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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 06:10 PM
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No More Tears: Benny Morris and the Road Back from Liberal Zionism
No More Tears: Benny Morris and the Road Back from Liberal Zionism

By Joel Beinin

Lengthy but well worth the read.

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Morris now provides a moral justification for ethnic cleansing that he did not offer before the second intifada, arguing that “ven the great American democracy could not have been created without the annihilation of the Indians.” Native Americans and those with a sounder knowledge of North American history may demur. But in Israel, appeal to the authority of the US is the ultimate clincher in any argument. Yearning for the success of the American example, Morris now criticizes Israel’s first prime minister and defense minister, David Ben-Gurion, for failing to do “a complete job” because “this place would be quieter and know less suffering if the matter had been resolved once and for all. If Ben-Gurion had carried out a large expulsion and cleansed the whole country…. It may yet turn out that this was his fatal mistake.” Palestine-Israel might also be quieter today if Hitler had completed his planned genocide of world Jewry. It does not occur to Morris that there might be a parallel between these two historical counterfactuals. The first is in the realm of acceptable speculation; the second is too obviously outrageous to consider.

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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:24 PM
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1. Sickening.
Why such people as Morris have to discredit the Israeli cause is beyond me.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:26 PM
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2. Just what is the "Israeli cause" in your view?
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Offshore Bush Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:43 PM
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5. It was originally to secure a homeland for the Jews.
Too bad it's been perverted by imperialist greed and bigotry.
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 02:02 AM
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10. Indeed...
n/t
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:35 PM
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3. It is sickening.
That he said that David Ben-Gurion should have completed the task!

Truly sickening, on that we agree.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:39 PM
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4. I am
growing more and more embarrassed to have his book (Righteous Victims) occupying space on my bookshelf. It is informative, but his recent bullshit has got to go.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 07:45 PM
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6. his recent bullshit is most appreciated
honesty in such matters, however repulsive, should never be shunned..
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:08 PM
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8. An unusually clear example of the lack of moral
cojones in someone who clearly has a good mind.
Good historical work degenerates into the usual
"the end justifies the means" drivel.

An interesting read, too, but not much that was
new. You are correct that honesty, however framed,
from "unimpeachable" sources is to be appreciated.
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Resistance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:11 PM
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9. point well taken
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BowlingForPalestine Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:06 PM
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7. I like his honesty.
You can deal with a man who's honest much easier than one that deceives.
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