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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 05:14 PM Original message |
PA names Ramallah street after Hamas terror mastermind |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. One countries terrorist is another countrie's freedom fight... |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That is one of the most intellectually dishonest foolish statements ever written. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Does that apply to the several prime ministers of Israel who had pasts as terrorists? |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. First we have to define terrorism in a reasonable way, |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Your definition would render Palestinian terrorism more or less nonexistant. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. You have got to be kidding |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Read what Aranthus proposed as a definition of terrorism. |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You are assuming that Palestinian attacks are for the sole purpose of ending the Occupation. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I don't think the stated goal was ending Israeli occupation of Palestine |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No it wouldn't. |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Except the King David attack *was* a deliberate attack on non-combatants. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. No, it wasn't |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Please tell me you're joking? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I was parodying your earlier response about Palestinian terrorism being non-existent |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Except I never said that. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. And by virtue of the same definition - the KDH bombing was also not a terrorist attack |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-10-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Had the switchboard operator |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. No, it absolute was not. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Would you consider assassination of UN peace mediators |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You're thinking about Bernadotte? |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. So in other words, if Hamas bombed a United Nations office in Gaza... |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. While it would be mass murder, it wouldn't be terrorism. |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Okay, but that means a lot of people that we considered terrorists... |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. It's an often misused word. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. So you would define the freedom of a people to determine their own path in history... |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. No one is claiming that Israel should have a say in what Palestinians name their streets |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Who said that Israel or anyone should have a say in naming Palestinian streets? |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Yes, dear. Blowing up the King David was terrorism. |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I don't believe that it was. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Nonsense. Why don't you say what you really mean, Aranthus? |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Because I already did. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. And denied citizenship in lands they were born in, like Jordan. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 08:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Occupation is never a Sunday picnic. To say so is intellectually dishonest. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. It matters to YOU. It matters to Israel. |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Of course it matters. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. To them he's a patriot. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The blast was so powerful that parts of bodies "reached the top floors of buildings" |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. INdeed. The "Peace process" has been good for Israel. |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Hamas pretty much slammed the door shut on that process every time things looked promising |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. Israel's pretty peaceful. |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I don't like this statement much. |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:29 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. No, I didn't like that statement much either... |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Agreed. |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:21 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. So if Palestinians have been treated badly by several countries.. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. Uh huh. I didn't need to know. He's not my hero. |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, Oberliner, what do you make of this? |
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oberliner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-07-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It's a shame |
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Shaktimaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
43. I am really curious to get your take on it. np |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. That there isn't really as big a divide |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
44. Related thread: Israel glorifies its own murderers |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
46. Endlessly fascinating that threads that portray Palestinian resistance in this light |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. The Israeli lobby machine is a slick business |
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ProgressiveMuslim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I'm talking about here on the DU. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-08-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. What I have found "facinating" here is once again |
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Eg-ptiangirl (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Fighting occupation |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-11-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Fighting occupation with terror against innocents behind human shields is evil and cowardly |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-12-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Siezing land and maintaining an occupation through mass murder of innocents using captives as human |
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