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jpak
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Sun May-01-11 04:19 PM Original message |
Wirtz: Guns and the public: Rights vs. responsibility |
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spin
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Sun May-01-11 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. I carry concealed ... |
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GKirk
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Sun May-01-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I don't like scaring |
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spin
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Sun May-01-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. That could be a problem ... |
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GKirk
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Sun May-01-11 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. Glad to see your're a fan of concealed carry |
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Taitertots
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Sun May-01-11 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Tough shit for Christine Tudor |
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GKirk
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Sun May-01-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Media coverage has made it so |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I disagree. |
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Taitertots
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Sun May-01-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I should have written that they are irrelevant to policy decision making |
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Tuesday Afternoon
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Sun May-01-11 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. never mind |
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GreenStormCloud
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Sun May-01-11 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. She needs to teach her daughter to not be afraid. N/T |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Somebody needs to do the same to all those who can't walk into WMart without a friggin gun. |
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Taitertots
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Sun May-01-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Why, the only problem they cause is upsetting people who have no reason to be upset |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. OP indicates a negative effect. Gun toters laugh it off, because they can't leave their guns home. |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Don't worry Hoyt... |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Exactly, it needs to be "taboo" and not glamorized in a civil society, even if it scares you. |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
256. If only that we really did live in a "civil society". Unfortunately we don't |
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Taitertots
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Sun May-01-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. The unjustified fears held by children don't count as a negative effect |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Figures. That's why you tote -- don't care as long as you've got your protection from boogie man. |
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Taitertots
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Sun May-01-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I never carry a gun |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
257. Protection against the "boogie man" or against the mugger in the |
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petronius
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Sun May-01-11 06:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. You keep using that word "can't", although it's clear you don't know what it means |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I do. Means many carriers are psychologically unprepared to face life without a gun in their pants. |
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petronius
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Sun May-01-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Looks like there's a bunch more words you don't understand. For your own good, I strongly |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
57. Always with your veiled insults, do they make you feel superior? |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Mon May-02-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
90. And you base your diagnosis on something other than your own prejudice? |
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spin
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Mon May-02-11 07:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
96. You appear to have an irrational fear of those who carry ... |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
259. You know this how? Psychometry or clairvoyance? |
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Abq_Sarah
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Wed Jun-22-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
272. Your hostility is noted |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
56. "Gun toters laugh it off, because they can't leave their guns home" |
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Bold Lib
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Sun May-01-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. And you know this how? Is it your failed clairvoyance or your bigoted stereotyping? |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Fact. Discriminating against guns is a tolerable form of "bigotry." People, that's different. |
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Sun May-01-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
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rrneck
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Sun May-01-11 10:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. The guns don't care |
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Sun May-01-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
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PavePusher
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Sun May-01-11 11:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Hmmm, I guess my truth stung. n/t |
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Bold Lib
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Mon May-02-11 11:57 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. You declaring something "fact" does not make it so. |
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Euromutt
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Thu May-05-11 09:32 PM Response to Reply #34 |
250. "People, that's different," he said, and proceeded to demonstrate |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. It's not like this child |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. you're right, it isn't like she was the first to do that |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Location joke sir |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I almost like it better |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Did not mean to be offensive sir I will alter my post accordingly NT |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. context is everything |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. My apologies sir |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Apparently you haven't heard me described |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
255. I believe that Iverglas is female. And a rape surviver as well. |
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ileus
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Wed Jun-22-11 07:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
268. We're the ones concerned about society...if we were afraid we'd carry carbines and shotguns. |
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provis99
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Sun May-01-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. gun owners should be responsible? That's communist talk! |
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Hoyt
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Sun May-01-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. LMAO |
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gejohnston
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Sun May-01-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. you have us confused with the middle east |
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provis99
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Sun May-01-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. even cops fire their guns in the air for fun in America. |
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gejohnston
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Sun May-01-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Not America, the south |
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Tuesday Afternoon
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Sun May-01-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. alert |
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rrneck
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Sun May-01-11 10:23 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Thank you. |
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PavePusher
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Sun May-01-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. 50%, last time I looked... |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Is Albany Georgia still not part of the US? |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
17. In short... |
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PavePusher
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Sun May-01-11 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
20. Perhaps Mr. Wirtz and Ms. Tudor can explain to this little girl that mere peaceful exercise... |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. This IS the new tactic. |
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friendly_iconoclast
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Sun May-01-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Eventually, they out themselves. Strangely, *their* guns are never a problem... |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. They can't help it. |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
54. or perhaps they can't |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Just because YOU are afraid of something does NOT make it |
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Mon May-02-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #60 |
258. Hey hey hey there. Don't you be dissen the Harley's. |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. "(y'all missed me, didn't you?)" |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. oh, dear |
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rl6214
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Tue May-03-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
106. I'm not the one with the ego asking if I was missed |
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iverglas
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Tue May-03-11 06:41 AM Response to Reply #106 |
113. no ... |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-03-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Unfourtunately he has gone into the great beyond of Pizzaland NT |
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iverglas
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Tue May-03-11 10:30 AM Response to Reply #119 |
137. oh |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
262. Not really, there is only one person on my ignore list. |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. festooned in firearms |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. ha! snow! |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Others have tried what? |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. what? what? |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. My firearm (singular) isn't a decoration |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #80 |
263. "Now where have I heard that before?" |
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beevul
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Mon May-02-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
94. Another nasty yet eloquent demonstration of that word... |
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PavePusher
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Mon May-02-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
97. More hyperbole, accusation, insinuation and assertion from you... |
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petronius
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Tue May-03-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
105. I would not call that a useful definition of intimidation - where do we draw the line? |
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Bold Lib
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Sun May-01-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
25. Sounds like mom screwed up a great "teachable moment" to me. |
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Sun May-01-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Exactly. |
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beevul
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Sun May-01-11 07:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. That all depends. |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
260. You did make a point there. n/t |
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Sun May-01-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. +1 |
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Katya Mullethov
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Mon May-02-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. "IF YOU DONT BEHAVE ....." |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
261. As a former dog trainer I certainly understand from were you are coming. |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. absolutely |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Sweetie, that man may be a detective, they don't wear uniforms |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. oh, give me a great big break |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Plain Clothes doesn't always mean undercover |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
253. That is correct. In Victoria TX there is a WalMart super store |
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X_Digger
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Mon May-02-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Who said anything about undercover? |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. aaaaargh |
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Mon May-02-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
102. Urrgh. |
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ProgressiveProfessor
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Mon May-02-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
92. Here in warm weather areas, many plain clothes officer and open carry civilians look the same |
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Tue May-03-11 03:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
107. Not a clue, do you |
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Thu May-05-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
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Wed Jun-22-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
269. moms scared of guns also...she another grabber, raising a future grabber. |
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Sun May-01-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. Responsibility? |
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Mon May-02-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
46. "Look, Mommy... that man is kissing another man"!!! |
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Mon May-02-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Last I heard, guns weren't included in "race, sexual orientation, gender, age, etc." |
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Mon May-02-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Why am I not surprised you are unfamilar with Heller vs. District of Columbia? |
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Mon May-02-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Heller has to do with guns in HOME. Besides we aren't talking about law. |
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Mon May-02-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
98. Please cite where Heller restricted guns only to homes. |
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Hoyt
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Mon May-02-11 11:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Read the dang decision. It has absolutely nothing to do with packing in public, except in your mind. |
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Tue May-03-11 12:47 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Even you could type in the relevant part restricting that right to residences.... |
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X_Digger
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Tue May-03-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #99 |
139. Here's a link for you.. |
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Tue May-03-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #139 |
149. Thank you. Class, here's an example of what *honest* people do in an argument. |
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Tue May-03-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #149 |
153. fascinating |
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Tue May-03-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. "Self-defense within a home" was given as an *example* of a lawful purpose |
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Wed May-04-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #156 |
166. did you just not read my post? |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 11:53 PM Response to Reply #139 |
266. Ah, thank you for the link and the original topic. |
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Thu May-05-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
265. You may want to re-read the Heller decision. You've mistakenly applied |
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Mon May-02-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. well ... |
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Hoyt
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Mon May-02-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Great Post and Humor. |
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Mon May-02-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. tsk |
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Mon May-02-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
91. Unreasoned fear is unreasoned fear and her parents need to help the child deal with them |
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Mon May-02-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. Maybe you need to deal with it on other than a child's -- I can't go in WMart w/out my gun -- level. |
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Wed May-04-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #100 |
173. What's so special about WM? I carry everywhere... |
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Wed May-04-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #100 |
175. If the child is reacting unreasonably to objects, why is it the responsibility of others to act? |
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Thu May-05-11 09:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
249. The analogy doesn't pertain to personal characteristics, but to public behavior |
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Hoopla Phil
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Thu May-05-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #46 |
264. WOW!!! Did THAT put things into perspective. Congratulations! n/t |
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AtheistCrusader
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Mon May-02-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
47. Does she freak out when she sees a police officer? |
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rl6214
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Mon May-02-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
53. And does she whine and cry when she sees a cop? |
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Logical
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Mon May-02-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. You don't see the difference? Uniform? n-t |
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rl6214
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Tue May-03-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #75 |
108. Not always |
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Logical
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Tue May-03-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #108 |
138. Most detectives go concealed. n-t |
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rl6214
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Wed May-04-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #138 |
163. Not here in west Texas |
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gejohnston
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Wed May-04-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #138 |
170. Not in Florida |
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iverglas
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Mon May-02-11 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
74. since two of you have asked now, someone should answer |
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Mon May-02-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. wonder why cops not in uniform would do that anywhere? |
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Mon May-02-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. urgh |
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RSillsbee
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Mon May-02-11 04:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. In the frozen wastelands |
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rl6214
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Tue May-03-11 03:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
110. Here in the south it gets to be over 100 most of the summer |
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rl6214
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Tue May-03-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #74 |
109. I would imagine you whining and crying when seeing a gun |
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RSillsbee
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Tue May-03-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #109 |
120. To be fair |
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Fri May-06-11 12:22 AM Response to Reply #74 |
267. Lol. |
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Mon May-02-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
76. Not a fan of open carry myself. CC is good enough and not many issues with it. n-t |
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Mon May-02-11 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
93. OC a lot? how do you know it sucks if you don't |
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Mon May-02-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Hopefully day will come when more people say something. "Scared" is having to have a gun |
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Tue May-03-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Advocating harrasment of those doing something you find morally wrong? |
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Tue May-03-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #104 |
117. LOL Parading around with guns reminds me of the guy down the street that flies a confederate flag. |
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Tue May-03-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #117 |
144. So now you conflate firearms with implied bigotry.... |
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Tue May-03-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. you're not even conflating; you're just flat-out misrepresenting |
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Tue May-03-11 11:52 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. Who decided whats antisocial... |
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Wed May-04-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #160 |
168. nobody |
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Tue May-03-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #101 |
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Tue May-03-11 07:29 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. You don't need to "exercise" all Constitutional rights. |
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Tue May-03-11 09:32 AM Response to Reply #116 |
121. By what right do you |
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Tue May-03-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #121 |
126. I'm exercising my right to call a fool a fool. |
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Tue May-03-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #126 |
128. You have every right to your opinion |
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Tue May-03-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #126 |
147. So they are a fool |
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Tue May-03-11 04:38 AM Response to Original message |
111. Found this on a gun sight forum today from this event |
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Tue May-03-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. snork snork snork |
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Tue May-03-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #114 |
123. If you were at all familiar w/ Firestorm arms |
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Tue May-03-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #123 |
131. ah, so ... |
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Tue May-03-11 10:17 AM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Close but no |
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Tue May-03-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Admittedly, that's funny. Probably bought it for the name-- ain't that a TBag supremacist Web site? |
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Tue May-03-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #134 |
146. Nope, you are thinking of St******nt. N/T |
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Tue May-03-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #114 |
145. It isn't unusual to carry two guns. |
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Tue May-03-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. "Solid tactical reasons" -- in a friggin Wal Mart. Somebody needs some serious help. |
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Tue May-03-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. Because mass murderers always announce where they intend to commit murder? |
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Tue May-03-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Oh, I'm glad to have you guys watching out for us- NOT. Keep em at home where they belong. |
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Tue May-03-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. When are you going to get it? It's not about saving YOUR ass.. |
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Tue May-03-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. When are you going to get it. Don't care, if you have to use gun in crowd to save your arse- DON'T. |
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Tue May-03-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Not your decision to make, thankfully. |
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Wed May-04-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #158 |
165. Surely you can point to dozens of incidents that played out as you insinuate, yes? |
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Wed May-04-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #152 |
164. Not watching out for you, I'm watching out for myself and my family |
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Wed May-04-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Would rather take care of myself in these situations. Are you a two gun toter too? |
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Wed May-04-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #152 |
172. Be sure to always wear a shirt indicating your thoughts on guns |
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Wed May-04-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #148 |
171. Crime can happen anywhere. |
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Tue May-03-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. always nice to know what happened |
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Tue May-03-11 09:40 AM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Or maybe a yellow Star of David affixed to their clothing? |
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Tue May-03-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #122 |
135. I speak only in the interests of the gun toters! |
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Tue May-03-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #135 |
141. Since you haven't denied being a lawyer |
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Tue May-03-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. I haven't denied being an astronaut, either |
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Tue May-03-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. If you showed up in my state |
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Tue May-03-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #143 |
150. nope |
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Tue May-03-11 08:16 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Colorado law |
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Wed May-04-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #150 |
161. Finally...I'm so relieved. |
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Wed May-04-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #161 |
167. oooh, "festoonery"! |
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Wed Jun-22-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #142 |
273. A cop stopping you. The difference is that |
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Tue May-03-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Two friggin guns -- what's this guy afraid of. Is laughing your arse off at someone illegal. |
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Tue May-03-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #118 |
124. Of course it isn't illegal , It might be stupid but not illegal |
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Tue May-03-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Don' t "pee my pants or run like a little girl"- nor am I so afraid of WMart that I carry even 1 gun |
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Tue May-03-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. I never stated that any one person might pee their pant or run like a little girl |
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Tue May-03-11 10:12 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. Maybe one should listen to those who have investigate a fool's poor choice of parading around with 2 |
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Tue May-03-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. You are asking me to speculate |
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Tue May-03-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Disagree, NRA4Ever. |
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Tue May-03-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #132 |
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Wed May-04-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #132 |
162. Your disagreement is noted. |
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Wed May-04-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #132 |
174. Prickish behavior that upsets people is a criminal offense now? |
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Wed May-04-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. We are not talking about any of those groups. We're talking about people who carry guns into public |
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Thu May-05-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Ah yes, the key difference is that *you* dislike this one group |
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Thu May-05-11 09:43 AM Response to Reply #177 |
180. There you go again - demeaning civil right movement - comparing your desire for guns to human rights |
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Thu May-05-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #180 |
182. I remember that white racists were big fans of gun control |
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Thu May-05-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #182 |
185. Way to solve that is not allow anyone to carry in public. Don't care if 3% that pack laugh at me. |
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Thu May-05-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. How are you still not getting this? |
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Thu May-05-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. 300+ Million don't have desire for a permit to carry in public. They are rational. |
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Thu May-05-11 10:13 AM Response to Reply #189 |
190. [citation needed] |
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Thu May-05-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #189 |
194. Including teabag Republicans that dont carry? nt |
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Thu May-05-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #194 |
195. Yea, the one or two. |
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Thu May-05-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #195 |
197. Busted again. |
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Thu May-05-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #189 |
203. 300+ Million also don't seem to have a real huge problem with it. |
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Thu May-05-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #189 |
251. No, they don't HAVE a permit; that's not the same as not desiring one |
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Thu May-05-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #185 |
193. In spite of the fact that those 3% are hyper law-abiding? |
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Thu May-05-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #193 |
196. Hyper law abiding? How about those who qualify for a permit, but don't carry? |
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Thu May-05-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #196 |
198. We are talking about those who carry. |
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Thu May-05-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. "That may be, but your anecdotes don't trump good statistical data" |
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Thu May-05-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #204 |
207. Yes, we do have good statistical data. |
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Thu May-05-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #207 |
211. I'm afraid I get off the bus here |
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Thu May-05-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. Neither one. |
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Thu May-05-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #196 |
202. just for future ref |
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Thu May-05-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #202 |
213. Because that is not the case being made. |
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Thu May-05-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. whoever "they" are |
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Thu May-05-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #216 |
221. Semantics. |
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Thu May-05-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #221 |
223. demagoguery |
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Thu May-05-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #223 |
225. Some points. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:17 PM Response to Reply #225 |
228. snork |
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Thu May-05-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #228 |
231. Then feel free to stand in open fields during storms. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #231 |
235. but but but |
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Thu May-05-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #235 |
240. Again... |
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Thu May-05-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. nope |
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Thu May-05-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #243 |
254. On guarantees. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #216 |
232. "It's antisocial, and it's the sign of a very sick society..." |
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Thu May-05-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. I don't know, do I? |
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Thu May-05-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #236 |
241. Good. |
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Thu May-05-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #236 |
242. You did say that. |
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Thu May-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. it's truly sad |
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Thu May-05-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #244 |
246. I believe I quoted you quite faithfully. |
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Thu May-05-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #246 |
247. do you own a dictionary? |
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Thu May-05-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Yes, everyone takes your words out of context. Or something. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #202 |
230. To be a permit-holder you have to be certified a non-criminal. Duh. |
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Thu May-05-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #176 |
179. analogies are incomprehensible to them |
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Thu May-05-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Should have read your post -- a better way to put it -- before responding to their sick analogy. |
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Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #179 |
183. Here's a historical reference for ya: |
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Thu May-05-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. This is very different movement - ban all guns in public. Hope you enjoy demeaning real civil rights |
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Thu May-05-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #186 |
188. Promoting rights for everyone, is in, your mind, demeaning civil rights |
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Thu May-05-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #186 |
238. "...keep and bear arms..." is a "real Civil Right".... |
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Thu May-05-11 06:10 PM Response to Reply #238 |
245. interesting you should say that |
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Thu May-05-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #183 |
191. here's a blatant assertion devoid of truth for you |
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Thu May-05-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #191 |
205. "Here's a true statement though" |
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Thu May-05-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. why does nobody here ever cite George P. Mahoney?? |
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Thu May-05-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #206 |
208. So one guy |
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Thu May-05-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #208 |
210. yes, that's what I said all right |
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Wed Jun-22-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
270. "Is laughing your arse off at someone illegal" |
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Thu May-05-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
178. Maybe the solution is |
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Thu May-05-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
184. I read this one time, it seems to fit perfectly..: |
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Thu May-05-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #184 |
192. just not hard to find the source, is it? |
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Thu May-05-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #192 |
199. If Satan said it it would still be true. n/t |
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Thu May-05-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #199 |
200. if it were true |
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Thu May-05-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #200 |
209. Sure sounded true to me. |
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Thu May-05-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #184 |
201. the multicultural Buckeye Firearms Association |
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Thu May-05-11 02:12 PM Response to Reply #201 |
214. If you can't discredit the message... |
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Thu May-05-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #214 |
217. when the message is directly contradicted by the messenger |
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Thu May-05-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. I note that you have not debated the accracy of the statement at all. |
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Thu May-05-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #219 |
220. the accuracy of WHAT statement??? |
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Thu May-05-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #220 |
222. The very one you said was not true. |
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Thu May-05-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #222 |
224. you could demagogue for England, couldn't you? |
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Thu May-05-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #224 |
226. On truth. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #226 |
227. oh, go on then, |
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Thu May-05-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. I can't prove it's true. |
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Thu May-05-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. my own favourite |
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Thu May-05-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. Again... |
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Thu May-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. enough |
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Thu May-05-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #237 |
239. Sorry I wasn't entertaining enough for you. |
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Thu May-05-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #201 |
215. Your very amusing.. |
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Thu May-05-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #215 |
218. yeah, but these clocks |
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Wed Jun-22-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
271. You have the right and responsibility to OC or CC your choice. I support you... |
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