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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:39 PM Original message |
Why I'm skeptical of people who open carry. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Same here. I support open-carry but I also support ZERO tolerance for people who... |
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LetsgoWings13 (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. i agree. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's pretty much how I feel. nt |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was in Tempe, AZ last weekend... |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would think about 70% of the open carry are morons.... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I doubt very much if the number is that high. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
179. Any data, or just straight-line prejudice? nt |
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rusty quoin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. We have all seen idiots who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yes, we have, and I've been driving very defensively for the same |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. darn those pesky civil rights |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Open carry is not a civil right. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. RKBA arms IS a civil right |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
69. Holy shit... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. i didn't compare MYSELF to anybody |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. If you were comparing two civil rights issues, |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:21 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. And once again |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. And once again I say Bush v. Gore, |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. What the hell does |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #87 |
173. Even the dissenting justices agreed that the 2nd Amendment |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
183. Funny, you should bring up Bush v. Gore... |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
201. You should be grateful |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #81 |
85. rights are not GIVEN to the people |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. I choose one word poorly in my haste to answer your idiocy |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. it is indicative of your lack of understanding of civil rights |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. You dodged the question, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. which question |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I believe there was a very clear question mark in #91. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. yes, i have heard of logical fallacies |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Distraction. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. i gave you the answer |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. To quote, and be very clear: |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:59 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. here you go |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. OK then, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:07 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. you don't have to believe in a creator |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:11 AM Response to Reply #120 |
124. That's hilarious. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #124 |
129. evolution creates emergent properties |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:25 AM Response to Reply #129 |
134. Nice dodge. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #117 |
132. Oh. My. Effin'. God. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:32 AM Response to Reply #132 |
140. i'm done with him/her/it |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #140 |
142. Actually, I think it might be a reflection of the state of our education system. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #140 |
143. . |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #143 |
146. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Until you show me something besides your own ramblings, yes. n/t |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
178. Try the ninth and tenth amendments, sport.. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #178 |
188. It's not as cut and dried as you'd like to think. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #188 |
190. Nice dodge. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #150 |
185. Get ye to a seminar on con law. nt |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 08:37 AM Response to Reply #132 |
177. It's a simple matter of perspective |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:40 AM Response to Reply #117 |
169. So, you would have us err on the side of authoritarianism? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #117 |
194. As an atheist |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
168. Once again, I say "your concept of a right is shallow." |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #91 |
184. Rights are RECOGNIZED as pre-existing. They are not granted... |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. Your arguement about your interpertation |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Oh please. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:24 AM Original message |
it wasn't 5-4 on whether it's an individual right |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
89. You're saying DC v. Heller was NOT 5-4? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. ONCE AGAIN |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Shouting doesn't help your case. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:35 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Thats not what we said |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. Not Stevens. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Nope your wrong again |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:45 AM Response to Reply #100 |
103. YOU'RE. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Man you really are uniformed |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Read it again. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. I have read it |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Apparently not closely enough. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #112 |
175. Here is the actual text of the dissent |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #89 |
193. You should actually read the dissenting opinions. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Try again |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Before |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #69 |
182. Well, here it is for the umpteenth time... |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
199. What the second amendment means to me. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
167. And you just made a conclusory statement. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. You've articulated exactly how most non gun enthusiasts feel about it |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's how many enthusiasts feel about it, too. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
203. I think you make an excellent point. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
174. Why do diamond merchants have "a reason to be packing"? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Deleted message |
MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. That's actually beside the point. The point is that some people |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. While that may be true for a small number of people who carry... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. My wife carries. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. And how long will it take you to reach for your concealed weapon |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #70 |
116. Gee than why |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:18 AM Response to Reply #116 |
128. If EVERYONE carried concealed, |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. Thats pure bullshit |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:27 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. That's exactly what I said. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. The only thing wrong |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:35 AM Response to Reply #138 |
145. Remember that the next time you hear that a cop was shot while off duty. n/t |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #136 |
181. No they'll choose an easier victim. n/t |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #116 |
180. The reason the crime rate has been falling... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 05:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
165. That is why it is our responsibility to deny them that tactical advantage. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:47 AM Response to Reply #70 |
170. Um, if you witness a crime in progress, you have prevented nothing. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Yeah, that's why I carry a S&W Ladysmith. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
171. Those Ladysmiths are kick-awesome carry guns. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
12. Interesting thought... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. it was a challenge. just like rosa parks or other civil rights demonstrations |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
43. you're kidding... right? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. they are not protesting the 2nd amendment |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. you can stand on your head for all I care |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. if i saw a person with blood on his hands holding a knife |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. helllOOOOOooooo |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Should we assume you are not aware the "tree of liberty" quote is from |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:45 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. Attempting to claim |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #72 |
118. If he had openly |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #118 |
125. That is false, and you know it. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:16 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. I said that if he had openly |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. And I told you that was a false statement. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #130 |
135. How is it a red herring? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:37 AM Response to Reply #125 |
147. This guy wasn't on the internet. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:42 AM Response to Reply #147 |
154. And I support |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
196. I never said he would condone it. I just reported what TJ was known to have said, I didn't try to |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
204. Few look at the context of Jefferson's statement. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. expressing your civil rights is often discourteous |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. You should be forced to apologize. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. i am being "discourteous" to make a point |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:36 AM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Like hell. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:41 AM Response to Reply #95 |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #98 |
106. MY immaturity? |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:06 AM Response to Reply #75 |
119. You should apologize for being |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:14 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. Ah, so ANOTHER poor, persecuted |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Ha ha ha |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:29 AM Response to Reply #131 |
137. WHOA, that's a false dichotomy. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:34 AM Response to Reply #137 |
144. I never said you were coming for my |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #144 |
149. In fact I do know what it takes, |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #149 |
153. I'm pretty sure I don't need 100 hours of class time... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:46 AM Response to Reply #153 |
156. But you DO need appropriate instruction in how to handle that firearm in a crisis. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. Vermont seems to do quite well without any legal restrains to speak of. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Vermont? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:46 AM Response to Reply #161 |
163. As I thought. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:56 AM Response to Reply #163 |
164. I suspected you would try that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #75 |
148. Deleted message |
darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #148 |
152. So because I think |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:44 AM Response to Reply #152 |
155. "You should be forced to apologize..." |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #155 |
158. It's probably not the only reason your eyes cross. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #158 |
160. And again you condone unwarranted violence. Good night to you. n/t |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:08 AM Response to Reply #160 |
162. Oh, damn, that makes me no different than the Obama protester...n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #152 |
157. No-one was disparaging anyone. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:28 AM Response to Reply #75 |
186. Are you pining to force an apology? Or do you wish to "farm it out?" |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 07:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
176. So the problem wasn't the gun per se |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I had a friend at Kent State University in Ohio in 1970 who learned to worry |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. And keeping your guns |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #73 |
121. Gee tell that |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:33 AM Response to Reply #121 |
141. False parallel. |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
123. So are you |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:30 AM Response to Reply #123 |
139. See #137. n/t |
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cowman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:40 AM Response to Reply #139 |
151. Well |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 05:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
200. Can you handle some brutal honesty? It's important because I don't want some asshole fascist |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Thank you. I like to call them 'salad bar' Constitutionalists, they are much like |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
71. See #69. n/t |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
14. I just have no idea why anyone feels the need to do that at all |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. ah,the NEED canard. "feels the need" |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Thanks for a completely |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. thanks for ignoring facts |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
187. In some places, open-carry is the only way one can "bear"arms... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
202. Well, in California they have no choice |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #202 |
205. But I thought they couldn't be loaded |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. You can have magazines or speedloaders on the opposite hip. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. less than one second to pull a trigger on a |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #208 |
210. You seem to imply that the lawful Citizen will always be in full view of the criminal. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:21 PM Response to Reply #210 |
211. and if pigs had wings they could fly |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #211 |
214. I'm not sure what your point is. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 06:53 AM Response to Reply #214 |
215. So, you ask for data |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #215 |
217. Point by point... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. The firearm must be unloaded, but the ammo may be carried seperatly n/t |
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shedevil69taz (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
213. It's unfortunate that you feel intimidated |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
15. Open carry or hidden, I beat it outta there when I know someone is carrying. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Then if you are in a room of more than 30 people... statistics say 1 of them will have a CCW. |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Keyword - "know" |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Perhaps that is the genesis of the phrase "ignorance is bliss"? |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
198. So because you don't see it and you don't know it ...it must not exist, right? |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. I did too when I lived in Florida. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
191. Welcome to DU. How did you know someone was carrying in Florida... |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Argh, I was trying (obviously poorly) for sarcasm. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 03:35 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. There's a smilies lookup table just above your reply text ... |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. Well I got shot at once... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Great story! LOL (n/t) |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
17. Makes perfect sense. I avoid getting near anyone who has no visible firearm on their person, |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. golf clap nt |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. If I lived in Jalisco, I'd do the same. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. you should PREFER open carry then |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
38. Look, I have a concealed carry license. I carry very rarely. |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. It just seems odd to me that you seem to be more fearful when you have more information |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It's interesting that you use the word "fearful." |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Okay, your words were "skeptical" and "uneasy". Taken together, they sure do appear to |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. If you knew me, you'd know that fear is not one of my attributes. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. ok, i giggled |
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Mother Smuckers (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Yes, let's. However, fear is not an attribute, it's a condition...or emotion. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #56 |
189. "Fear," a useful emotion, is weilded like a bludgeon around here... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
24. How do you feel about people who are licensed to carry concealed? ... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
27. What difference does it make if they're carrying openly? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
29. I'm sceptical of people who vote in public. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. ROFL. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Score ------- 100 points!!! n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I just vote using an absentee ballot ... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
76. Sure... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You are entirely correct. |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
99. So you're telling me |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:02 AM Response to Reply #99 |
115. For your first scenario... |
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darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #115 |
122. That is patently ridiculous. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:58 AM Response to Reply #122 |
172. Don't blame me, I just voted for him. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #99 |
166. Do you pay taxes? N/T |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. In my state we don't need a license to carry a firearm. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
33. Taking this line of thinking to it's logical conclusion we have to assume |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Actually, I drive quite a lot. I practice extreme defensive driving, |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
42. I don't view it any differently than having to trust other drivers on the road who are a few feet |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. I'm skeptical of other drivers, too. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. sure, I see that now from your posts, but perhaps you're like me, and you still drive on highways . |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
49. Holland v. Commonwealth, 1956 |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. That's fine. That's the law in Kentucky. I will still behave exactly |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
66. I prefer CCW. |
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David West (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I open carry |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-09-10 11:57 PM Response to Original message |
74. let any fool who wants to open carry. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 12:19 AM Response to Reply #74 |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
192. The only holster I can think of that comes close to your suggestion ... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
207. I will repeat myself. |
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jazzhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
212. Hmm. Looks like hate *is* a family value to some. n/t |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
216. What makes someone concealed carry safer? |
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