"The government wanted to take away his guns and his freedom" - NRA/FR propaganda

[Bluebear]

Poplawski had feared "the Obama gun ban that's on the way" and "didn't like our rights being infringed upon," said Edward Perkovic, his best friend....

Another longtime friend, Aaron Vire, said Poplawski feared that President Barack Obama was going to take away his rights...

Poplawski had been laid off from his job at a glass factory earlier this year, said another friend, Joe DiMarco. DiMarco said he didn't know the name of the company, but knew his friend had been upset about it...

Rest in peace...



Guns = freedom...



Chickens coming home to roost...

[Mz Pip]

1. Except that they didn't

Though someone as nuts as this guy probably didn't need much of an excuse to go on a killing spree.

[Bluebear]

2. Highly suggestible, follower, paranoid right-wing time bomb fed by Hannity & Rush...

How many are out there?

[ShareTheWoods]

6. Is there some evidence he followed hannity, rush or he read FR?

Where are you getting these scoops from? Can you share the evidence?

[Bluebear]

14. Don't be so obvious, oh new visitor.

[ShareTheWoods]

17. In other words...

You have no evidence and are changing the subject to harassment.

[Froward69]

21. as an offical "wave maker" here at DU...

I can spot freepers a mile away.... that said, the "scoop" in this instance has become a dump truck full from multiple news outlets. Before you spew about "the main stream media". Understand that the Propaganda of "Obama bent on taking our guns" is pure fiction propagated by FAUX and conservative sources...

when here at DU we are in agreement that the Gun Grabbing saints are in fact the Bradys(R) Jim and whats his wife's name.
Remember him? he was Regan's press secretary who caught one in the head when Regan was shot in 1992.

Now also consider the mass murders currently happening are done by 1)Crazes and 2)have a strong tendency to be influenced by the Right wing Propaganda machine. 3)Citing "defending America" by their murderous actions.

[rl6214]

25. OK let's see, Voong the NY killer

Now also consider the mass murders currently happening are done

1)Crazes- Crazy? Definately fit the bill here

2)have a strong tendency to be influenced by the Right wing Propaganda machine. - No evidence here that this is the case. He lost his job and went off the deep end.

3)Citing "defending America" by their murderous actions.- Again nothing I have seen in any of the news outlets that would indicate he was "defending America"

[HPSteam]

29. You will find no proof,evidence or sorrow here.....

only small angry mind-sets standing on the stacked, still warm bodies of victims of HATE! By men with angry, ugly-mind-sets that strike out at anything and everything with GUN! BUT pictures of the three slain POLICE OFFICERS is just beyond the pale! The Circle of Anger, Hate, Fear and DEATH is now complete. Thank GOD the dead don't hear a word that you say. But i do and i say. "GET the FUCK off those MEN now" go start another loop....or Not. GBA

[AlinPA]

4. The guy seemed to be acting on what he thought was right, based on

what the right wing was saying. It sounds like he knew what he was doing; wearing body armor, and following through on his stated goal of defending himself if "they" tried to take his guns. His shooting at the officers when they arived was his way of defending himself. Some lawyer will try to claim mental illness, but we should electrocute the animal for the murders.

[applegrove]

3. The cost of stirring the NRA pot.

[michreject]

5. Way to use a tragedy to advance your bullshit agenda.

Nuff said.

[Bluebear]

15. Fuck ***your*** agenda too, reject. It's based on what his friends reported about him.

Typical bullshit commentary "oh, it's a 'tragedy', don't talk about the causes"...like it all happened in a vacuum. Like it's a "tragedy" in the sense of an accident. Bullshit is right. Nuff said.

[TWiley]

19. "nuff said" cause he has no other argument .....

[villager]

7. Here's another Crooks and Liars piece on the same thing:

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/was-pittsburgh-shooter-driven-right-

[-..__...]

8. The irony of all this is...

that the shooters actions were in part a response to a concern that his 2nd amendment rights were at risk, and the response from many here (and in government), will be that we need stronger gun control laws (with an "assault weapons" ban topping the wish list).

[slackmaster]

20. You are exactly right, -..__...

A much more effective response would be for our leaders to make a strong statement that our civil rights will not be infringed on their watch.

[MrPerson]

9. How do they end up believing this shit?

[ColbertWatcher]

10. Anyone do any internets investigation on this guy yet!?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5393276&mesg_id=5393276

[csziggy]

11. The Right Wing Nuts are going to turn this meme into a self-fulfilling prophesy

If they continue to get so worked up that they go on shooting sprees of law enforcement and innocent victims, the government will be forced to increase gun controls. And if they go so far as to attempt an armed insurrection, the controls will become draconian. Then all this right wing pundits will be able to say, "See, we told you so!"

This is what my first anthropology professor called a self-fulfilling prophesy - a prediction that itself leads to the predicted result.

[young_at_heart]

12. Who is responsible for giving him paranoid ideas?

I can think of a few on Fox.

[rl6214]

26. I would say

Glenn Beck stirs the shit pretty good BUT

Howard Stern is now out there advocating gun buys.

Would he be considered an NRA, Right Wing gun nut?

[friendly_iconoclast]

28. Maybe he read something like this at DU....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=209943&mesg_id=210174

Joe Steel (229 posts) Sun Apr-05-09 07:44 AM
Response to Reply #191
194. I have a dream...
What, Exactly...

Do you dream of confiscating?


As I implied above, I have a dream...


Gun Recovery And Ban

1. Recovery: Within 30 days of this procedure's implementation, all handguns, or other specified guns, in private possession shall be delivered to a law enforcement agency.

2. Prosecution: Persons found to be in possession of a handgun, or other specified gun, after the expiration of the 30 day recovery period will be guilty of a class A felony and shall be prosecuted.

3. Reeducation: Convicted offenders found to be in possession of a handgun, or other specified gun, shall be transported to a reeducation camp for instruction in the community's expectations.

4. Perfection: Persons found to be in possession of a handgun, or other specified gun, after reeducation shall be made harmless.

[pepperbear]

13. don't look now, but they're clinging to their "Gods and Guns". Now who is it that predicted that?

[starroute]

16. I wonder if he worked for PPG

PPG -- formerly Pittsburgh Plate Glass -- is a well known manufacturer in that area.

http://invest-n-trade.blogspot.com/2009/03/ppg-industries-layoffs-job-cut-fires.html

13 March 2009

The news is not good for the employees of PPG Industries, which is a major company for Paints, Chemicals and other materials. Now the situation is getting worse for the employees as the recession is taking a toll on all sectors and all of the sectors are feeling the heat. The latest additon to the list of organization which may go for layoffs is the PPG Industries Publishers. It has declared that it will layoff some 2500 workers.

How many employees may be fired in the PPG Industries layoffs?
The news is that around 2500 employees may be fired from their jobs at PPG Industries.

What is the total no. of employees of PPG Industries?
Total No. of employees of PPG Industries is around 13000 as of now.

When will the PPG Industries layoffs happen?
As per the reports, the layoffs will be done beginning as soon as possible.

[TWiley]

18. Dont forget dipshits like Weaver, McVeigh, Nichols, Koresh, and Dobbs

[jefflrrp]

22. This guy is going to hell, no doubt, and will burn for it . . .

But Im sick of hearing that the take gun/restrict guns mantra is purely NRA BS fostered against Obama. Mr. Obama, Mr. Biden, Mr. Holder, and Ms. Clinton all have a long rap sheet of arguing for/voting for/advocating for some sort of restrictions on guns and self defense. Yes, the NRA does use fear tactics to get people to pony up money for their membership dues; so does almost any other advocacy organization. But I've seen over 30-40 articles in many different newspapers about the spike in gun and ammo sales, and with the economy and country going to shit, people are probably panic buying. I've only received 1 mailer from the NRA since November. If anybody is stirring the fear pot, its been the MSM with the reports on gun sales and the comments by Holder, Clinton and the ilk about proposed gun bans.

Chew on that for a little while.

[slackmaster]

23. The government actually did want to take away his guns

His dishonorable discharge from the Marine Corps made him ineligible to own one.

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000922----000-.html

[rl6214]

24. The gun is not the problem

The criminal is.

May those officers rest in peace and my prayers are with their families.

There is only one place for the criminal, may he get the justice he deserves.

[TWiley]

27. no, the criminal with a gun is a problem