Chickenshit is destroying Oklahoma's water.

[NNadir]

Literally.

OKLAHOMA CITY - Attorney General Drew Edmondson, who is suing Arkansas poultry producers over alleged pollution of Oklahoma lakes and streams by chicken litter, said Tuesday the state will face dire consequences if it does not protect the quality of its water.


"Destroy the water and the farms will disappear and the people will leave the cities," Edmondson said during an address before water managers and planners at the Oklahoma Governor's Water Conference.

"Destroy the water and you destroy the future for our children and our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren," he said. More than half of Edmondson's audience gave him a standing ovation at the end of his 30-minute speech...

...He said the amount of phosphorus dumped on the ground every year in the Illinois River watershed is equivalent to the waste of 10.7 million people — more than the population of Oklahoma, Kansas and Arkansas combined.

Edmondson said 70 percent of northeastern Oklahoma's Lake Tenkiller is "oxygen dead," meaning that fish cannot survive there, and that Lake Francis, once a recreational lake in eastern Oklahoma along the Arkansas border, is no more than a marsh today...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061114/ap_on_sc/water_quality_edmondson

[Gman]

1. What does Bush have to do with OK's water?

Maybe I should read the article.

[NNadir]

2. Well, I don't know that it's about Bush, although Bush is chickenshit.

[patrice]

3. Everything there is near a chicken processing plant. Arkansas too.

We had some un-developed property on a ridge above a good Oklahoma canoeing river. Our neighbors turned into chicken processing plants. We sold.

[muntrv]

4. Ok, lets leave the freepers out of this.

[Erika]

5. This is horrible!

Why would the state allow these conditions to develop? That hungry for jobs and $?

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

6. Lake Tenkiller used to be...

A great bass fishing lake. Have the bass fisherman(no small constituency) taken this issue on yet?

[twilight_sailing]

7. This has been going on for years and years now.

[RedEarth]

8. This has been an on-going battle with the chicken producers for

at least ten years. It's tragic since several beautiful rivers and lakes in the state have basically been ruined. Tyson and their chicken farms are the primary polluters and they have the big money to keep stalling and stalling.

[Porcupine]

10. Bush wants to make protesting against these things "terrorism"

some crazy anti-PETA bill.

[eppur_se_muova]

13. Sadly, Gov. Clinton had a lot to do with letting Tyson (major supporter) get away with this. nt

[Sequoia]

16. Tyson is crap.

I got some frozen chicken of theirs once and became very ill. I have since avoided that brand.

[bloom]

9. Maybe it's time for everyone to become vegetarians. nt.

[JohnWxy]

11. lemons into lemonaide - not the best metaphor, but you get the idea.

http://www.ge-energy.com/about/press/en/2006_press/053006e.htm


Wolfring Agricultural Biogas Plant

In May 2006, GE began commissioning a second, eco-certified Jenbacher engine, type JMC 312 GS-B.L for its existing Jenbacher agricultural biogas system at the Wolfring estate in Fensterbach, Bavaria. The initial JMC 208 GS-B.LC, 330 kW-unit has recorded 21,172 operating hours with a total efficiency of 86.4%.

The system's closed-energy cycle uses biogas from renewable sources including grass, corn and chicken dung. The plant's electricity is fed to the public grid and the engine's thermal energy is used for onsite heating purposes. In the summer, the engine's exhaust is used to dry grain and wood chips. Residual products from the biomass fermentation process serve as valuable fertilizer for the farm.

In late 2005, the German Federal Ministry of Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture cited GE's biogas cogeneration unit at the Wolfring estate in Fensterbach, Bavaria, as a "model solution for the ecological and economical generation of energy using agricultural biogas."

[NNadir]

12. Why don't you just stroll down to Oklahoma and explain it to them?

Once you've explained it, all of their problems will be solved.

[JohnWxy]

14. Pragmatic comment yields adolescent response. So what else is new.

[NNadir]

15. Actually pragmatism would have to do with results.

Of course you didn't know that.

The chickenshit problem exists, and the chickenshit response is to engage in chickenshit hand waving to pretend that it will go away. It is a chickenshit idea that googling one's way to an unused technology is the same as having a realistic solution.

But you don't know that either.

[JohnWxy]

18. Perhaps you should talk to the folks at GE and tell that they are imagining

their results. LOL

http://www.ge-energy.com/about/press/en/2006_press/053006e.htm

Currently, more than 450 Jenbacher engines are operating on biogas worldwide. These systems generate 2.28 million MWh of power per year, which corresponds to fossil fuel savings equivalent to 518 million cubic meters of natural gas or 518 million liters of diesel oil. For example, one Jenbacher JMS biogas engine with a capacity of 1.4 megawatts generates 11,200 MWh per year, which is enough electricity to power 3,200 European homes.

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Wolfring Agricultural Biogas Plant

In May 2006, GE began commissioning a second, eco-certified Jenbacher engine, type JMC 312 GS-B.L for its existing Jenbacher agricultural biogas system at the Wolfring estate in Fensterbach, Bavaria. The initial JMC 208 GS-B.LC, 330 kW-unit has recorded 21,172 operating hours with a total efficiency of 86.4%.

The system's closed-energy cycle uses biogas from renewable sources including grass, corn and chicken dung. The plant's electricity is fed to the public grid and the engine's thermal energy is used for onsite heating purposes. In the summer, the engine's exhaust is used to dry grain and wood chips. Residual products from the biomass fermentation process serve as valuable fertilizer for the farm.

In late 2005, the German Federal Ministry of Consumer Protection, Food and Agriculture cited GE's biogas cogeneration unit at the Wolfring estate in Fensterbach, Bavaria, as a "model solution for the ecological and economical generation of energy using agricultural biogas."

LOL.

[NNadir]

19. Apparently all of Oklahoma awaits your marketing of 450 engines as significant.

It's amazing that Oklahoma has not heard about these 450 engines and solved their chickenshit problem.

Maybe they are unaware of your brilliant insights and your ability with google and your ability to describe the experience of - how many? Oh, yeah, 3,200 homes - as a general solution to all of Oklahoma's water problems.

Really, you should go down to Oklahoma and tell them all about it. You really do seem to be an expert on chickenshit.

Or maybe this problem of chickenshit requires someone with a sense of scale...


In the future, I would recommend that you report numbers like 518 million liters as 518 billion milliliters. It will sound even more impressive.

[JohnWxy]

20. Here's the "chicken-shit" experts at GE who you can help out: (give them a call!)

Give them a call or email them.

I'm sure they'd find your sophomoric remarks very informative. LOL Be sure and tell them how much you've done on this subject (such as your intelligent posts to DU) - Environment/Energy. I'm sure they will be quite impressed. LOL


HERE, contact:

Dennis Murphy
GE Energy
[phone]
[e-mail]

Ken Darling or Tom Murnane
Masto Public Relations
[phone]
[e-mail]
[e-mail]


Gonna give them a call? Yeah, that's what I thought. Just an expert here on DU huh? LOL

BTW I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. Wouldn't want you to run to the administrator and have my post DELETED.

[NNadir]

22. Why? I think they already have a marketing staff.

They certainly don't need my marketing help, especially when they already have yours.

It's pretty funny to see you embracing corporate propaganda other than that offered by Archer Midland Daniels.

Apparently you do have a lobbying roladex, but I am hardly interested in its contents and I would certainly not bother speaking to anyone you recommend. It's not like I give a fuck about what your impression of what is and is not an intelligent remark. You've never read (or written) a single scientific paper in your life, although you seem very impressed by listing the institutional affiliations of people who have. (Why not tell us again, all about Dr. Wang of Argonne National Laboratory?) I have, of course, seen this sort of thing from marketing people before, but let's face it, I'm not a credulous rube.

It is surprising that with the corporate marketing strength of GE that they haven't saved Oklahoma even if you are too lazy to do so yourself with your brilliant insights to the problem. What, I wonder, could account for this state of affairs? Is it your impression that the people of Oklahoma are less skilled with glib goggling than you are? I really, really, really wonder why GE is not building boatloads of chickenshit motors in OK.

[kestrel91316]

17. Why in hell aren't the dim bulbs at Tyson using the poultry waste

to make biogas to generate electricity to run their plants???

I'm not in the biz, and even i can think this one up. What a bunch of stupid, lazy, polluting dumbasses.

[eppur_se_muova]

21. It is much cheaper to buy politicians, who legislate the environmental regs away.

By "cheaper" of course I refer exclusively to the short-term financial costs to the company. Most corporate MBA's are unaware of any other perspective.