i dont know what drugs the Chicago City Attorneys are on

[bossy22]

but i want me some of them!!!!

http://www.chicagoguncase.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/appellees_brief_mcdonald.pdf

look at part C of their brief...they use the argument basically that there is no right to a handgun and that the second amendment is a collective right (well basically...not in actual words)


edit: on further reading they dont refute that there is an individual right...they refute that its main purpose was self-defense and go on to argue that its main purpose was to allow for the states to arm a militia...and therefore should not be incorporated.....

still a very silly argument

[imdjh]

1. These people really like ink

or as my mother would say, "They really like the sound of their own voice."

[Hoopla Phil]

2. Yeah, just ignore that silly Heller thing.

[spin]

3. If I was a criminal, I would move to Chicago...

Chi-Town is one really criminal friendly city. Why take chances in a town that allows it's citizens to be armed for self defense. Lead poisoning can be deadly.

And you can be sure that once I moved to the Windy City, I would register to vote and cast my ballot for the current group of politicians. Nothing like friends in high places.

[one-eyed fat man]

5. huh?

You don't have to live in Chicago to vote there. Hell, you don't even have to be ALIVE to vote in Chicago!

[dashrif]

9. Ass

I just spit coffee all over the place :spray:

[one-eyed fat man]

12. Chicago politicians

have always been the best money could buy. In one famous incident, Al Capone publicly threw the Mayor down the steps of City Hall, beat and kicked him unconscious while a police officer worked hard to avert his gaze.

At least back then you knew who owned them.

[jmg257]

11. LOL! Ahhh - funny shit!

[Abq_Sarah]

4. You have to wonder if they'd also argue

That the first amendment shouldn't be incorporated because it takes rights away from the states.

Governments seem to always end up being antagonistic towards the citizens that allow them to operate.

[slackmaster]

6. If they want a showdown in SCOTUS this might not be very good timing on their part

:rofl:

[X_Digger]

7. tortured logic!

"Only 22 of the 38 state constitutions had a right to bear arms provision at the time of the ratification" (paraphrased)

ONLY 60%? *gasp* (nevermind that a decade later, that was 80%)

[jmg257]

8. Of course it's silly. The main purpose was to require the new govt had use of effective militias.

Wouldn't do them ANY good if the States could deprive them of those effective forces, especially by interfering with their arms (including handguns, which were included in the arms the people provide themselves with).

Of course another primary purpose was to make sure that the feds couldn't abuse their new militia powers to deprive the people of the right to arms, whether related to the militia or not (and also deprive the states of effective miltias too - their only means of defense).


Most certainly, the states should be able to infringe on the right to arms NO MORE then the feds should.

[DonP]

10. Daley will push it all the way to SCOTUS if he can and to hell with the lawyers bills ...

Then ignore any SCOTUS decision for as long as he's in office.

DC is doing it now with their incredibly stupid "Machine Gun" definition.

Daley has shown he will spend millions of tax $ that should go to schools, infrastructure and a police contract (none for 5 years so far) to fight any form of loosening his gun bans.

He's had a total handgun ban since 1982 along with annual required registration of any long guns (no semi autos either). And we're still running neck and neck with DC for most murders every year.

He is totally irrational about it.

Chicago is bidding on the 2016 Olympics and Daley demanded that all the shooting venue be moved out of Cook County. When the Olympic committee said that was too far from the other venues, he allowed them to be moved slightly closer, but still well outside of the City of Chicago.

After all, you never know when some Olympic competitor will go berserk and take their $25,000+ single shot target rifle and knock over a 7-11.

He's an idiot about this issue.

[chibajoe]

13. The 9th Circuit Court has already

incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

[X_Digger]

14. unfortunately, the 9th circuit doesn't cover IL

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view.php?pk_id=0000000135