Is Write]

65. Two things.

1. I wear a size 0 to 2, depending on brand. I am not an unhealthy weight. I am 5'4" and 115 pounds. Not unhealthy at all.

2. You could probably count my ribs if you saw me in a bikini. It's the way I'm built. I do not need to see my doctor about it.

[Writer]

72. If you're healthy, then you're healthy! Why even worry about it?

I am 5'8" and have weighed as little as 125 lbs. as an adult (I'm now around 150 or so.) When I was 125 lbs. friends and family thought I was emaciated, but I was athletic and felt quite good. And I constantly endured the torment of my not so thin friends. I was treated as a freak because I was THIN.

But what I see above on that girl, who doesn't even weight 90 lbs., is not healthy!

Why do people get so defensive about this, when health and not weight is the issue?

[Left Is Write]

75. I am responding to your assertion that size 0 is NOT healthy...

and that if you can count a person's ribs, she needs to see a doctor.

I am using myself personally to refute such blanket statements. I am a size 0 with visible, countable ribs.

[Writer]

78. Oh good grief. I don't know many Size 0 women, and you...

obviously are that one exception. I live in Colorado which has nationally the lowest average BMI index in the country. Even then, I don't see many Size 0 women. Count yourself as a pleasantly petite exception. I am certain that when you don a swimsuit you don't look like the chick above. When I was at my thinnest, I had a few ribs showing, too, but not like that! In my mind, she's at least 5'7" tall but still wears your size. How can that be healthy?

On edit: P.S. The smallest I've ever been, at 5'8" tall and 115 lbs. at 19 years-old, was a size 4 to 6. If I were your height at that age, I'd probably be a size 0, too, and would be snapping at people for judging me, too! But I still got judged, anyway. Thin women can't win, either. I have received eyerolls by women at the gym, cluck-clucks about my eating nothing but celery. I look at them and think they look fine. I think keeping a bell curve of average weight in mind is a good thing - some will be on one extreme or the other.

[Left Is Write]

79. No, I don't look like her, and that's the point.

I am certainly not that "one" exception - there are lots of women built like me. I just get sick of people harping about "size 0" and the old saw that visible ribs or "the ladder" on one's chest are sure signs of malnutrition.

People throw around the "size 0" benchmark often as the hallmark of anorexia. Do I think it's silly that any size has to be called "0" at all? Sure. But there's nothing inherently wrong with being size 0.

I was anorexic at one time. Believe me, I know the difference between unhealthy and healthy. If I gained enough weight to obscure my "ladder" and my ribs, I'd be overweight.

[Writer]

80. Congrats for successfully battling anorexia!

That must have been a hard battle, but it sounds like you have overcome it! :)

I wish we would keep in mind HEALTH and not WEIGHT. When I discuss weight with overweight people, it's a lose-lose situation. I mean, there is nothing that I can say that expresses to them: "Hey, you don't have to look like Kate Moss, but you need to mind what carrying all that extra weight is NOT good for your health!"

This topic is so personal for some.

[Sanity Claws]

93. Sizes have changed.

That was my height and weight a few years ago. I used to wear 6 petite or 4 regular.
Yes, that is a healthy weight for a woman.

[Left Is Write]

94. Yes, I know.

At 18 and 102 pounds, I was wearing a size 5.

[Phillycat]

76. Your comment is completely wrong.

If I was a size 12, my doctor would put me on a diet. I would be obese.

Secondly, you can see my ribs if I don't have a shirt on. It's the way I'm built. I also have visible stomach muscles. I am not emaciated or starving, it's just my body.

You are being disparaging to a whole other group of women while trying to protect the first group. Why?

[Writer]

81. You know, no one can fucking win on this topic!

How tall are you? Doesn't that also play into this? If you're 5'9", you may have a problem. If you're nice and petite, then that's how you're made! You may have ribs showing, but are they like the chick above? And, most importantly, ARE YOU HEALTHY?

[Phillycat]

83. Erm...

yes, I am healthy. I am responding to your factually inaccurate comment above, that "anyone" who is not a size 12, or "anyone" who has visible ribs, is unhealthy. I am saying that is not true.

[Writer]

88. You know, I'm looking down now, and I see a few ribs...

and I'm now a rather full Size 8. I don't mean to demean the "Size 0" crowd, in the same way that I don't mean to demean the "Size 16+" crowd, or any other weight crowd in this thread. No statement is perfect, because there always is the exception to the rule. I'm sorry, but Size 0 is on the left side of the bell curve of average sizes in the US. It is not a usual size. And I am a reasonable enough person to understand that typically a person who is that size is healthy, but more petite than normal and necessitates a smaller size lest their pants will not fit. However, when I look at the chick in the picture above, I'm think, "that women is a Size 0 model? That is unhealthy!" - not because she is a Size 0, but because she is tall and therefore looks dangerously thin.

[Evoman]

30. The girl on the bottom does NOT need to be more "toned"!

Shes absolutely breath-taking as she is. Hell, if I was gonna say ANYTHING about the girl at the bottom, is that she could use a bigger badonkadonk (and that would be stupid of me, because I can't even see it lol...but you can always use MORE!!!). The one on the top would probably be better if she was a healthier weight, but she is just too skinny for me.

Goddamnit...maybe its because I'm a latino who appreciates healthy women.....you haters need to stop criticizing my girl on the bottom.

[XemaSab]

31. In the bathing suit picture

there's about a half pound extra lurking there, but since the camera lies, I'm sure it's an illusion. :shrug:

[Evoman]

33. No. No extra half pound.

Perfect. Good. Fine.

And its not that I'm not superficial....I'm completely superficial. But I think shes fine.

[XemaSab]

32. ooops... double post

[PVnRT]

37. Fat Actress

*runs*

[crim son]

39. Girl on top: way too thin.

Girl on bottom: thunder thighs. That is all.

On edit: as a girl and a young woman who all her life was deemed "too thin to be attractive" I fucking hate these threads. Some of us are naturally thin. We wish we had the big caboose and the tits, but we don't. And to the men who like to see it jiggle, fortunately for you there is a hell of a lot of adipose tissue out there for you to grab hold of. Sigh. Thank god for the few men who don't mind seeing a rib or two.

[Pithlet]

56. "thunder thighs?"

Sorry. Without that comment you might have had me as a fellow skinny girl who grew up with comments like that. Now, it's hard to imagine why you're so indignant about comments judging a woman's body when you've just done the same thing.

[crim son]

58. Sorry I've lost you as a pal.

I was merely being as offensive as everybody else.

[Pithlet]

66. I do apologize.

I'm sure those who made the comments you took offense at will see yours and suddenly see the error of their ways.

[GirlinContempt]

61. I don't think the disgust

is for naturally thin girls, but the body type of an obviously undernourished person. It looks SICK, literally. One of my friends is incredibly thin, she gets comments too, but she doesn't look like she is about to die, she's naturally very thin.

[Left Is Write]

67. That's why I don't like blanket comments deriding size 0 girls...

or girls with visible ribs.

Not all size 0s with visible ribs are sick or anorexic or emaciated.

(And I know you didn't say that, this just seemed a good place to put it.)

[GirlinContempt]

69. Yeah I hear ya

My sister is a size 0 in some things, she doesn't look on the brink of death by any means

[crim son]

73. Oh, I know.

But it disturbs me to see the vehemence with which well-rounded girls hurl insults and taunts at those of us who are not voluptuous. With all the PC talk on the board, I'm surprised at how overt is the prejudice against being thin. From my vantage point, it's the heavier women who are more accepted by society, not the thin girls. And for what it's worth, a model is a model. She is not supposed to be the ideal weight; she's supposed to be gaunt and otherworldly. I don't for one instant compare myself with the skeletal model and she's clearly thin to the point of being ill; but in my very humble opinion the other woman looks chunky to me. If you all can see thin where I see normal, it shouldn't surprise that I see fat where you see physically perfect.

My irritation is apparent in my post. I don't mean to offend, but I did :shrug:

On edit: That's a lie. I was being offensive. I apologize.

[Writer]

89. THANK YOU!

Once more, f'ing identity politics.

[LostinVA]

92. Exactly -- I said this is another post

I have friends who are naturally very thin -- they don't look like this... and, I just don't mean their bodies -- I mean THEM. You can tell they're healthy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

40. the less public space women occupy...the more 'attractive' they are deemed

both in terms of body/personality

[Bassic]

41. Who in their right fucking mind can think the woman at the top has a greadt body?

She seriously looks like she's about to kneel over and die.

[LostinVA]

44. She honestly looks borderline concentration camp victim

Seriously.... she isn't thin... or skinny... she's emaciated and very unhealthy.

The woman on the bottom does NOT have "thunder thighs."

Good grief.

[Bassic]

45. Can you imagine the strain she puts on her body?

And she is encouraged to do so by those idiots telling her she has a great body. Why do so many big shots of the fashion industry want their female models to look like prepubescent boys?

[LostinVA]

47. It totally confuses me, too -- and it is relatively ne

This emaciated look.

As I've said, I have some skinny friends, who eat and eat to try to gain weight (damn them!)... but skinny healthy does not look like this...

Did you see her in the swimsuit? Very, very sad...

[Bassic]

48. I did, and I must say

I almost wish I hadn't

I also have skinny friends, both male and female, the difference is they don't starve temselves, and therefore don't look starved. And their bones don't protrude quite like that.

[LostinVA]

49. That's a great way to put it: they don't look starved

There is a certain look to people who are starved.

[Connonym]

59. I think that look is called hunger n/t

[unpossibles]

90. not anymore. It's "food insecure" or something.

As someone who has been both skinny and heavy, yet still (barely) within both extremes of my 'normal' weight range, these conversations drive me nuts. For one thing, I got made fun of - often by the same people, and even more often by family - for BOTH bring too skinny and being too fat! Generally, I think it's fucked up, and it really saddens me when people can't accept themselves - or worse, can't accept others - for who they are. I'm not

Sure, make an effort to be healthy; I can respect that. I can also respect that everyone has different tastes in people, but come on! "Thunder thighs"?!? Fuck that. Yes, the top girl looks emaciated, but she looks like she forces herself to look that way.

[LostinVA]

46. Remember, too, that a size 12 in the UK is not a size 12 here

It's a 10. So, she's even smaller than you may have first thought.

[China_cat]

52. And here a size 10

is now being sold in the 'big' women's departments.

[LostinVA]

55. Really? That's insane

[China_cat]

68. Yeah it is but

you're almost socially acceptable at size 8 and a size 6 will get you all kinds of warnings to watch your weight. Anything over a 6 will impact on your ability to get a job that calls for face to face customer relations (outside of being a retail clerk) and will be a considering factor in your professional life.

[Pithlet]

70. My God, where do you live?

:scared:

[China_cat]

71. South Carolina

Not exactly a fashion capital. It just reflects the attitudes of the rest of the country.

[RevolutionaryActs]

53. Holy crap, the woman on the bottom is freaking gorgeous!!

:wow:


I bet the one on top would be really pretty too, if she didn't look so sick. :(

[BarenakedLady]

54. Wow

And people wonder why so many women have eating disorders. :eyes:

[jmowreader]

57. They're not looking for SUPERmodels but for RUNWAY models

There is a difference. And for runway modeling, Jen is a bit too heavy. Just a bit, but too heavy nonetheless. (The girl at the top is way past the point of "slender" and is approaching "Darfur resident" proportions.)

What she needs to do is to take her well-proportioned, absolutely fantastic body, which is more than suitable for almost all other kinds of modeling, put it and her book on the first plane to JFK, and start hitting places like Elite and Ford. Jen isn't a runway model anyway. She's a print model, and if her voice is good she'd be a good television model too. If she knows how to act, she'd be great in movies too.

Jen is a girl who could easily command a $3000 day rate and work 200 days a year for the next fifteen years because she's got what I consider the most important attribute of a good model: her image will sell product because every man in America would kill to have a wife/girlfriend who looks like her. If she's selling something, it must be good. (Hell, I'd love to have her in my kitchen department because I think she'd move a lot of installs.)

The girl at the top? About half of all runway models are scary-looking women, and she's definitely a frightening presence. Too fucking skinny, no face, shitty haircut and that lipstick has GOT to go. Five hundred day rate, max, three weeks of work a year at the big Fashion Weeks and she'll work for five years before she gets just a hair too saggy and the phone rings no more.

It's good Jen lost. Now she can get a real modeling job.

[Rob H.]

62. Jen is hawt

She's definitely got that curvy, va-va-va-voom thing goin' on. What's even scarier is how different they look in swimsuits--the judges told Marianne she has a "sensational" body for modelling? :wtf:

[jus_the_facts]

63. One of my best friends looks like the top one...she's 5'5'' and 84lbs....

....she's dying and there's nothing I can do to help her...she refuses all advice and wallows in self pity and depression...she finally found a way to show everyone how miserable she's always been on the inside. :cry:

[Phillycat]

77. Jen is definitely too heavy to do runway work. Her thighs are too big.

I don't know why people get so upset about that. :shrug: It's not like anyone's forced to try to be a model.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

82. people get upset because models are considered societies ideal form of beauty

and idealizing anorexia may not be very healthy especially for young girls...

[Phillycat]

87. Considered ideal by whom?

I think models look the way they're supposed to - like human clothing hangers. They have a certain body type that clothes look best draped around. You basically have to be a genetic anomaly to be built like a model - very tall, and very small-boned. Just like you have to be a genetic anomaly to play professional basketball, but you don't hear people bitching about not being 6'10" with a certain muscular structure. Or bitching about people who ARE that size and height.

[last_texas_dem]

91. I guess what confuses me

is just the idea that clothing *does* look the best on the small segment of the population with that type of body. Obviously, the tradition started somewhere so some important people must have thought this and continued thinking it for this to become the rule in the fashion industry. I don't really care about fashion myself, so I'm sure I'm oblivious to most of the customs and whys of how things are in that industry. But I guess I would just disagree that the particular, almost impossible to attain, type of body that has been deemed acceptable by the fashion industry for runway models really does the appeal of their clothing any favors. I'd personally rather see people who look healthy and attractive modeling clothing; I would think that would put the clothing in the best light- and I would think most people would feel that way. (Then again, I'm not planning on wearing anything being modeled by the female runway models being discussed- 'cause, like I said, 1) I'm a guy and 2) I don't care about fashion- so maybe that's why they don't care about the opinion of people like me! haha)

[last_texas_dem]

84. That's bizarre...

I'm always surprised at how warped the standards for being a model have become (and really, they seem to be staying the same or getting worse). If models are supposed to be advertising or showing clothing off, wouldn't it make sense to pick a person to wear them who more people find appealing?

Also, I'm surprised at how many think the second woman's thighs are big. Maybe they're proportionally bigger than those of women who have a different body type, but I'm willing to bet there are a good number of women (if not a majority) who, at a healthy weight, have a similar body type to the second model. Maybe I'm just partial to the "pear" shape, but I think the thighs are part of what makes the second model have a great body. She's just a very attractive woman. The fashion industry is really messed-up.

[Deja Q]

85. The one wearing the prison suit is gross...

Now she's not half bad.

[begin_within]

86. So they had to wrap blue tape around her just to keep her from falling apart?