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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:47 AM Original message |
Arab liberals - endangered species |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Jpost should sometimes look itself |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. bluesoul... |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Too generalizing |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 06:58 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. uhhhh...... |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-18-03 07:07 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Duh |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 02:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
64. The writer |
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Blitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-03 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. Very interesting article ... |
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Cry Freedom (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-03 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. 2 interesting sentences from the article: |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-25-03 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. Drop the word Arab from the title |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. or .... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. One problem Arab liberals have |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 11:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Some have no problem in supporting |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Actually, I believe Mr. Galos has a good point here |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. What is then Zionism? |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Zionism is very different than Islamism |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Zionism |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'd agree |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 12:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. There will be no peace |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. So you advocate war as opposed to UN Security Council Resolution 242 |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. What's sad is you insisting on Israel |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Care to say why? |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. So you're telling me that Gaza, West Bank and the rest of the OT |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. No |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 03:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. I am very suprised too |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-03 03:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. Perhaps you could read post #39 |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
103. ok I read it, read the thread again |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 01:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. btw: here's a map of the British Mandate of Palestine |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. The British Mandate is of little relevance today |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. It hardly shows how Jordan isn't Palestine |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 05:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Interesting |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 05:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Let's look at that claim |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 05:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Deleted message |
bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 05:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Israelis already have their country |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 06:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Where do you keep dreaming up this WW2 thing? |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 06:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Whatever |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 06:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Here's an analogy to make it simple for you |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 02:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. An updated analogy |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 06:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. The British plan for Mandated Palestine was not implemented |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
68. Let's say that it was plan #1 |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 09:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. Here's an article on Resolution 242 for you to read, Mike... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 09:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. No thanks - I take my history raw not rewritten |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 09:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. How about reading it before commenting on it? |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 09:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Gee, it was long, it was PDF, it was silly. What did I miss? |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. What you missed... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I gave it what it was worth |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. How would you know as you didn't read it? |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:19 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I've read it now and my comments stand |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Okay, so you've read it now... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I didn't say it lied |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Yes, you did... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Deleted message |
Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yr the one who claimed there were lies in the article... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 11:26 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Sorry, bad wording |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-03 12:01 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Mike, you keep on claiming this article cites weak essays... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. On further reading |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. The documents cited DON'T agree with things you've said... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Nonsense |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 10:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Mike... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 11:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I've already posted that |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-03 12:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Sorry, but you haven't... |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 01:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. Thank you for posting, Violet |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Here, I'll make it simple for you |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 03:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. No, it isn't |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 06:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. So we agree |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 06:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Okay, I'll go with that |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 07:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. In what possible way |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 07:59 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. It Is An Occupation, Mr. Galos |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 08:11 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Ah Magistrate |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 08:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Well, My Friend |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
104. As usual, well thought out |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. My Closing Sentence, My Friend |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:21 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Two points |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-03 05:57 AM Response to Reply #73 |
118. Happy to share, Jack... |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 07:50 AM Response to Reply #11 |
65. Thanks |
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bluesoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 07:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. And state |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 08:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. If you mean |
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ClaraLemlich (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:27 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. It really doesn't matter |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:34 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Not entirely true |
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ClaraLemlich (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Link |
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Gimel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 11:55 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Not in the bios |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. You're welcome |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-27-03 07:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
62. Funny how quickly |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-29-03 06:11 AM Response to Reply #62 |
119. What about it would you like to discuss? |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. This is much more common than people want to admit |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 03:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. so, you know whats going on in my local mosque... |
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_Jumper_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 03:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Do you attend a black mosque? |
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number6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-26-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. so only black mosques are ok then ... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
82. Deleted message |
The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 08:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. This Is Romantic Nonsense, Sir |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Deleted message |
The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. It Is Most Fun When They Wriggle, Dear |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:19 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Deleted message |
Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Having read your posts |
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Saudade (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Rabbit |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:31 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. I can't say those words |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:36 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. They Do Not Often Manage To Make Me Laugh Out Loud, Sir |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. Bravo |
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Saudade (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Doubtful |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:39 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Jack ??? An apologist for colonialism?? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:39 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. Never Travel Without A Tour Guide, Dear |
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Saudade (373 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:50 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Patronizing |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:56 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. A question for you, Saudade... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. You Need To Be Able To Suss Things Out Quickly And Reliably, Dear |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:02 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Why do you keep calling him 'dear'? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. The Fellow Earned It Fair And Square, Violet |
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Violet_Crumble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:12 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. I didn't ask if they earnt it... |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:01 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. So I quess... |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Me? An apologist for colonialism? |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. jack.... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Hey Jack |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Gee, thanks |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:12 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Yeah... |
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MikeGalos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Hey |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:19 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I KNEW IT !! |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. I am not a colonialist |
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Lithos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:44 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Hmmm |
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Darranar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 09:43 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. I suggest... |
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drdon326 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-28-03 10:29 PM Response to Reply #91 |
115. Saudade....you still there?? n/t |
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