AA visitor shoots, kills robber

[Are_grits_groceries]

A visitor to a Columbia Alcoholics Anonymous center on College Street shot and killed an 18-year-old man who tried to rob AA members at the center late Saturday night, city police said Sunday morning.

"Gimme what you got," witnesses quoted the suspected robber as saying when he entered the AA building at 2015 College St. about 10:48 p.m. Saturday. They said he brandished a .25 caliber handgun.

At that point, one AA visitor dropped something on the floor -- possibly his wallet -- and another AA visitor pulled a pistol out and shot the suspect several times in the chest, police said.

http://www.thestate.com/crime/story/747468.html

The robber was probably drunk or high. I can feel the irony from here.

[Skittles]

1. "Gimme what you got"

well, he got it

[opihimoimoi]

2. Never fuck with a former drunk who is pissed he can't drink....I bet he had a shot after that

[JeanGrey]

3. Gee Whiz - another robbery possible murder stopped

by someone with a gun. Imagine that.

[Skittles]

4. can't we have a story without you gun nuts?

just once?

[cobalt1999]

6. The entire board is filled with stories without guns.

If you don't like reading such stories, you have plenty of other threads to post your opinions on.

:eyes:

[slackmaster]

11. There's always the Ingore feature

:hi:

[hendo]

19. ignore is for wimps. NT

[Hoopla Phil]

14. I kinda like them. "Gimme what you got," LOL, now THAT's comedy.

[JeanGrey]

18. LOL. You guys are hysterical.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

20. You ask about putting this whole forum on ignore, but you come back day after day.

You are an odd bird.

David

[Endangered Specie]

25. touche

[michreject]

5. Couldn't be

We all know that those don't happen.

[NYC_SKP]

9. And it will be counted as a "deadly gun accident" or an "alcohol related death"...

...or some such statistic to be used to justify gun control.

Rather than a justified use and possible multiple murder prevented.

Am I right?

[DonP]

12. Nope, Brady will list this as "Another child killed by a gun"

They used to consider anyone up to and including 24 years old as a "child" for their reports.

[NYC_SKP]

13. FUCK!

:mad:

[Hoopla Phil]

16. Yep. Figures don't lie but . . . you know the rest.

[Hoopla Phil]

15. It will really be lumped into another homicide stat. Go figure.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

21. Actually the FBI keep stats on justifiable homicides also.

They separate police and civilian.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_13.html

and

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_14.html

David

[LWolf]

7. It's the Wild East.

Gunfight in the local saloon substitute.

Where criminals and citizens carry guns, and shooting people resolves conflict.

[Hoopla Phil]

17. When someone comes at you with unlawful deadly force would you suggest

getting on knees maybe?

[LWolf]

26. Not at all.

I just don't live my life assuming that anyone is out to get me, and that I am going to be a target of "unlawful deadly force." I don't need to pack a gun to feel safe.

It's a difference in perspective, I guess.

[Tim01]

27. How you feel is not irrelevant. Same for how I feel

How you feel does matter in a quality of life kind of way, but you are not safe.
The odds ARE on your side. Probably nothing bad will happen to you. Especially if you stay out of bad areas at night and things like that.
But if you are one of the unlucky few, you or your family will be raped or murdered or whatever and there will be nothing you can do about it.
How you feel doesn't matter. If you have a gun you can shoot a bad guy, if you don't have a gun you can not.
Or if I or somebody like me is near by, we will gladly help you. We don't like to allow bad things to happen to good people.

It's a lot like fire insurance. I know more people who have had violent encounters than I do people whose house has caught on fire. But how many people have fire insurance? Just about everyone.

[LWolf]

30. That's fine.

I value quality of life, and I choose not to live in fear. That doesn't mean I am naive, or that I would not defend myself.

I won't use a gun to do so, because I don't carry one. Guns are not the only means of self-defense when necessary. :shrug:

As a matter of fact, the only time I can remember that I DID fear for my safety was when visiting my father's home as a teenager. I hadn't seen him in more than 10 years, and he left me at the house for the weekend, with a crew of step-siblings straight out of "deliverance," with a loaded handgun accessible to everyone in the house. I was more afraid of the stepsiblings than I was of stranger invasions.

Please note that I am not "anti-gun." I don't want to own a gun myself, but I'm not against gun ownership. I spent 22 years married to two different men who kept guns. The first threatened me with a loaded rifle one night when he was drunk. While our sons were sleeping in the next room.

HIS brother married a girl whose father died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Supposedly while he was cleaning it, which didn't make sense to me, but there you are. His grandmother was once arrested for taking potshots at the neighbors from her front porch (she missed.) She was convinced that they were sneaking over to steal from her. She was a depression-era "hoarder," and thought that they'd taken a coffee can full of old nuts and bolts that she'd collected. One of a garage FULL of old coffee cans and other containers holding everything she'd found and collected for the last 50 years.

Despite having lived in "dangerous" neighborhoods at different points of my life, I've never been attacked by a stranger. Only by those I already knew.

I HAVE witnessed gang confrontations with loaded guns in front of my house. They didn't shoot each other that day; just yelled, waved the guns, and shot a few rounds up into the air. I lived there for 4 years and they never threatened ME in any way.

If, in the highly unlikely event that I'm ever attacked and unable to defend myself, you happen to be present with a gun, I'll take your protection. Better you than my black belt son, who is generally peaceable but a pitbull when it comes to looking out for his mom.

[Howzit]

28. What about this woman who shot her attacker with his gun, after he shot her?

http://www.wpbf.com/news/19195543/detail.html

I suppose she was paranoid about being harmed and over-reacted?

[LWolf]

29. Not at all.

Why would you assume she was being paranoid? :wtf:

[Vickers]

8. That reminds me...I need to renew my CCW permit.

:thumbsup:

[slackmaster]

10. That's one nice thing about AA meetings

They don't serve alcohol, so your CCW permit is good as long as the owners of the venue don't prohibit weapons.

[Furyataurus]

22. Sort of like that Burger King robber

who didn't get it his way :rofl:

[OrdinaryGuy84]

23. Good for him! n/t

.

[Giuseppe Mazzini]

24. Good for him.

If a person points a weapon at another person and is killed I really can't have sympathy for them. It doesn't matter if your poor, the second you think a person's life is less valuable than yours and you are physically threating another person with a firearm, then I applaud the person that neutralizes the threat. I am not for capital punishment because at this time the perpetrator is contained.