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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:18 AM Original message |
Calderon is correct - the lifting of the ban on assault weapons |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. k&r |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. I'm impressed too... |
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BolivarianHero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm impressed... |
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katzenjammers (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Not sensible. He's nuttier than a shithouse rat. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Link? nt |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. fail. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. well, obviously you know more than the mexican president..... |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. felipe IS a tool, I probably DO know more. nt |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. He certainly knows more about U.S. firearms law than the Mexican President does... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
53. Actually, military weapons DO cross the US border to go to the cartels. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Butbutbutbut... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. THIS POST IS FLAME BAIT |
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greencharlie (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. +1 nt |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. This room is flamebait. nt |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
9. They also make their way from Virginia to Canada. nt |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Did they grow legs? nt |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Correlation does not mean causation |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Of course not, gun advocates are always right, the rest of us are scum |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. I blame color TV for the rise in murders in the 60's and 70's. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. You aren't funny, stop trying. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Speak for yourself |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. Funny how it's all our fault. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 06:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
51. Well, in a way it *is* |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
14. And then there is this...... |
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russ1943 (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. And there also is this. |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "semi automatic assault rifles" - really, tell us more |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. These are semis |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. "military weapons, including 140 semi automatic assault rifles" |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. Oh no, not 10,000 rounds of ammunition. Shit, I must out-gun the mexican army by myself. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:06 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Riiiiight |
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freebrew (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Seems too simple. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 07:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Highly implausible |
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katzenjammers (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. Odd how Calderon was a goofy rightwing asshole until he joined the anti-gun forces |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. Anything to detract attention from his own government. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. This is how much friggin' money these gangs have |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
20. And How many of these fully auto weapons are the US Govt Supplying? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 05:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Anyone reminded of Yuri Orlov's last words to Agent Valentine? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. Some numbers - Calderon is full of it! |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. These are not the weapons in use in third world countries. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
24. Fail, they don't make AKs in the U.S. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 04:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Depends on what you mean by "AK" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
30. The ban was not "lifted" - It expired automatically as it was designed to do |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. Perhaps Calderon wants the U.S. disarmed ... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. It's an ever widening circle that ignores failed prohibitionist policies |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. Ummm, the 1994 law DIDN'T BAN ANY GUNS, and its expiration didn't legalize any guns. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. The 1994 law specifically banned by name: |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. They just changed the names & features.. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I *OWN* a ban-era AK (2002). The law banned 19 *names*; the guns stayed legal. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 06:31 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Yep, I wonder why |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. They did it that way because they're ignorant |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. The only meaningful functional category in that list is revolving-cylinder shotguns |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. And those were already controlled under the National Firearms Act |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yeah, during the ban those $30 AR or AK mags were just too much for the drug cartels |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. $9.99 for a 30-round Romanian import, $5.99 for a Hungarian 20-rounder, in 2002-2003. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Its true -- I guess I was just trying to say that ending the ban didn't make "assault weapons:" |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-20-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yup. No affect whatsoever. (n/t) |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
50. Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy |
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