Texas homeowner shot by his own gun during burglary.

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Mckinney Courier-gazette > News
Surrey Lane shooting victim upgraded to serious
By Danny Gallagher, [e-mail]
Published: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:14 AM CDT

Texas homeowner shot by his own gun during an early morning burglary has gone from critical to serious.
The victim told police he found three unidentified males rooting around his home and confronted them with a handgun. The suspects began to struggle with the homeowner, and the gun either accidentally discharged or the suspects intentionally shot the homeowner with his own weapon, McKinney police Lt. Mark Moyle said.





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[ileus]

1. He should have shot first if he had the drop on them...big mistake #1

[HankyDubs]

2. good luck dude

I really hope the gun crowd isn't going to claim that THIS was a DGU.

[PavePusher]

5. Huh? Three-on-one is not a defensive gun use?

Note I don't claim this as a succesful gun use.

Also note that one occurance does not invalidate thousands of other DGU's, nor validate the "You more likely to get shot with your own gun" school of thought.

[HankyDubs]

7. doesn't it validate?

Didn't he get shot with his own gun? Try to be honest here for a second. Isn't that exactly what happened here?

3 on 1? Guns only have two bullets in them?

[rl6214]

15. You try to get honest m*ran, I time does not validate shit

If you don't realize that you are too dishonest to even deal with.

[HankyDubs]

19. calm yourself

you've got some foam around the edges there.

[PavePusher]

23. It validates that it can happen.

I don't think anyone has ever catagorically denied that.

It does not validate the oft made claim that such a result is more likely than a succesful self-defense.

[YllwFvr]

30. how isnt it? nt

[PavePusher]

3. Note that it took three on one to accomplish that.

This means he waited too long.

[HankyDubs]

6. lol

literally blaming the victim.

I don't pray, but I hope you all take some time to send this guy some good vibes of one kind or another while you are critiquing his form.

In future, hopefully people don't end up shooting their own families in their own homes because of the "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude advocated here by pavepusher and the othe fella.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

9. In after action tactical analysis nothing should be off limits

where it is a armed confrontation or problems on the assembly line. It is only through brutal honesty can things improve. I have made my share of mistakes...the key is not repeat them

[HankyDubs]

12. you've made your share

no question about that.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

17. Cheap shot PA, considering you do not have a clue about who I am

I look at many thing in a Demming like manner...TQ and its successors have considerable merit. Many on the left should. It would make us much more effective.

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[rl6214]

16. Maybe you should try praying cuz what you're doing now

sure as hell isn't working.

[HankyDubs]

20. i don't believe in supernatural boogeymen

But I repeat that instead of attacking this man because he wasn't successful in defending himself, it would be nice if you could send some positive feelings for him since he's in critical condition.

Try this: pretend you're human.

[PavePusher]

22. Er, no, that was not my intent.

I do not blame the victim for being attacked, I do critique his tactical actions, to an extent. Admitedly I do so from an "armchair review" position...

It is quite possible that circumstances, both personnal and locational, prevented him from reacting in a more effective manner. Not enough detail in the report to be able to tell.

No matter what the issues, I certainly do not wish him harm, and do hope he recovers speedily and without any permanent damage to body, mind or family.

P.S. You "SF/AQL" projection is... unfounded.

[Sonoman]

4. Lemme get this straight. He drew down on them and let them get close?

Dude must've been drinking cough syrup or something.

Sonoman

[HankyDubs]

8. he could easily

have been surprised from behind. We don't really know exactly what happened inside the home.

[rl6214]

18. Yeah, much better that he be unarmed and let the bad

guys do whatever they wanted. After all, the robbers are just trying to do a job and we shouldn't interfere with that job. Let's start a union for them. Set a retirement account and health insurance.

[HankyDubs]

24. or perhaps he could have left the area and called the police

Gone to a neighbor's house, called from a payphone. It's great that this option never ever occurs to you folks.

[PavePusher]

27. In his own home, confronted by three men...

he may not have been able to get to an exit.

P.S. Under what moral or legal principal must I leave my own home in order to preserve the safety of criminals?

[HankyDubs]

28. you may have a point

the incident occurred at or around 3 AM. The article says he confronted the burglars, but hard to know what actually happened here. Unlike the pro-gun crowd I won't speculate about incidents like this based on incomplete information.

P.S. Under what moral or legal principal must I leave my own home in order to preserve the safety of criminals?

The principle of not being shot in the torso with your own gun.

[GreenStormCloud]

32. Where can you find a payphone anymore? That is sooo 1980s.

As a practical matter, escaping from your own home when there are intruders in the home is rarely an easy matter.

[Hoyt]

25. Most of the cowboys here have no idea how they will react if something really happens.

The adrenalin might have screwed him up. Or, maybe he decided when he confronted them that it wasn't worth killing unarmed people over some stuff that can be replaced. He should have stayed wherever he was and used his gun if they came at him.

In any event, hope he pulls through.

[oneshooter]

26. How would you react.?

"Run away, screaming like a little girl, peeing in your pantys"?


Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[HankyDubs]

29. another tough guy cowboy

you're such a badass, what do you even need a gun for?

But thanks for showing some more sexism.

[MineralMan]

10. Hell, I'd have plugged 'em all, one-by-one.

Yessiree, bob. Snicker-snack.

[ileus]

11. Exactly, let the big dog eat...he could knocked at least one out of the fight

[MineralMan]

13. Well, not exactly.

Folks are always discovering just how hard it actually is to shoot someone.

I was being facetious, there. A firearm has no purpose if you can't pull the trigger. Lots of people can't, when you come right down to it.

[YllwFvr]

31. Have to agree with you here

Dont know for sure what happened but it sounds just the way you describe. Dont pull it if you cant use it

[buddysmellgood]

14. It was his home and his choice. He gets to deal with the consequences.

[Philippine expat]

33. As someone

who has been through similar circumstances me thinks he let them get too close.
Should have shot as soon as they moved in his direction.