Now this is why I hate Faux News...

[leftist_rebel1569]

From the Star Tribune article "Freaky Franken Friday: Book release, Fox lawsuit hearing scheduled"...

Satirist Al Franken's new book will hit stores Friday, the same day lawyers will hit a New York courtroom to offer arguments in a lawsuit the book has generated.

In Monday's New York Daily News, O'Reilly wrote that his network and program are successful because "We don't do drive-by character assassinations, and we don't denigrate opposing points of view by launching gratuitous personal attacks."

Fox's suit described Franken with such terms as "shrill," "unstable" and "deranged."


http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4051170.html


Notice the contradiction in the bottom 2 paragraphs above...

[Breezy du Nord]

1. A network that employs Sean Hannity calls Franken "deranged?"

Takes on to know one, I guess....

What f**king idiots.

[leftist_rebel1569]

2. Yeah...I know

Thank god the lawsuit got blocked though! :)

[Rhiannon12866]

15. It was thrown out of court!

FAUX News could not copywright "fair and balanced!" LOL! :-)

[Rhiannon12866]

3. The lawsuit has been dismissed. FOX News has no case.

I saw this, much earlier, on CNN. Don't bother with FAUX News. They will just drive you batty.:crazy:

[leftist_rebel1569]

4. I heard about that...

Thank god! :)

[Rhiannon12866]

5. Al Franken has had his share of troubles with FOX News

He really got into it with Bill O'Reilly on C-Span over what he said about him in this same book. I, unfortunately, missed this, but was told it was pretty good.:D

[Rhiannon12866]

6. There was an excellent interview with Al Franken on

Aaron Brown's ``Newsnight'' on CNN tonight. It will be repeated at 1 am EDT (actually 1:49, I think) which you would really enjoy. He talks all about this and minces no words. He said that O'Reilly was behind the lawsuit, of course!

[Kolesar]

7. Aaron Brown ripped Fox good at the beginning of that segment.

They were hypocritical when they filed that lawsuit.

(I watched the Dean Rally in Bryant park, Al Franken, then the Daily Show, what an evening of tv viewing!)

[Rhiannon12866]

8. I am getting so I like Aaron Brown

He has pushed the envelope a few times, recently. He not only used this as an excuse to rip into FOX News, but really enjoyed it when Al Franken said that that Bush* was a liar. With a glint in his eye, he made him repeat his words in case anyone had missed them.

I agree that The Daily Show is also very well-done. Did you happen to catch this priceless segment?

Bush vs. Bush
http://www.comedycentral.com/mp/play.php?reposid=/multimedia/tds/stewart/jon_7131.html

[Kolesar]

12. thanks for the link and praise broadband cable internet

[Rhiannon12866]

13. You're welcome and I hope that you enjoyed this debate

I enjoy The Daily Show and thought that this was very cleverrly done. It is among my favorites. I agree with your praise; it is so much fun. Unfortunately, whatever the outcome of this debate, one Bush or another has to be the winner!:crazy:

[PROGRESSIVE1]

9. Faux never had a case...

they do not have a case and they will NEVER have a case for their
existance!

[Rhiannon12866]

10. Agreed. Bill O'Reilly talked FOX News in initiating the lawsuit

to salvage his bruised ego. What he accomplished, instead, was to propel Al Franken's book to the top of the best seller list. The publicity his lawsuit generated for Franken's book was priceless!:D

[Rhiannon12866]

11. I have not read Franken's new book,

but I did read Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot. Very funny and informative!:D

[Rhiannon12866]

14. Kick!

A :kick: for leftist_rebel1569!:-)

[Rhiannon12866]

16. Why else do you hate FAUX News, leftist_rebel?

Because they are Freepers, pretending to actually report the news, by any chance?:shrug:

[mrdmk]

17. Just one questions

Why do comedians have better memories than our news stations?:shrug:

[Rhiannon12866]

18. Excellent question.

I watched Bill Mahar, tonight, and he wondered the same thing. He talked about how Roger Clinton and poor Billy Carter continued to make headlines, but there is barely a ripple after Neil Bush*'s antics, involving deals with Red China and Asian prostitutes. What did Roger and Billy ever do that ever approximated that?:shrug:

[MichaelHarris]

19. Latest Fox article

This latest article on Fox's website is very good as long as you replace Wolf Blitzer's name with Bill O'Reilly's. It reads much better that way.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110712,00.html

You can bet I'll be sending another email to Fox.

[Rhiannon12866]

20. Thank you for the information

I think that FOX News needs to hear from all of us, en masse, though I doubt it will discourage them. Dennis Kucinich is my candidate and I deeply resent the insults.:grr:

Welcome to DU, mharris660! Glad to have you with us!:hi:

on edit: added a sentence and a smilie

[MichaelHarris]

21. Thank you for your welcome

Thank you Rhiannon,

I've always respected Mr Kucinich's positions even though I'm leaning more towards Edwards. I spend alot of time watching Fox and reading their website for things that are just so wrong. I take that information and send emails to places like fair.org and other fairness in media outlets. Recently I forwarded an article by Fox detailing the "fallacy of agent orange" and its effects of soldiers to the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Fox's position was that the soldiers we're faking their illnesses and that John Kerry pushed legislation allowing Vietnam to sue the US. None of this it true of course but just showing it to the toothless viewers of Fox who will never research it is damage enough. I've done medical research at the University of Texas for 12 years, I'm in Washington now, and I've read the research on Agent Orange, a deadly dioxin. For Fox to belittle its effects is criminal and demeaning to our servicemen who served in Vietnam. No matter what we feel about that war we must look at what harm our chemical weapons may have caused them. We owe them that. Even if its just one voice I will continue to monitor the likes of Fox and the Washington Post to "out" these pseudo journalists. Even to the point of calling for boycotts of their advertisers.

[Rhiannon12866]

22. I agree with you completely, mharris660

I used to work with a guy who was a Vietnam vet. He told me fascinating and frightening stories of his service. He even brought photos of the spraying of Agent Orange. Those who served deserve better than they are getting, but those in Iraq, not to mention even those who served on World War II are also being shortchanged by the cutbacks in Veterans' benefits. It is one of the worst things that they have done, so far, IMO.

I continue to support Dennis Kucinich, though I know that he hasn't a prayer, more's the pity. But I think he is performing a valuable service by speaking out. I will support whoever is the nominee. I like some more than others. I do like Edwards a great deal, but am not sure, as a first term senator, if he is ready for the top spot. I have heard Kerry/Edwards. That would work for me. My friend who is working for Kerry in New Hampshire likes to think of Edwards as "a president in training."

Thanks so much for your thoughtful response and thanks for the good work. I also send many e-mails to participate in various "actions." FOX News is the worst, though I continue to be discouraged by the lack of aggressive reporting in the American media.:-(

[MichaelHarris]

23. Discouraged

Whatever the polls show Dennis Kucinich's voice has been heard. The numbers are not important. He touched you, thats whats important. To be affected and impowered by the words of a politician is what we as Americans should cherish. Whats important now is use that anger, that discouraged feeling, to take the media back. Just like Dennis Kucinich, you also have a voice. Find an article or news report that you find offensive. Grab it "by the balls" and take them to task. Whatever it takes. Organize boycotts, start a webpage, post flyers, contact celebrities. I've done that. Sometimes it works. The most important thing is to remember, the strongest voice in the world is yours. Its the voice that starts the yell.

I've started a website for writers to express their opinions. I'm new here and not sure of the rules so I better not post it until I learn the rules.

Michael

[Rhiannon12866]

24. You can post a website here anytime, as long as you're not a spammer, LOL!

But I understand your hesitation. I take part in more actions than I can keep up with, political, enviromental, animal rights. I just heard back from my senator, Hillary Clinton, today, saying that she agrees with my views on the energy policy.

Thanks for your kind words regarding Dennis Kucinich. He speaks to my heart, as far as our nation's policies are concerned, and I am grateful that he continues to speak out, despite his discouraging primary results. I just don't get it. I will support the nominee, but I would love to live in Dennis Kucinich's world.:-)

On edit: fixed typo

[MichaelHarris]

25. Spam

I go to hawaii fishing every year and they wrap spam and rice in seaweed as a snack. Thats what we should be fighting because thats just nasty. I'm watching Fear Fox right now, those morning clowns. I keep saying sic-um to my dog but he hasn't got it yet.

[Rhiannon12866]

26. Please don't expose your dog to such things

I have two dogs, myself, and I barely expose them to CNN or MSNBC.

There was a post a few months ago in which three cats were watching FOX News on the TV and my favorite response was to call PETA, LOL!

I think it's pretty safe to post any website on DU as long as it's legitimate and not against the progressive principals of DU. Some people even post links to Free Republic, but just to prove a point. I have looked at this occasionally, but always regret it.

Welcome to DU, again, and thanks for posting on my friend, leftist_rebel's thread. He will appreciate it and I know that you'd like him and he'd like you.:hi:

Here's the link to the thread I mentioned. I hope it still works.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2828&forum=DCForumID69

Edited to include link.

[MichaelHarris]

27. Fox morning

OK I watched again, I got mad, I stopped shaking long enough to send an email. Here it is.

Fox News
Could this self serving morning crew be any more un-fair and balanced? To keep showing the meaningless Fonda-Kerry photo over and over while you spew forth the meaningless of it. Who are you kidding? This is just a ploy to force feed your viewers some obscure connection. This is without a doubt the most biases morning show on TV. Without going into a rant about the total lack of talent any of the hosts have, I would ask that you step back, look at what you're putting on the air, and ask yourselves. Are the American people so stupid they accept your views the current political situations? Or do you really believe this garbage? You have a morning show host asking Forbes about Botox. That is the most idiotic attack on a candidate so far. Fox rants about its ratings. Jerry Springer and Morton Downey had good ratings also. People love to watch train wrecks.

How do you three look at yourselves in the morning to shave? I said three I understand one of you is female but the Bush testosterone has caused a little growth. My guess is you shave each other so you don't have to face yourselves.

Michael Harris
Pullman, WA

P.S. I tried to post in that forum but with my limited knowledge of how the cat forum operates I couldn't get in.

[Rhiannon12866]

28. Michael, you know what Faux News is. Why torture yourself?

I agree that we should all be e-mailing them, but I have serious doubts that it will do any good. They recently orchestrated the 39-hour Senate talk-a-thon in support of President Bush's most radically conservative judicial nominees to fit their broadcast schedule. It's ludicrous. Our first priority should be removing the squatter-in-chief from the White House and maybe then we will have the leverage to take on FOX News.

I didn't understand your P.S. What is the cat forum? I can help you out if you have questions about DU.

Rhiannon :-)

[MichaelHarris]

29. torture

More now than ever in our political history we have media outlets, such as Fox, forming public opinion with false and misleading coverage. They have lost their way. No longer is it journalism, its campaigning. With the Rupert Murdoch takeover of major media labels this election will be won and lost in this biased forum. Based on that I think we should use whatever voice we have to discredit these outlets at every possible chance we get. With that said I feel that the war for the White House first must go through the battles for the media. I think its very important to take these battles to advertisers, and media groups who report on this kind of journalism. One morning I watched the Fox morning show try to do a live broadcast from Penn State. Hundreds of students got in front of cameras every chance they got with signs and banners. Not since the late 60's and early 70's had I been so proud of our youth. They are taking a stand to win back fair journalism. I was thinking tonight and came up with kind of theory. We all love a good theory. I thought about how the media, and the campaign managers must hate the internet. Not in the way you might think but in the way that the internet keeps political theory's, dirt, and scandals alive. Think about this scenario. Bush's camp wanting the National Guard thing to go away. A back room deal is made asking the Dem campaign team not to use this and in turn we won't use you candidates speeches on the Vietnam War. Now all this is just a thought but with the internet these people loose the ability to stop this information. The internet is the best grass roots tool we have. Sorry I got preachy, its late.

p.s. I went to the cat forum thing and it said it was locked and wanted a password. I tried my DU one and it didn't work.

[MichaelHarris]

Fox boycott info

Go here for info in joining a boycott of Fox advertisers, http://www.infoshop.org/boycottfoxnews.html

New additions are: Ditec.com, hotels.com, and the Sharper Image, (I know I know, we all need robot vacumn cleaners)

I will prepare a form letter for anyone who wants. We can win this, remember the neo-con's we're successful in getting the Reagans pulled from CBS. All it takes is our voices.

[Rhiannon12866]

31. Michael, chill. I completely agree with you

The only difference that I think we have is that I think that the leadership must be changed first, then the media will follow. The media, of which I have been a part, looks to the way the wind is blowing, since they want to have access, so they are first on any story. What we need to concentrate on is the change in leadership. A more accessible one, of course, but also one that reflects the needs of the American people, the environment, anti-terrorism, which certainly does not include Iraq, and so much more. I would prefer that FOX News be dealt with in this environment. I think it would be much more effective. I welcome your thoughts on this matter.:-)

[Rhiannon12866]

32. Please explain more about the cat thing.

I still just don't get it, but I am certainly willing to help.:shrug:

[leftist_rebel1569]

33. That's the old DU

You can't post there at all, it's archived

[Rhiannon12866]

34. leftist_rebel, I'm confused

The old DU was defunct as of July of last year. What is this guy talking about? I don't know about any cat thing, except the numerous cat threads in The Lounge, LOL! Am I clueless, or what?:eyes:

[MichaelHarris]

35. The cat thing

Oops, sorry this link http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=sh...

I couldn't get into it before but I can now. I think a big dog hairball was in my laptop.

On the media thing I agree 110% Defeat the conservative pres and the media will follow. My fear is that without fairness in the media we may not have a chance.

[Rhiannon12866]

36. This link didn't work for me; I don't know why

The one thing that the press seems to be following is the AWOL story. It's too little, too late, but, at least, it's something.:shrug:

[leftist_rebel1569]

37. Okay...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=2828&forum=DCForumID69

That was the link you to the cat thread you gave him, but that was on the old DU and I think he tried to post on it, and had an error since you can't post on the old DU. At least that's what I think is going on...

[Rhiannon12866]

38. Thank you, my friend! I remember this thread well!

I posted on it and thought it was so funny that I sent it to my friend! LOL!:D

[Rhiannon12866]

41. I don't know if you got leftist_rebel's explanation

This thread was on the old DU, before the software upgrade last July 6th, so you can't post on any of the threads on DU 1. It's read only. But I do remember enjoying that cat thread and even posted on it, BTW.:-)

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[MichaelHarris]

39. Fox again

On Fox just now they had a live broadcast from the Whitehouse where bush was meeting with some Tunisian guy. The guy said something in his native language and the Fox guy said, "It would be nice if when these guys visit the Whitehouse they would speak in English". Go Fox Americanize and Christianize the entire world. If they don't will fox have us bomb the shit out of them? BTW, The pres took only 2 questions from the press. None about Tunisia, sp?

[Rhiannon12866]

40. Good God! Talk about the ugly American!

How can these guys get away with such prejudicial remarks?! But then so many of their hosts are nothing but hatemongers, anyway, so what do I expect?:shrug:

But Tunisia? That can be the next stop in Bush*s "nation-building" Imperialist efforts. Just think how easy it would be to bomb them into submission. Much easier than those pesky Iraqis who are still not giving the U.S. the grateful welcome that we deserve!:eyes:

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[La_Serpiente]

42. Speaking of Tunisia

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/18/1639210

President Bush is scheduled to meet with Tunisian President Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali at the White House today. It is the first visit to Washington by an Arab leader since Bush unveiled his so-called initiative for democracy in the Middle East.
Tunisia is seen by Washington as a key ally in the war on terror. They receive modest U.S. military aid, and the two countries conduct joint military exercises.

Secretary of State Colin Powell on Tuesday saluted Ben Ali as a strong friend and praised the Tunisian government but advised him to put more effort into political reform.

Human rights groups have called on Bush to press Ben Ali to allow more freedoms and dissent. The Tunisian Human Rights League, the country's only legal independent rights group, reports the government routinely beats dissidents and rights campaigners and muzzles the press.

Ben Ali took power from Tunisia's first president Habib Bourguiba in a bloodless palace coup in 1987. In the past three presidential elections, Ben Ali was reelected with an official tally of more than 99 percent. He is eligible to stand for reelection in 2004 and again in 2009 after parliament approved constitutional amendments.

[Rhiannon12866]

44. Thanks for this good information. I did not know this

I mainly follow the Iraq debacle and the horrible conflict in Israel/Palestine. This is something we should all know about. The situation in Spain and abrupt change in power also needs watching. It seems since Bush* took power, the world situation has become a much scarier place.
:scared:

[sampsonblk]

43. Kiran Chetry is the best

She subbed this morning for the regular morning bimbo. She won't last long. She didn't play along with the right-wing rally format. She even kept her legs crossed and didn't say or ask anything stupid.

The best part (so far) is when that one bozo announced that unemployment is "really low," and she pointed out that a lot of people aren't counted because they aren't looking, but they still don't have jobs. Poor bozo had no response...

I think we need to have a commission to find out who allowed an honest woman to end up live on Faux "News!" My guess is that she won't be back tomorrow.

[Rhiannon12866]

46. That is decent news

And I agree with her assessment of the unemployment situation. I cannot stand to listen to Faux News. CNN and some shows on MSNBC are preferable, though sometimes I get irritated with them, as well, having gotten used to the level of discourse and points of view expressed on DU.:shrug:

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