One step closer to expanded castle law in MN

[Oneka]

"The Defense of Dwelling and Person Act of 2011 is headed for the full House and Senate.

The bill passed the Senate Judiciary and Public Safety Committee tonight on an 8-3 vote."





http://www.gocra-mn.org/news/2011/05/stand-your-ground-passes-final-committee/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mn-gocra+%28GOCRA+News+Feed%29&utm_content=FeedBurner


The bill will move on to the fill house and senate early this coming week.
All indications point to Governor Dayton signing this bill if it passes the House and Senate which is likely.

Text of the bill :https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S1357.0.html&session=ls87

This law, if passed, will strengthen castle doctrine while falling short of full stand your ground, anywhere at any time.

It will also force the state or MN to fully comply with nics background information reporting.

The law will force MN into reciprocity agreements with all other states that have CCW permits. Out of state permit holders will still
be required to follow all applicable MN carry laws as if their permit was a MN permit.



All in all this looks like a very reasonable gun law.

[msongs]

1. protect yourself from gun owners by getting...your own gun nt

[Oneka]

2. Thats the

general idea,, yes.

I'd hate to be attacked by an armed criminal gun owner, and not have the tools needed to defend myself and my family.

[jpak]

4. I wonder how many law-abiding open-carry types will be shot by castle-protecting property owners

who feel threatened by their openly displayed guns?

:shrug:

[Hangingon]

5. Try that one again in english

[ileus]

6. Zero the same amount killed in all other states with OC and CD laws in place

[rl6214]

28. I wonder how many open carriers will be doing home invasions

[PavePusher]

21. Are you offering to help me provide for my personnal security?

Then I can get rid of my firearms. But I'm betting the answer is "No", your sort never volunteer for that.

[rl6214]

27. Or just curl up on the ground and cry like a little girl

and hope that the criminal spares your life.

Is that your option?

[jpak]

3. One step closer to legalized murder

yup

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[Oneka]

12. One mans

legalizes murder, is another man's justifiable homicide.

How you choose to characterize me defending myself against dangerous criminals is up to you, but here in the USA we still have the right to
defend ourselves, with tools, and actions up to and including lethal force.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

16. More proof by assertions and hyperbolic claims

[RSillsbee]

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It's called war

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[rl6214]

29. So just how long have you supported criminals?

Are you a criminal yourself and just looking out for your own self interest?

[ileus]

8. Reads like a pretty good bill, a little weak mabye but a win for MN people none the less

[Upton]

9. Good news..

IMO, Castle Doctrine should be the law of the land..

[barbtries]

10. very reasonable

if you consider it reasonable that people should go through their lives with the ability to kill somebody at any time with a simple pull of a trigger.

[Oneka]

11. we have had that ability as a people

for several hundred years. I only wish to defend myself from those who avail themselves of that ability with criminal intent.

is that really so unreasonable?

[PavePusher]

22. Are you volunteering to assist with my personnal security?

I'm betting the answer is "No", your sort never do...

[rl6214]

30. How long have you supported the rights of criminals?

Maybe you should start a union that criminals can join so they can fight these things and fight for better working conditions.

[gejohnston]

31. a little hyperbolic?

I don't know what the law in MN is, but giving a home invader, gangster, or a rapist a safe work environment or the ability to sue their victims for resisting is not the mark of a civilized society.

[spin]

13. Castle doctrine has worked well in Florida. (n/t)

[jpak]

14. What's the death toll up to now?

:shrug:

[spin]

17. I don't think anyone tracks that statistic ...

and to be honest, I really don't care how many criminals ended up dead because they invaded an occupied home in Florida.

[Oneka]

18. I'll head down there

this weekend with one of these...


and some hip waders.



I will report back here, with the total, as soon as i clean off the blood.

[spin]

23. You would be tracking criminals shot because they broke into occupied homes ...

without bothering to consider the fact that they were shot saved the lives of honest citizens who used firearms for legitimate self defense.

Sounds like you favor the lives of criminals and therefore consider the life of a predator as more valuable than the life of a productive citizen.

[Oneka]

24. i sure wish

i could figure out how to use the little sarcasm thingy.

[spin]

25. I just type :sarcasm: into my post ...

and it ends up looking like this :sarcasm: when I hit preview or post.

Welcome to DU.

[Oneka]

26. huh,, i'll be damned

:sarcasm:

[spin]

32. I had the same problem when I started posting on DU. (n/t)

[Common Sense Party]

33. Every time you're posting, you can just click on the "Smilies lookup table"

You'll find it next to where it says "Message options," above where you're typing your text.

The sarcasm thing is in there.

You can just copy and paste the whole : sarcasm : command into your post.

[Oneka]

34. Thanks guys.

:)

[RSillsbee]

20. 100% one death for every birth yup NT

[Taitertots]

15. Good, no one should be forced to capitulate to threats of violence

Sounds totally reasonable to me.