I'd expect an NRA life member and a hunter to have better trigger discipline

[davepc]

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

1. I wouldn't...

does not mean shit anymore

[Debi]

2. What a campaign slogan...

She won't shoot anybody in the face! McCain/Palin 2008

[Major Hogwash]

13. Hahahahaha!!!

No shit! Who does she think she is fooling by posing for such a picture?

Even the guy standing next to her is like "yeah, right, that's the scope 'thingy'".

Hahahahahaha!!!

[carguy67]

3. You do see

The empty magwell and the wires right? that rifle is for a simulaton deal the military has.

[davepc]

5. I've always been taught - keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot

Not to mention shes probably covering the photographer with the muzzle.

[SteveM]

17. And trying to figure out why the Butler scope flips are hard to see through (nt)

[krispos42]

6. Simulation... to learn proper and safe habits

Treating a "toy" gun like a toy will make you treat a real gun like a toy as well.

You don't want to pick up bad habits, afterall.



Welcome to DU! :hi:

[carguy67]

9. Thanks for the welcome!

All I'm getting at is the camera guy took a picture from off center (not covered) and that he may have very well placed himself "down range". Pictures such as this are hard to pass judgement on without knowing the whole story.

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[BrklynLiberal]

4. He couldda picked Sarah Conner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[OwnedByFerrets]

7. Boy, doesnt that make her look sooooooooooooo

fucking tough. I SICK OF MACHO FUCKING BULLSHIT.

[SteveM]

18. Conner? "Macho?" More like competent (nt)

[ManiacJoe]

8. Not enough context for a proper judgment.

If she is in the middle of a simulation, she is fine.
If the rifle is configured to activate the electronics via trigger pressure, she is fine.
She is not covering the camera man.

[AtheistCrusader]

10. I'm not sure how that photo was taken

but from what I've seen of that video clip, the weapon is pointed downrange, and she does fire.

[tburnsten]

16. It is configured that way

Look at the air hose hanging off the handguard, and the barrel plug for the laser or whatever it is that sets off the sensors in the EST. I have taken photos of foreign dignitaries and college kids (potential recruits) using the EST 2000 system exactly the way the photographer in this case took it. Criticize her for anything, but criticize accurately. I know I intentionally tried to get photos of soldiers showing the individual they were with how to operate the weapons.

It is clearly an EST, the photo guy is downrange on purpose to get that shot, I don't think criticizing her for this is going to be a winner.

[jody]

11. She's commander of the Alaska National Guard & probably visiting a unit during training with

simulation equipment.

"The governor as ex officio commander of the militia of the state has command of the Alaska National Guard and the Alaska Naval Militia while they are not in active federal service."

IMO the picture does not show her violating safe practices although others can quibble if they want to. :shrug:

[Major Hogwash]

14. What, 4 eskimos and a pissed off moose!?!

Thank gawd they're safe from those back-bacon stealing Canadians!!


Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

[Major Hogwash]

12. Get behind her and out of the way - that is totally poor form!!!!

Look at where her eyes are directed, she's either cross-eyed, or totally out of it.

[tburnsten]

15. EST 2000 system

That is a system that uses compressed air to feel like it is cycling the weapon, it is like a giant video game that is used to teach people marksmanship. That picture is not neccessarily a bad move on her part.

[Recursion]

19. Wow, that officer doesn't care if his men get shot?

That's disturbing.

And how do you tell the difference in a Major and a LtCol with those new uniforms?

[tburnsten]

21. It's a simulation system

The entire room, and on most bases entire building is a giant videogame simulation of a range, where people can get some practice in with the quicker and cheaper FATS or EST 2000 system. No one was in any danger here, it is quite clearly the EST 2000, you can tell because of the hose for compressed air hanging out of the handguard of the rifle and the barrel plug. Check out what the inside of an M16 muzzle brake looks like-





No weird white filler material. Those weapons are modified pretty heavily to be used in the EST system, and are no longer capable of accepting real ammunition.

[one-eyed fat man]

24. subdued rank insignia

The subdued rank insignia has not changed in 40 years. The black oak leaf denotes an LTC while the dull brown denotes a MAJ. On the ACUs the rank insignia is held in place by Velcro patch approximately about the second shirt button rather than on the collar as was done on BDUs or on the epaulets of the field jackets.

Were that battalion commander wearing dress greens or blues his rank insignia would be silver and on his epaulets. A major would wear gold oak leaves.

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[Rick O Shay]

23. Hmmmmm

It looks to me like she is sighting on target and the soldier is looking at the results. Considering the 'weapon' is a simulgun the photographer is in no danger.