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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:07 AM Original message |
Walgreens Fires Armed Worker. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. My company does not allow me to be armed at work. If I choose to.... |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I am assuming they do. If not I agree it should be a warning. And then publish it in the employee... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Can you imagine giving that warning though? |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Well, I can understand businesses not wanting employees carrying guns..... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Actually, I dont' think they could be held liable... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I have no problem with a 24/7 pharmacy not allowing employees to carry concealed ... |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. So you think every 24 hour business should have armed security or make employees CCW? n-t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I didn't say "make" employees carry ... |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I think some businesses would have trouble with the cost of 24 hour security. And.... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. I would never require any employee to carry ... |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. I manage restaurants and one I worked at had cops for security |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Except that they're never held liable for those mass shootings. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Walgreens failed to ensure his safety |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. What is Walgreens supposed to do to "ensure his safety"?? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. If they want to stay open 24/7 & have pharmacy open as well |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Exactly. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
68. It does seem stupid |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I don't know. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. I'm hardly an apologist for corporations, lol. But in this case, what IS the solution? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. This guy was trying to round people up into the back room. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. The presence of an armed guard |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Ummm, you don't put them at the front door, except for show. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Walgreens could amend its company policy to allow CCW permit holders to take guns to work |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
113. So you put the guard by the pharmacy |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Since that is exactly what it would take to provide security.... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 04:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. After 9pm, only have access through a drive-in or walk-up window |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. So he should have allowed himself and his co-workers to be murdered? |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
74. I said it was fine but then do not complain about being fired. Pretty simple. n-t |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. F wallgreens, I'll shift my business to CVS. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
52. 'Better check their guns policy first; let us know what you find out! (NT) |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Very likely saving the lives of himself and his co-workers is just a leeeetle bit different.... |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. He did the right thing |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. Well, he's unemployed. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. What's fair about it? nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
11. Better to be unemployed than dead |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Brown's Fried Chicken and Lane Bryant come to mind |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. I once had the opportunity to read the operations manual for a bank. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Of course. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I'm not interested in some |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Of course. Whatever you say. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Interesting that you side with the corporation over the workers' safety. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. It is merely your opinion that I'm "siding with the corporation over the workers' safety". |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. There were no "armed bystanders" on scene... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Ahh: "argumentation by nit-picking" |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. You weren't lying. You were just "choosing your own facts" out of a box you have. n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:28 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. You were telling an untruth to fit your agenda. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:06 AM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Take a look at what you said: |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:14 PM Original message |
And you would be wrong to do so. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. Actually, as you doubtless realize, I could terminate an "at will" employee for any reason... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. A perfect corpotate response. |
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lawodevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
73. You are correct in 10 years gun owners will be a protected class |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. You are glad someone was fired after he likely saved everyone? |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Contrary to opinions stated here, we have *NO IDEA* how this would have turned out... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Ah, so they should have waited until it was too late.... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. But we DO know exactly how it DID turn out! |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Are you willing to bet the lives of the people in that store on... |
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Straw Man (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
79. I say... |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. No, they minimize liability for the corporation |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. They were being herded into a back room |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Better to be murdered... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. You watch too much TV. (NT) |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. You don't read enough newspapers. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. If you do a little reading.... |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Put down "Soldier of Fortune"/Guns and Ammo; it's bad for your mental health. (NT) |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Got stats? n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. People have been herded into a back room and shot ... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Let us not forget the employees of a DC Starbucks: |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. That's just "Soldier of Fortune" and Guns and Ammo propaganda |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. And I'm sure most of the people on flights 11, 175, 77 & 93 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:33 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. No, I've just said my piece. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #82 |
93. wow, just wow. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #82 |
94. The only antecdote that really shows us anything |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
66. I'm sure that this is because somebody somewhere did a study... |
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palmtree guy (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
77. wonder what the sop is |
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sylvi (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
111. "Walgreens was right to fire his ass." |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #111 |
122. I think she actually does. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
112. And such policies make sense, up to a point |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
18. When the bad guy tries to move you, FIGHT. |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
80. re:When the bad guy tries to move you, FIGHT. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
21. night shift pharmacist...he can go find another 156.00/hr job tomorrow. |
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Oneka (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
23. Walgreens has the authority |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
26. I emailed Walgreens corporate headquarters ... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I emailed them too. N/T |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. I look forward to a headline |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
69. Its is at Walgreens discretion to keep this person hired. It was a benighted decision nevertheless |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
75. strange that wallgreens would rather the workers be dead, than a story of SD success. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-19-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You'd think they could turn it into some really positive publicity for themselves... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
78. Here is Walgreens' responce to my email. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 01:44 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Disgusting. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 06:42 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. It's amazing how afraid gun owners are. |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You have quite a bit of faith in the benevolent grace of criminals. N/T |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:01 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. When an armed robber is herding you to a back room, YOUR LIFE IS IN SERIOUS DANGER. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
95. Problem is, you as the victim, can never know until it's too late, if that threat of violence is a b |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #83 |
96. Two armed criminals who could have left instead move you to a back room... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #83 |
98. If all they want is the cash they will take it and go. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. How nice... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #78 |
90. I bought a blood pressure cuff at Walgreens two weeks ago |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. My dad kicked the shit out of a bank robber once. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. I assume your dad was unarmed. Good for him "kicking ass." Preferable to bullets flying. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Hell, you ain't wasting an opportunity to insult someone. nt |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:04 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Actually, I doubt anybody here will say that. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #99 |
104. How's that fantasy land working out for you? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Maybe you could learn something from your dad. Then pass it on to other carriers here. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. For once, I agree with you: Fight back with *any* means at your disposal... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. My dad was laid up, badly injured for two weeks as a result. |
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gravity556 (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
124. Hoyt, I don't think I've ever met a law abiding gun owner who |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #78 |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
89. Freedom of Choice |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Just make sure you check the gun policy/employee response to robbery policy... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Sadly, you are likely correct. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. The sad part, to me, is that the pro-gun organizations will doubtless trumpet this loudly... |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Oh I don't know |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Right out of the NRA talking points |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Even the NRA gets it right every now and then. |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. And Just How Often Do You Disagree With NRA Policy? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. What difference does it make? It's possible to right about one thing and wrong about another. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #118 |
121. Wow, dodge the point (and then make assumptions) much? n/t |
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gejohnston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #115 |
123. your blind claim of everything contrary to your view |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #105 |
119. So................is your father/brother in prison for armed robbery? |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Excellent point. I will. n/t |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
116. Some more info, from the person fired: |
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