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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:41 AM Original message |
Gun bill: It's a chilling license to kill (MN Castle Law Insanity) |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. seems like this would legitimize all road-rage shootings |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yup - "He scared me so I shot him" !!!! |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It doesn't really work that way, but nice try. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. But you are talking about after the fact. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. "after the fact"... same as before the new law, right? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Exactly! |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. What do we here from cops all the time? |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. The police chief in question is an antigun mouthpiece. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. VPC/Brady |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. You two really ought to read the bill before spouting the crazy stuff. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Seems like you should be able to cite examples, what with the prevalence of Castle Doctrine laws |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 06:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Insane. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. An unintended and tragic |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. LMAO |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It's only "ridiculously scary" to people unable to look at the bill rationaly. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. ARE YOU THREATENING ME?!?! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Cite to this in other states... if you can. n/t |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I thought everyone |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. Finally, an end to those idiots with more than 12 items in the Express Checkout line |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. What a steaming pack of lies. Unrec. n/t |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
6. No one argues against this established right. |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
8. Look at what it allows..... |
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iwishiwas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
9. Look at what it allows..... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yet, amazingly.... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. Please, name those 'other states'. nt |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Florida has had a "stand your ground" law since 2005 ... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Texas. n/t |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. 31 states have some sort of Castle Doctrine or Stand your Ground law.... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You see no difference between 'castle doctrine' and 'stand your ground'? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Way to put words in my mouth. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Thanks for the link, and YOU put your words in your mouth, conflating |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. "(all southern and western states, but for Indiana)" |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. You know, this is why have problems with wide open 'stand your ground' laws. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. What I come up with is some twisted geographical elitism. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. As i said... |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Self delete. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I did absolutly no such thing. |
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KingSparta (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
60. on the topic - |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
65. "the training a police officer receives" - assumption/misconception |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
10. Let's just hope that |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
11. Uh-huh |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
14. more anti hyperbole...."I'm skeert of gunz, take em away!" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
20. Deleted message |
PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Except, of course, that you are either, ignorant, misinformed, or lying about the purpose and intent |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. You missed one... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Which has nothing to do with your misinterpretation. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
37. That sad part is people actually buy into the anti's lie. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. Not being liable for the innocent bystanders injuries is insane. Wow! n-t |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. What part of the bill does that? Example and link, plz. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Are those crickets I hear? Yes, I do believe those are crickets. |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Did you read the bill? |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 05:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. This is NOT blanket immunity!! |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Later on, this afternoon |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Nice try, but how does the statute distinguish the status of |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Let's examine the words |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You seem awfully self certain.. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. This statute |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. The Texas statue doesn't authorize killing innocents either... |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. This can't be more clear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Deleted message |
Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Cite a case |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Contrast the minnesota law with the Texas provision |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. No need to be a raging dick-hole about it. |
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whoneedstickets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I'm the smart ass? |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. He managed to produce , Teh fail |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Laws these days often attach that liability to the criminal. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-11-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
49. Chaska police chief scott knight is an antigun mouthpiece, and a drinker of brady/vpc kool-aide. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. Don't people already have the right to use deadly force outside of their home |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. In some states yes, in some no. |
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