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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:44 AM Original message |
To those who say Solar cannot provide enough of our energy needs |
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TlalocW
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know about my energy needs |
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ejpoeta
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
2. sounds like a good idea except then how would you work 24 hours. |
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Sirveri
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It works 24 hours with a liquid salt thermal battery. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. It still isn't viable in non-desert regions. |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Watch the video --they're in the UK |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 07:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. You can perform that experiment anywhere there's sunlight (ie, anywhere, even Antarctica). |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Pithy or Paltry? Never mind, I understood your meaning |
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HillbillyBob
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. The Spanish have a solar concentration plant that melts salts |
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ejpoeta
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Wed Jan-26-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. i would LOVE radiant floor heating!! but that is not something currently in my budget. |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:14 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. It goes under the umbrella of passive solar design |
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HillbillyBob
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. We are looking at water as a thermal mass. |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-27-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. 18 tons of gravel is the thermal mass |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-27-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Sorry I misunderstood you |
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FBaggins
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Fri Jan-28-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Water's other problem... |
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HillbillyBob
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. Instead of our tax $$ going to subsidize oil/coal it should be going to |
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ejpoeta
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Thu Jan-27-11 07:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
74. we have a doublewide we moved from a trailer park to our property |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-27-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. I don't know anyone who can afford to do a whole home at once |
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zipplewrath
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
3. Gotta talk Watt-hours |
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elocs
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wow! We're saved! And to think it was so easy. |
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Javaman
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. Melting steel is vastly different that smelting steel. nt |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Smelting, Schmelting -- it's just melting when all is said and done |
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Javaman
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. If they can make it work, great... |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Solar Tres is actually an example why solar can only be a small component in the future. |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. A time to cast away stones, a time to gather stones together |
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madokie
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. You got that right |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-27-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
80. That's a fact |
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madokie
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Thu Jan-27-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. And how proud we all would be |
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txlibdem
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Thu Jan-27-11 10:01 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. S.B.O.C.Bs for sure |
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madokie
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Fri Jan-28-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. What you've said is so right on. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Using Sunlight to Smelt Iron Ore |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Cool |
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Sirveri
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
7. I like thermal solar, but it's more complicated than that. |
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sailor65
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
8. TANSTAAFL |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. No free lunch |
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zipplewrath
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. What makes you think they haven't? |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. The fact that you can breath right now disputes that. |
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Gregorian
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
10. Storage is the issue. |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Not really. |
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Gregorian
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. That has nothing to do with what I said. (I only meant solar, though.) |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Wind doesn't fix the problem |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The running theory is V2G, but there needs to be developments in vehicle motors. |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. If oodles of little batteries were a practical solution |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. The idea is that vehicles are sitting in driveways or parking lots 90% of their life. |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. You're missing my complaint |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You do not understand the issue. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I suggest that you read what you post before looking even more foolish. |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I didn't say it wasn't necessary |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Sure you did. |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The exchange is clear. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. It certainly is clear. |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I'll take logical fallacies for $1000, Alex |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Well done. |
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jeff47
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Wed Jan-26-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Your post has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 07:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I don't think you've established that V2G doesn't qualify as 3. |
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jeff47
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Thu Jan-27-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #60 |
75. It's a perception issue |
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joshcryer
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Sat Jan-29-11 11:29 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. That's silly, read the papers, the cars won't be drained when it matters. |
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FBaggins
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Sun Jan-30-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Actually... they could |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Are you really, seriously that confused? |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. To the man whose toolkit includes only a hammer... every problem looks like a nail. |
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jeff47
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Thu Jan-27-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #62 |
78. Post length does not equal post validity |
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GliderGuider
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Thu Jan-27-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Fascinating insights, thanks! |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. There is no basis for your claim about materials. |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. The current reliance on neodymium and lanthanum doesn't cause you any concern? |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Repeating that same falsehood isn't going to make it true. |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-26-11 10:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Meaning what exactly? |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Meaning that if your belief system is really a religion and not science... |
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kristopher
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Thu Jan-27-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Meaning that "using current designs" is a weasel qualfier |
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FBaggins
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Thu Jan-27-11 07:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. If it's a "weasel qualfier"... it's one that the anti-nuke crowd knows quite well. |
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jeff47
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Thu Jan-27-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. What designs should we plan on? |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. You're absolutely wrong, there isn't enough Nd on the planet to build cars of current designs. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Yes. Really. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Yeah, he used to be a huge V2G proponent, there are hundreds of posts. |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. That was when I introduced DU to the V2G idea |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Shilling for an unworkable idea isn't the same thing as "introducing" DU to it. |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:38 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Really? You knew about V2G in 2003? |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. 2001 would be before 2003, right? |
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kristopher
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I asked if you knew about V2G in 2003. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I certainly didn't forget about it in the interim. |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I had hope for the "rock batteries" as you call it, haven't heard squat about 'em. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. People need to learn the difference between science that is one step from reality... |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. I don't think it was recieved very negatively here at all. I like the idea. |
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Dogmudgeon
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Wed Jan-26-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
13. "Free Energy" -- ? |
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txlibdem
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
37. What is the cost of "business as usual?" |
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GliderGuider
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Wed Jan-26-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. +1 |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. Until there is a cost analysis for LFTR or IFR type technologies (small modular reactors)... |
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PamW
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Thu Jan-27-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
81. Actually.... |
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joshcryer
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. Rec, and I agree, but it means moving industry to where there's a lot of sunlight. |
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jtrockville
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Wed Jan-26-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. Amy Goodman's interview with Hermann Scheer |
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Thu Jan-27-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
76. Great interview - thanks. nt |
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NNadir
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Thu Jan-27-11 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
72. If solar was so great, 50 years of uncritical wishful thinking cheering would have resulted in... |
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Terry in Austin
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Thu Jan-27-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
84. Such faith! |
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saras
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Sat Jan-29-11 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
90. Needs aren't wants |
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txlibdem
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Sat Jan-29-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. The lie that consumerism brings happiness |
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