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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:22 PM Original message |
I don't understand the "non-defensible" aspect of the 1967 lines. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. You can stand on one side of Israel and fire artillery across the country to hit the Israeli navy. |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I understand that. Point well taken. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They were successfully defended by winning the six day war and correcting the problems. |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Other than the Golan Heights |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Israel wasn't exactly standing on the defensive in 1967. (nt) |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It is true that they were able to project force quickly during the war |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Actually, I don't really think it would be in the present |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Lost the war? |
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shaayecanaan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
32. Southern Lebanon is just as close to major Israeli population centres as most of the Golan... |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You can stand on one side of Gaza and fire artillery across the country to hit Palestinians. |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 10:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. "Not defensible" = "Not compatible with dreams of 'Greater Israel'"... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-20-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Right. The biggest problem was the Golan Heights. |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Partly. |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. What about that big wall they've got going up? |
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CJvR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. They were built to... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. It means we would no longer have access to the Jordan River |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. That is simply untrue. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. lol is there not a treaty with Jordan? |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Because treaties are only made of paper. They tear easily. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No I did not admit anything of the sort Israel takes 4/5 of the water from the |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. That's different. That isn't the Jordan River water. |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. the Jordan River is part of that aquafer to claim otherwise is ridiculous |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Further more |
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Dick Dastardly (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. Israel has 3 main water sources. Two of them the Sea of Gallilee and the Coastal aquifer |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
35. learning time again...if you want |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. yawn Israel wanted more than it was getting and found a means by which to take it |
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pelsar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. your just wrong again...thats all... |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. lol see comment 34 n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. They're not defensible. Kassams and rockets from those heights would shut Israel down for good.... |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I don't think that argument will sway the worlds stance |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The Gaza pullout shows what happens when Israel stops the occupation/settlements |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. N. Korea has engaged in hostilties many times over the year |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-24-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
50. Israel has primitive weapons? They're the most advanced military in the region and get the |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. Actually, Israel did not "defend" the 1967 lines, because they couldn't. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. +1 |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Thanks |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. To any reasonable person, you made an intelligent, reasoned argument... |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Those are good points. Thank you for furthering my understanding |
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aranthus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Your welcome. n/t |
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Harmony Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 09:18 AM Response to Reply #17 |
39. I respectfully disagree, and most the world does as well so here is why that is the case |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. The settlements along the '67 line are on hills overlooking Jerusalem... |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. Imagine the lobbing of rockets from the Gaza strip times a thousand. |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-21-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The antizionist internet jihadis think that's worth the risk... |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 04:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. I shall never forget that Golda Meier came to speak |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
43. Video about Israel's indefensible 1967 lines |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It seems you support Netantahu's position? n/t |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Nutty's position vs. Obama? Nope. That the original '67 borders are indefensible? Yep. n/t |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. well of course a liberal such as yr self would never oppose Obama |
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shira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-22-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The '67 lines are indefensible but Obama isn't calling for a return to that. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-23-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
49. Please don't forget that the President recommended a contiguous |
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