Israel's response to Lebanon will be "Very, Very, Very Painful"

[everythingsxen]

13 July 2006
VERY, VERY, VERY, PAINFUL
WORLD CRISIS 1 Israel goes into Lebanon after kidnap of soldiers
By Jon Clements
ISRAEL stormed into southern Lebanon yesterday after Hezbollah fighters crossed the border and kidnapped two of their soldiers.

Three Israeli soldiers were killed in the raid and four others died when an Israeli tank drove into Lebanon and was blown up a Hezbollah landmine.

Another soldier died as troops tried to recover the tank.


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Militants also fired rockets at targets in northern Israel.


Last night Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert accused Lebanon of an act of war and warned: "Israel's response will be restrained but very, very, very painful."

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[hatrack]

1. To whom?

And yeah, that'll fix all the problems, won't it?

[bemildred]

2. Seems clear everybody wants to fight.

At least the "leaders", so I guess they are going to fight. Should be interesting to see how it comes out, in an ugly sort of way.

[Behind the Aegis]

3. Where the hell is the Lebanese government?

Souldn't they be kicking some Hizb'allah ass?

[bemildred]

4. In Beirut I expect. nt

[Behind the Aegis]

5. sitting on their collective, trembling hands, I imagine. n/t

[bemildred]

6. No doubt. nt

[AndyTiedye]

7. With What?

[Behind the Aegis]

8. Shouldn't they be doing something?

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. Why? Israel are the ones dropping bombs on them, not Hizb'allah

[Behind the Aegis]

11. And why is Israel bombing Lebanon?

OH THAT'S RIGHT...because Hizb'allah ATTACKED Israel on ISRAELI soil! I would think the Lebanese government should at least have a passing interest in the group that started this fight between Israel.

[rooboy]

12. Unless Hizbollah rents out cars at the Beirut airport...

the response by Israel is going to have little effect on Hizbollah, and a negative effect in terms of the middle east.

[Behind the Aegis]

15. prevention of relocating the soldier via air.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. As murderous and terrible as Hizb'allah apparently is, I guess

the Lebanese government must feel more secure & trust them more than Israel. Wonder why that is?

[Behind the Aegis]

14. Somehow I doubt that assertion...more likely they are terrified of them!

[The_Casual_Observer]

16. Show me where Lebanon is being held captive by them.

This stupid pig headed eye-for-eye attack will only lead to more bus bombs in Tel Aviv later on. Always has, always will.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. Lebanon, in violation of UN resolution, refuses to disband them.

They all but control So. Lebanon.

[The_Casual_Observer]

18. So the idea is for Israel to liberate the Lebanese?

Or is a general purpose slaughter in memory of and to avenge the Holocaust? Let's see if it works.

[Behind the Aegis]

19. The idea is to get the soldiers back.

I love Lebanon is given a pass on doing anything, or in this case, nothing! This is comparable to the "border patrol" in the US going into Mexico, kidnapping a soldier, Mexico bombing Texas and the US sitting by, not doing a damn thing.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. Give me one example where one of these groups was persuaded

to do anything by dropping bombs on them? This kind of thing doesn't work anymore, these guys would just as soon blow themselves up just to kill you.

[Behind the Aegis]

21. That isn't what I was suggesting.

The bombing is not the "negotiating tool." The bombing is to paralyze the terrorist group, until the soldiers are found and re-taken.

Doing a swap will only encourage more of this type of action.

[Violet_Crumble]

22. Goddam that biased anti-Israel UN!

n/t

[Violet_Crumble]

23. A question about Hezbollah...

..sort of generally aimed at anyone who knows about this stuff. I've seen Hezbollah referred to as very very nasty horrible terrible terrorists, so my question is were their attacks historically carried out on military or civilian targets?

[pelsar]

25. lets see...

katushyas on israeli cities.....not really a military target....

attacking israeli patrols in israel......sort of like declaring war...

remind me again...why is hizballa attacking israel?....why isnt the lebanese army on their southern border?

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hmm lets see, how can we make this israels fault..... i know, israel has recon flights over lebanon (guess why?)....that must be why hizballa shoots rockets and attacks israeli patrols.....

[Violet_Crumble]

26. I should rephrase that question...

Could someone who isn't a regular on my ignore list answer my question? :)

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[Dover]

9. Israel is every bit the 'outlaw' they accuse Iran of being.

They won't follow the Geneva conventions nor the non-proliferation of nukes.
And yet they insist that Iran not have the same rights. I've never heard or read a statement that explains or adequately justifies their position.
Here is the 4th Geneva Convention: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Human_Rights/geneva1.html

They are basically a law unto themselves...and oddly continue to view themselves as victims.
Where in the Jewish religion does this behavior find justification? The ability to live according to their faith is, afterall, their reason for being in Israel, is it not?

Of course there are no easy answers or justifications for ANY of the 'players' and their/our heinous deeds. The U.S. is equally as quilty of the above. It's every country for itself, apparently, so why should Iran, Syria or N. Korea be any different?

[pelsar]

27. actually your wrong.....

the idea of israel is more of a sanctuary...so that jews can live or not live according to the jewish religion and no one will come after them because they're jewish.....and all they can do is pray they wont get taken.

israels aggresive stance is not based on religion but on history both long and short.

in the long, jews were kicked out of countries, anti semetic laws etc

in the short: the israeli jews had 2 attempts at their extermination via the surrounding states, even today Arab TV/Radio/movies calling jews (not jews not just israelis) less then humans (protocols of zion, zarahs blue eyes).

More so Iran has called for their extermination more than once as has Hamas and Hizballa.....I cant recall israel calling for the extermination of iran (can you?)...or producing a movie/Tv show show how the arabs conspire to take over the world, etc.?

can you?