If Kerry loses in November...

[jtb33]

Who do you think we'll have running on the ticket in 2008?

Difficulty: no sarcastic replies please :p

[DaveFL99]

1. Fluffy Edwards

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. Mike Tyson

[stevestills]

71. If Kerry Loses

Cheney & Bush go at it in the Oval Office ... This time no Pretzel story.. Bush in coma - Cheney In Charge Here!


BUT HERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION

Who is to be Pardoned and Why.. when Bush loses?

Rice - Anything related to 9-11.
Dumbsfeld - Anything related to Iraq.
Ashenkruppen General - For breathing.
Powell - For being Black when Bush is White.

[Skittles]

54. ya know, Dave

"Fluffy" is how I describe Edwards too. He just strikes me as fluffy.

[RC]

3. Sarcastic replies probably will be correct.

Jeb Bu$h/Joe Lieberman

[DaveFL99]

12. I wasn't being sarcastic. Derragatory but not sarcastic.

[movonne]

4. We cannot lose, there will be no Democratic Party...you saw what

Tom Delay did in Texas. This will go on in every state. The only way that if Kerry does not win, will be to take back the Senate and House.

[howie_1]

15. Bush lied again.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5651884/?#040816b
If The GOP keeps putting out ads like this one accuseing Kerry of Flip Floping Kerry wins big.. Liars almost always lose.

[artimus]

24. no suprise.....

no suprise....if you look back at the last 6 elections you see a pattern of lies,double-speak and distortions comming out of the republican party.its become so intertwined into their party because they know the true face of republuican party is too frightening and digusting for the public to see.but this isnt exactly news to anyone here.....

[thenorthstar]

33. Hillary Clinton

But I don't know who the running mate would be...any guesses?

[Progressive420]

38. Wes Clark

[Freddie Stubbs]

48. Liars almost always lose?

How many elections has Bush lost? Far fewer than he he has won.

[friesianrider]

31. And the scary part is...

Because Bush wants a second term, he's restrained himself hoping to appear "moderate". I shudder to think what a second term will bring once he can really let loose...

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[WI_DEM]

5. Not Edwards

He will be identified with a losing ticket in a year that many democrats feel could have been won. He may try to run, but I doubt he would make it. My guess is that Hillary R. Clinton would certainly run and would be a formidible candidate. If Kerry loses it will be because voters will not have made a broad enough distinction between himself and Bush, so I would guess with his nationwide organization that Howard Dean might try again.

However, having said all of this I think Kerry/Edwards will win.

[smada]

6. Asking for no sarcastic replies

is one sure way to get MANY sarcastic replies.

I'm voting for J.Lo because she's sexy and she'll be old enough by then.

[Wickerman]

7. John Cusack

why the hell not? At that point we would have nothing to lose - we wouldn't have a pol that wasn't totally ravaged by the state run media - he would be our only chance at name recognition. Not that we need something apocolyptic for him to venture into politics - when he comes in, and I think he will, be will be an excellent Dem.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. Kerry will win in November and in 2008.

[saltpoint]

9. Kerry/Edwards will defeat Bush.

For 2012, maybe the party will look to people like:

Edwards
Hillary
Bill Richardson
Evan Bayh

--but I hope we might instead see:

Jack Reed
Barack Obama
Shelia Jackson Lee
Howard Dean
Russ Feingold
etc

[FloridaPat]

10. There will be no election in 2008 if * retains control. The USA

is barely alive now.

[p0sitivevibez]

49. yeah

There will be no more elections if Bush/Hitler win in 2008. Theyll say "only communist terrorist want elections", outlaw them in some strongarm congress tactic, and plunge us into fascism as were already starting to head. Im not even sure well win this one, I mean look how easily they stole the Florida election? And the new voting machines are manufactured by a hardcore right winger, I wouldnt put it past him to cheat the elction via his machines.

[AndyTiedye]

11. If Kerry Loses It's All Over

The BFEE will have an airtight grip on power
as they crank up the draft to fuel both their police state at home
and their Crusade abroad.

Not so much a draft as a hurricane.

Elections? Suspended "for the duration".

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[Dem_Loyalist]

36. Or maybe when chimpy gets bored

he will hand it over to his brother jeb?

I should say "try" to because we can not let it happen. One stolen election is already way too many.

[tsuki]

57. No,

I think the Repubs will implode. Bush will utterly destroy the party.

[Dagaz]

14. Edwards

Hillary will run but fall short since she's unelectable on a National scale. I can see Gore and Dean giving it a shot but they look like they're over. Ed Rendell would be an interesting sleeper.

[BrooklynRider]

16. A Kerry loss will be the loss of our country to a military cabal

[stevestills]

72. A Kerry loss will be the loss of our country to a military cabal

I would disagree..

I don't think the Military wants Bush in office.. look at what he has done?

Bush treats the Military as his private toy Army. The Military by their admission are stretched to thin, and are now unable to ensure our safety, if a Campaign in another part of the World ensues. The US Military never wants to be in THAT position.. and takes it personal.. how this President places them in THAT tenuous position.

Bush refuses to listen to Military experts, and entrusts his secret Energy Policy directives... to set Military Foreign Policy. The Military is sick of this.

The CIA & FBI have had it with this President. Being blamed for
9-11 when they were told to lay off the Saudis, and Al-Quida. Can you imagine how sick all those agents were watching the Towers fall.. knowing what they knew... and then.. being forced to take the blame for their "failure"?

Seriously... the only wedge Kerry has to stop Bush from "altering" this election is to have the CIA & FBI let Bush know they will force him with the facts.. to come clean.. if he again relies on the "Supremacist's in the Court" for another an-noting.

[Juicy crone]

17. If Kerry looses

I hate to even consider that Kerry would lose, but Hillary and Obama would be the ticket.
One question, I am new and cannot post, but want to get some answers.
Why are the veterans voting for Bush when he is slashing veterans health care and other benefits?

[ASanders84]

18. They don't know or they are too naive to believe it.

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[RodneyCK2]

23. Blind loyalty maybe, but who knows why.

I have a lot of questions to ask people voting for * along these lines. I just do not get their think.

[franmarz]

75. Kerry didnt slash veterans health care

There happens to be bills for vets benefits, but is so laden with pork, that the best thing to do is vote against and try to submit a bill devoid of all the extra crap. That is when a nay vote can be construed to be against voting for a very beneficial bill. I can only hope that we get a better deal all around when elections are over, I,m voting for Kerry all the way.

[MaryBear]

19. Kerry will win!

Both times.

[UrbScotty]

20. Something tells me Dean/Clark. (nt)

[notbush]

21. I think Dean will be back!!!!!!!

[Larkspur]

37. Regardless of what happens this Nov. 2, we need Dean

rebuilding the Dem Party from the grassroots up.

[franmarz]

22. If Kerry looses in November

We-the great unwashed public- will be screwed. Lets not count on loosing this election to Republicans.

[Lablover]

25. I believe we will run Hillery

I believe we will run Hillery.

[artimus]

26. no way....

no way...the rnc already has its attck plan all worked out against hillary.

[thenorthstar]

34. Hillary

Why would we not put her on a ticket? She has already been in the White House, she has her own political career...she is loved by the women in America...

Not to mention its the first time a women has had this much influence in politics at the national level. Not running Hillary would be a mistake!

[PVnRT]

27. Edwards/Obama

n/t

[gospelized]

28. if bush "wins" again

i'll be in toronto by the end of the year.

[friesianrider]

30. LOL...

Ditto!

[shrumbody]

39. Ever Been In TO

in the wintertime? By that I mean all of the months except July & August. Might be better to take your chances down here. LOL.

[radiclib]

29. Seriously?

If the Democratic Party manages to lose to this simpering baboon and his band of blatant criminals, it should be dissolved.

[grace0418]

32. I have to wonder

If there will be elections in 2008 if Bush steals the White House again. If it wasn't such a horrifying notion, when Bush turns this country into a military dictatorship I would take some measure of glee at telling Bush supporters "TOLD YOU SO!"

But anyway, if there are elections in 2008 and they're not a complete farce, I would love to see Barack Obama on the ticket. I don't care who else runs.

[NoodleBoy]

35. hm...

Will the Hillary Clinton president speculations ever stop? It's like some of us are thinking,

"Hmm... who can we run for President, who is hated by much of the country, has been hated by much of the country for a long time, has a hyphenated last name which makes them hate her even more, and would allow the Republican party to not spend any money on a campaign, instead letting their hordes of right-wing radio hosts, TV comentators and newspaper editors do the bashing, ranting and sliming for them? Hmm..."

That said, if Kerry wins or not, I think Russ Feingold should one day be President, if that means running in 2008 or beyond.

[shrumbody]

40. If Kerry Loses, It Would Be

the 9th Dem loss in 14 presidential election cycles going back to 1952. If JFK can't beat the Bush this year, we might as well fold up the national party tent-the neocons will have convinced everyone and progressives might as well leave for Europe or elsewhere! Get ready for the "ownership society" and no more safety nets.

[DuaneBidoux]

41. I watched Bill Clinton chat on Letterman and thought

God I miss that man. I think the single biggest thing Democrats should pay attention to is watching the candidates sit down and chat with folks and pay attention how clear, simple, and crisp he/she is in a conversational style and how well he/she CONNECTS. I fear this is something that Kerry does not do well. I believe Edwards is currently the person most closely like Clinton in the Connecting department. And I'm becoming convinced that this "connecting" is a good predictor of electability.

[JPJones]

42. There won't be an election in 2008 if Kerry loses n/t

[abrock]

43. Assuming we still get to have elections in 2008: Clinton/Obama or Clrk/Edw

[MattPinNC]

44. Clinton/Clark

with:

UN Amb : Bill
Atty. Gen : Edwards
Sec Defense : Kerry

vvv

[obiwan]

45. Don't know but I'll mail you a postcard from Toronto.

[gtar100]

46. The leader of the Second American Revolution.

A 2008 election if bush wins will be unlikely. If bush wins, the next question will be how long we can take it before we *really* can't take it anymore. 2004 is the last chance for the flame of democracy in the US to burn. Do we have the fuel to keep it going? People died for our liberty. Are there Americans alive today who would do the same as those who lived here in the 1700's?

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[plax3]

50. he won't

Don't even think about that.

[AntiFascist]

51. Washington D.C.....

will lie in ruins.

[wakawaka]

52. I'm not hopeful

While I'd like nothing better than to be proven wrong, I think it is most likely Bush will take power once again. Republicans may be too powerful to stop at this point. In the last 4 years we have seen the triumph of ideology over fact, experience and reason. In this 'election' we are like likely to see the victory of deceit.

Too much of the country has been "Limbaughtomized" and duped by the most insidiously effective propaganda machine since the third Reich.

[ArtVandaley]

53. No way of telling

No way of telling what this country would be like in 4 years if Bush serves again, so there's no way of guessing what kind of candidate would be needed. Certainly though, it's too grim a situation to even think about. Kerry has to win in Nov. Case closed. Anything else will cause too much damage to even comprehend right now.

[mahina]

55. When Kerry WINS in November,

he's going to need a Dem house and senate to avoid the snake pit the repubs dealt Clinton. So give a little $, and some time, to your imperfect but beloved Dem senator or congresscritter today! The country you save may be your own.

[tsuki]

58. No, I think

he can pull it off without a clear majority in the house and senate. This time the Repubs will be too busy COA, esp with the scandals of DeLay and the like.

[Ellen of Troy]

56. Boxer-Edwards, Richardson, old vets-- not Hillary

I hate to even contemplate this possibility, but if we can survive 4 more Bush years and avoid a nuclear war, my own personal favorite would be a Barbara Boxer-John Edwards ticket. Solid experience, smart policy, and good geographical mix. Bill Richardson's also appealing for the nomination, maybe Edwards. Janet Napolitano might be a dark horse, or maybe one of the grizzled veterans (Daschle, Gore, Clark, Gephardt)-- I suspect the first two especially might perform well, and Gore's been such a thunderously strong critic of Dubya's mad policies these days that he brings crowds to their feet. Clark's experience and knowledge of the military also very helpful with terrorism as an issue.

One person I would not like to see on the 2008 ticket is Hillary Clinton. I used to be a major fan of Hillary, but all my support for her drained out after that cowardly performance on the Iraq war she gave in late 2002. One could fairly forgive Kerry and Edwards for voting to authorize the war on Iraq since they knew they were running for President in 2004, weren't widely known, and had to deal with the pro-war heat of the moment. But Hillary was not running and so had the luxury of doing the right thing with her vote, since by 2008 the immediate jingoism of the moment would fade and people would be able to look back more rationally on the proposed war. And everyone in the know, all the experts and analysts with the right background, knew Iraq would be a disaster if invaded, even early in 2002.

Moreover because of Hillary's name recognition and stature she was maybe the only person in Congress who could halt the rush to war and bring about a time-out to cool down and think about it. But not only did she vote "YEA" for the war resolution, she even repeated the same jingoistic madness that Dubya used to justify the invasion, claiming that there was no time for inspections and the US had to invade that poor country to get rid of WMDs that were nonexistent, and which even in 2002 thinking people had serious doubts about. At least Daschle, despite his vote, voiced grave doubts about the wisdom of the war and tried to spark debate, and Robert Byrd fought courageously to halt the resolution-- I've never admired him more. But Hillary just capitulated to Bush and showed off her hawk feathers.

It was a sickening performance, and at a time when she had a chance to show leadership she demonstrated a lack of it. I'm a reasonable person and can tolerate a degree of political expediency, but not when someone sells out the country, our young people, and the poor victims in Iraq so blatantly like that for political ambition, especially when it seemed so gratuitous and unnecessary-- since Hillary wasn't running in 2004, she had nothing to gain by so slavishly bending to the will of Dubya. But she tagged along with his mad plans, and now my kids may well be draft fodder in a couple years if we're still stuck in Iraq and low on troops. If Hillary is nominated for the Democratic ticket in 2008, there will be throngs of lifelong Democrats bolting to a third party. What she did on Iraq was awful and inexcusable.

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[dressleft2]

60. obama and ???

Barak Obama kicks ass!

[12ss1kp]

61. NO

Kerry won't lose because the polls will be fixed and we will march and protest with all our means until justice is done.

[leyton]

62. I hope Gore would try again. And what about Harold Ford?

Gore could pull a Nixon (including the re-election landslide minus the impeachment). Obama, Edwards, and Hillary are names I see bandied about, but I think Obama would be too inexperienced in 2004 and Hillary too divisive. What about Harold Ford? I guess I'm rooting for two Tennesseeans here, but hey, a guy can dream.

[Pump Man]

64. Boy I like that fella well-spoken

 Ford-Obama yes I am white-male also southener

[Pump Man]

63. When KERRY serve two terms John-Boy will be ready

that is how that blog should read

[thoughtanarchist]

65. Loosing is not an option...

Even then the brunt of the work is not done. We need to re-open our society. It is a HUGE problem that the same multinationals to whom you pay your bills each month are drafting our legislation. (insert your favorite Enron / GE / Haliburton rant here) Seperating the $$ from the $y$tem is crucial to preserving our democracy. If unchecked it only gets worse. Note that the media deregulation enacted under Reagan went uncorrected throughout the entire Clinton presidency. Now we're boycotting Sinclair when a single entity never should have been allowed to hold this degree of public sway.

We need to hold JFK's feet to the fire once he's in to shore up our freedoms while it's still possible to do so.

[eridani]

66. Wrong question

If Kerry loses, what are we planning to do to make it impossible for the Republicans to govern?

[Is It Fascism Yet]

68. If Kerry loses

If Kerry loses there will be no elections in 2008, for we will be living in a complete dictatorship.

[Pump Man]

70. KERRY WILL WIN. I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF LOSING

votehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749

[superblah]

73. This post is useless

because Kerry will win in 2004. And after 4 years of him and Edwards, he'll win 2008 in a landslide.

[JudyM]

74. Don't stand by and let him lose! HELPKERRYWIN.com

We can still make this happen. Send this site around to all your friends - it's got a lot of easy and quick last-minute things anyone can do who wants to help but has no time to really get involved in the campaign. Plus great fun stuff andgood media links:

www.helpkerrywin.com

[suff1107]

76. Wesley Clark

Not that I'd want it, I just think that is what would happen.