GUNS IN THE NEWS - May 29 to June 1, 2004

[CO Liberal]

Please try to adhere to the following voluntary guidelines, in order that we can have an orderly discussion of gun-related news topics:

1 - Feel free to add any CURRENT stories to this thread by replying to this message. In order to be considered current, stories should have been originally posted on the Internet within the previous 24 hours, or provide follow-up to a story that was previously posted on the J/PS board. On Mondays (since many people do not log in to DU over the weekend), stories can be posted from Saturday, Sunday, or Monday.

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3 - Bear in mind that any links to extremely right-wing sites (such as Newsmax, CNS, or the Washington Times) or intentionally pro-gun or pro-control sites (such as the NRA or the Brady Campaign) are not considered reliable sources by many DU-ers. If at all possible, try to find a link for your story from a more mainstream source, such as a general-circulation newspaper or magazine site. If you choose to use a slanted site, be prepared for any negative feedback you may receive.

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[CO Liberal]

1. Girl, 14, critically injured in shooting (PA)

Yep, all them guns are sure keeping people safe in the Keystone State - NOT!!! - Wayne

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Girl, 14, critically injured in shooting

By Michael Hasch and Karen Roebuck
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, June 1, 2004

A 14-year-old Penn Hills girl was shot and critically wounded Monday while she and three companions were riding in the Lincoln-Lemington neighborhood of the city.

It was the second shooting in less than a day involving a young Penn Hills resident.

Ronald Sisco, 15, was shot and killed Sunday afternoon while riding his bicycle in the 7900 block of Orlan Place in Penn Hills.

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http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/pittsburgh/s_196717.html

[CO Liberal]

2. Father Says He Wishes He Could Have Taken Slain Son's Place (FL)

A follow-up to yeaterday's story about the guy getting shot for flirting. Sounds like the shooter had no business having a gun. - Wayne

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Father Says He Wishes He Could Have Taken Slain Son's Place

POSTED: 7:53 am EDT June 1, 2004
UPDATED: 9:39 am EDT June 1, 2004

HALLANDALE BEACH, Fla. -- A Hallandale Beach father is mourning the loss of his son, who was gunned down on a South Florida highway.

Malcolm Marshall Jr., 20, and his friends were headed to South Beach early Sunday morning when police say they exchanged words with a group in another car. As Marshall's car drove away, police say Willie Lumdson fired a single shot, killing Marshall.

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The suspect, Lumsdon, has an extensive criminal record and has spent the past 15 years in and out of prison. He is currently being held without bond.

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http://www.local10.com/news/3366779/detail.html

[CO Liberal]

3. Teen Charged In Watauga Shooting (NC)

Two lives destroyed by one gun. - Wayne

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Teen Charged In Watauga Shooting

POSTED: 8:19 am EDT June 1, 2004
UPDATED: 8:46 am EDT June 1, 2004

WATAUGA COUNTY, N.C. -- A teenage boy from Watauga County faces charges in the shooting death of a 14-year-old girl.

Taby Bumgarner (pictured, right) was shot Sunday at a home near Boone and later died at Watauga Medical Center.

Michael Reploge, 16, is charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter.

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http://www.wsoctv.com/news/3366828/detail.html

[CO Liberal]

4. Shooting kills one, wounds two in Ritchie (WV)

More mayhem spread by a handgun. - Wayne

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Shooting kills one, wounds two in Ritchie

By MICHAEL ERB

PENNSBORO - A Sunday shooting in Ritchie County that left one man dead and two others hospitalized is being described by law enforcement officials as "a domestic situation that came to a bad end."

Few new details, including a specific motive, were available Monday, and the incident is still being investigated, officers said.
Brusie "Don" Lanham, 58, of Pennsboro broke into the residence of Barry "Buck" Moore, 55, on Myles Avenue at around 10:47 p.m. Sunday and opened fire with a .357 Magnum handgun, killing Jon Broadwater, 36, of West Union and wounding Moore, according to a press release from the West Virginia State Police Harrisville detachment.

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http://www.newsandsentinel.com/news/story/061202004_new03_Shooting.asp

[CO Liberal]

5. Man charged with possessing gun, drugs (CA)

A real "poster boy" for the pro-gunners... - Wayne

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Man charged with possessing gun, drugs

Police arrested a 52-year-old man Sunday evening after he reportedly armed himself with a stolen gun because he thought his neighbors were trying to kill him.

Gary Lee Silva believed he heard neighbors plotting to kill him, police said, and so he went in his wheelchair to seek help from other neighbors. A neighbor called police and said Silva had a gun.

When officers arrived they saw the butt of a 9 mm pistol sticking out of a pouch on Silva's wheelchair, police said. Officers discovered that the gun had been reported stolen in Montana. They also found small amounts of alleged cocaine and marijuana in his possession.

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http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/local/8808672.htm

[MattPinNC]

6. Pizza man saved by gun, (IN)

WEAPONS OF CHOICE
Pizza man saved by gun, but fired for packin' heat

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38726

(Fired 15 shots in under 8 seconds, hiting the perp 10 times ...)

A pizza deliveryman won't face charges for fatally shooting a would-be robber several times when he was approached in a high-crime area, but his employer, Pizza Hut, has fired him for violating a company policy against carrying firearms.

Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, says he's been delivering pizzas for 20 years and has always packed heat on the job.


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[CO Liberal]

7. "World Nut Daily" Is Not a Valid Source

See if you can find this on a REAL news source......

[FatSlob]

8. I wouldn't say that.

I would say that it is a slanted or biased source. Anyway, I posted in another thread about this from the Indy Star.

[CO Liberal]

9. It Still Doesn't Change The Fact...

...that World Nut Daily is about as reliable (and honest) as the Washington Times. WHat next? Pro-gun stories from Drudge????

ON EDIT - As stated in the guidelines we post every day at the top of these "GITN" threads:

3 - Bear in mind that any links to extremely right-wing sites (such as Newsmax, CNS, or the Washington Times) or intentionally pro-gun or pro-control sites (such as the NRA or the Brady Campaign) are not considered reliable sources by many DU-ers. If at all possible, try to find a link for your story from a more mainstream source, such as a general-circulation newspaper or magazine site. If you choose to use a slanted site, be prepared for any negative feedback you may receive.

Besides, since the original shooting occurred May 17th, this isn't really current news.

[FatSlob]

10. I agree with you completely

My point, which I didn't make clear, was that a source's bias does not automatically invalidate the source. Obviously, we prefer more mainstream sources, like the Indy Star article I posted.

[CO Liberal]

11. To Many Of Us, The Bias DOES Invalidate The Source

Besides, anyone who constantly goes to places like NewsMax or World Nut Daily for their information doesn't seem to be a progressive Democrat, IMHO.

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[CO Liberal]

13. There's a Difference in Motive There

It's one thing to go to right-wing cesspools to prove your point - it's quite another to go there to show that the opposing point is absurd.

[DonP]

15. OK, but I wouldn't know ...

I don't waste space on my hard drive with a slew of "Duck" Cheney & Co. pictures or an exhaustive listing of every right wing nutcase website on my hard drive. Nor do I cruise all the gun oriented web sites to see who is posting what there, and then be outraged by it all.

So, wallowing in "right wing cesspools" as much as you want and quoting them here is OK, as long as you are making fun of them or using them to criticize other Democrats here that you don't agree with.

OK, just checking.

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