Anti-Semitic Teachers

[drdon326]

The strangest thing about the concerted anti-Israeli terror assault that began in fall 2000 is that rather than leading Europeans to rethink their assumptions about Israel and the Palestinians, it touched off a bizarre orgy of Blaming the Victim that must be unique in history. The sight of babies being blown up in their strollers, teenagers being blown up while waiting in line at a disco, off-duty soldiers having their eyes gouged out and being dragged burning through a street by a mob, a pregnant mother and her four children being machine-gunned to death in a car—and so on and so on—none of this led the citizens of this enlightened continent to ponder whether their sympathy for the Palestinians had perhaps been exaggerated, their condemnation of Israel perhaps too automatic. Instead it somehow became the excuse and reopened the floodgates for a roiling, long-suppressed Jew-hatred.

Friday’s vote by Britain’s Association of University Teachers (AUT) to boycott two Israeli universities is the latest installment. Once again the new anti-Semitism cloaked itself in high dudgeon and moral concern, with Birmingham University lecturers Sue Blackwell and Shereen Benjamin voicing their indignation at Israel as a “colonial apartheid state, more insidious than South Africa,” its universities as “repressing” academic freedom.

By now, though, the veneer of high-minded righteousness is starting to crack, the real face of the anti-Israeli campaign beginning to leer through. Just three years having passed since the Passover suicide bombing at the Park Hotel in Netanya that killed thirty, the 40,000-member AUT chose similar timing to convey its message. Its conference on Friday, held on the eve of Passover, rushed through the two motions for boycotts of Haifa University and Bar-Ilan University in a lightning “procedure” aimed at excluding Jewish members from participating.

And when its executive president Angela Roger cut short the session and denied opponents the right to reply, the AUT revealed as well the ugly totalitarian mindset that is never far behind when anti-Semitism starts to smirk.

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Indeed, Blackwell, one of the main initiators of the boycott, was not shy about her true sympathies—never impaired by any deed of Palestinian savagery no matter how horrific—when before the session she stood outside the conference building in Eastbourne draped in a Palestine flag. “She was joined,” the Jerusalem Post reports,

“by keffiyeh-clad activists from the Palestine Solidarity Campaign, who handed out leaflets branding Zionism as a ‘racist ideology’ and accusing Israel of ‘ethnic cleansing’”—and whose organization calls for a boycott of Israeli goods, the freeing of convicted mass murderer Marwan Barghouti, and the realization of the Israel-dissolving “right of return.”

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17848

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EXCELLENT ARTICLE

Coming soon to a theater near you...."JEW BOOK BURNING"

[Darranar]

1. So the Palestinians aren't victims?

Or do they have some strange sort of characteristic that makes blaming THEM better than blaming Israelis?

[HawkerHurricane]

2. Remember:

1 Palastinian with explosives strapped on him kills 2 and himself = Terrorism.

1 Isreali with F-16 dropping explosives killing 2 = not Terrorism.

[ProgressiveConn]

5. Aye.

Bin Laden kills 3k and he is a terrorist. Bush kills 100k and is a liberator.

[drdon326]

3. The author nails it.....JEW HATRED.

Welcome to the not-so-new anti-semitism.

[Coastie for Truth]

6. It's as old as the hills

Like Pope Pius IX and little Edgardo Motrara, and a second source about Little Edgardo.

[ProgressiveConn]

4. Sorry being anti occupation is NOT anti Semitic.

Hell IMO Israel should instantly have all its aid removed and be completely embargoed until the occupation is ended; the wall is taken down; the west bank and Gaza are completely free of settlers and the Israeli military and intelligence agencies are completely removed.

Being against the occupation and the horrible foreign policy of the Israeli-American alliance is not the same as being anti-Semitic. Those who claim it to be are no different than republicans who claim it is anti-American to oppose the war.

Horrible article.

[Coastie for Truth]

7. Tell you what

rip the friggin Israeli designed chips off of your friggin PC, erase the friggin Israeli code off of your hard drive, and don't take any therapy developed in Israel (like stem developed therapies from "aborted cells"). I could care less.

[drdon326]

8. And dont forget.. if you have a SUSPECTED SMALL BOWEL CANCER....

DO NOT SWALLOW THE PILL THAT CONTAINS A CAMERA (aka Capsule Endoscopy)

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[drdon326]

20. Lovely

Fucking Democratic party is full of Israeli Nationalists who claim that any comment contrary to Israeli foreign policy makes someone anti Semitic.

I will let that stand on its own.

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[Colorado Blue]

22. Wait a second. The territories were occupied due to war,

and were to have been returned in exchange for peace agreements. The peace agreements haven't been forthcoming. Even so, the Israelis are beginning plans to withdraw.

Without the fence, they will be defenseless against the incursions of terrorists.

What you are suggesting puts this nation completely at risk. There have been five wars since 1948 and countless acts of terror. Do you really want a second Holocaust? That is what would happen if you had your way.

The occupation wasn't done for fun. It was an act of self-defense, which you can read about in the encyclopedia. If you want links please let me know. The settlers are a separate issue, they will almost certainly lose their homes. But even they have a point of view, which is defensible if you are willing to take the time to hear their side of the story. I personally disagree with them, as do most I think; but the areas near Tel Aviv and Jerusalem are so narrow that those settlements, the close-in areas, which serve as buffers and defense zones, make absolute sense.

I have lots of links to speeches, sermons and even details about what is being taught in Middle Eastern schools, in case you are interested. You can find some linked to the thread called "the new antisemitism" and some in the "boycott" thread and some in the "Juan Cole" thread. Also I suggest a quick perusal of the Wikipedia articles on the several wars in Israel. That should give you a more balanced impression of the situation and its history.

The agenda for many, including the Iranian mullahs and Hizzbolah, which they support, is NOT to make peace with Israel but to destroy it.

Even though Abu Mazzen is trying to get the P.A. strong enough to control the terrorists in the occupied territories, they are continuing to arm themselves. The P.A. has interdicted many would-be attackers, headed for Israel. If Israel withdraws before the P.A. can control the terrorists, or before they have agreed to a permanent truce and not a "hudna", which is a rest between battles, they're in big trouble.

Maybe YOU have some ideas as to how to fight terrorists, without hurting innocent people? We'd sure like to hear them. The fact is, they don't wear big signs saying, Yo, I Am A Terrorist. Moreover, little children are taught to be suicide bombers, and the worst forms of antisemitism are taught in schools and even broadcast on TV.

These attacks have been going on for DECADES. Attacks against Jewish people have been going on for ages, all over the Middle East, since the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

Since the rise of Islam, Jews, Christians and other minorities were officially second-class citizens or worse. Sometimes life was OK, sometimes it wasn't - but always - there was a definite form of apartheid.

The violence against Christians and other minorities has been intense since the early 20th century, with hundreds of thousands of Assyrian Christians, Maronite Christians, Copts, Zorastrians, and over one million Armenians killed. The ENTIRE Jewish community in the Middle East, some 900,000 people, was expelled after 1948. Only handfuls, oppressed, remain, where they had lived for 2,000 years or more.

Please, try to see the big picture here.

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[not systems]

9. Why isn't frontpagemagazine.com considered a hate site?

Consider this article:

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17823

Meet the Real Marla Ruzicka

By Debbie Schlussel
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 25, 2005

When The New York Times, “Nightline,” and CNN nominate a young blonde for sainthood ahead of the Pope, it’s time for a reality check.

Especially when that blonde, Marla Ruzicka’s sole purpose is to legitimize our enemies, cause problems for U.S. troops already in harm's way, and morally equate dead terrorists with victims of 9/11.

...

But many of those dead included assorted terrorists, jihadists, and other collaborators and uprisers against Americans. Ruzicka had the gall to insist that these Afghani and Iraqi dead, terrorists or not, get recognition and sympathy equal to victims of the 9/11 attacks.

...

While it’s a sad day when any American gets killed by Islamic terrorists, it’s measurably less sad when that American aided and abetted them—and belittled our troops.

For Marla Ruzicka, some might call it, poetic justice.



Disgusting.

In my opinion front page magazine is not a source to take
as anything but a hate filled propaganda sheet.

[drdon326]

10. ***YAWN*****

Try commenting on the article.....rather than shooting the messenger.

[not systems]

11. Why not find sites that aren't extremely right-wing to make your case?

I believe Front Page is a right-wing hate site, you can do better.

[drdon326]

13. So what did you think of the article ?

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[not systems]

17. Not much...

it made the typical shrill arguments that are used to attack
people taking actions to end the occupation of Palestine.

I wouldn't really expect different from Front Page.

I do think divestment did work to pressure the changes in
South Africa so it is natural that people would try to
adapt it to pressure changes in Israel's policies.

[Darranar]

12. So if somebody posted from, say, Rense, you wouldn't have a problem? n/t

[drdon326]

14. Spare me the faux umbrage....

i've seen articles here from....

wash. times
stop the wall
z-mag
arab news
pal.news org
common dreams
and a host of other offensive sites

and funny, you didnt comment on those.

[Darranar]

16. None of those are offensive. n/t

[drdon326]

19. I'm sure you DON'T find those offensive.

.

[Darranar]

21. And what do YOU think of Front Page Magazine?

A decent, legitimate source full of enlightening articles?

A right-wing piece of trash with an occasional article worth reading?

Something else?

[not systems]

18. Front Page makes the Washington Times seem fair and balanced. n/t

[Colorado Blue]

24. Nevertheless - the lack of historical knowledge on the part

of Americans is appalling.

I have run into people on this site, who really do not know ANYTHING about the Middle East, ancient, medieval or modern, or the history of modern Israel, or the many wars, or the connections between WWII and Eretz Israel, or the Soviets and their monkey-business in the region, or the oil industry, or the BRITS - yet, they feel competent to criticize the Israelis.

Now that is wrong and it is scary. It is not as though the information isn't THERE. And people can READ, they are not illiterate PEASANTS.

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it, indeed!

And while we're on the subject of sources: I was chewed out for posting the text of a speech by Joseph Massad, in which he really went OTT, because the speech was quoted in a source which wasn't DU approved. NOBODY has been able to refute the quotes and I have indeed verified them separately.

So we should be able to use our noodles, I think.

As far as the M.E. is concerned, there is so much revisionist history out there it is nauseating. The prime target is the Holocaust, but also any mention whatsoever that Jewish people were in any way discriminated against before 1947. This means, any attack on Jews can be excused as an attack on "zionists".

Which is ridiculous, dhimmi laws have been documented for centuries, of course there has been discrimination against MANY minorities and there were some TERRIBLE pogroms in the M.E. before the establishment of Eretz Israel; yet I think people actually believe this stuff.

Go figure.

[not systems]

27. I agree...

any attack on Jews can be excused as an attack on "zionists".

Also any criticism of Israel or "zionists" can be dismissed as
an attack on Jews.

I guess that is the effect of creating a state that is religious, explicitly.

I does seem rather clear cut that some boundaries exist that are
Israel's legal borders.

Also some territories exist that are occupied by war.

Building in these areas and using them for water resources or
garbage dumps is a rather clear case of colonialism and is illegal
based on the now ignored laws of war and occupation.

Don't you think that if Israel stopped being an colonial occupier
it would be in a better position morally?

Israel certainly isn't under military threat so why keep occupying
the West Bank?

I understand that there is a complex history and that their are
no saints in the region, I also agree that Israel has managed against
steep odds to create a very progressive democracy for it's citizens
including non-Jews.

So why keep occupying the West Bank?

Why can't people take action to presure Israel to end occupation?

[bemildred]

28. Well said, but it's not actually doing that great:

Toward a true turnaround

Perhaps a little more modesty would have been in order before the finance minister convened a press conference to inform the nation of our expected entry into the club of the 10 leading countries within the next 10 years. This same person gave a nearly identical address in his first year as prime minister in 1996. Average living standards in the G7 countries that year were 38 percent higher than in Israel. Since then, their standards of living rose by 17 percent while ours rose by just 3 percent (in fact, our living standards would have fallen by 2 percent had it not been for the gains in 2000). Thus, the finance minister should understand if we wish to be spared a repeat screening of the horror movie that he and his party imposed on us over the past eight years.

Living standards in Israel have been falling steadily farther behind the leading Western countries for the past 30 years. Poverty and income inequality have been steadily rising throughout this period, reaching Western peaks in recent years. Can such a country actually change direction? In the Wild East in which we live, the existential question is not whether such a change is possible - it is - but what needs to be done to ensure a successful turnaround.

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Job placement a la the Wisconsin Plan is not a substitute for upgrading education among working-age products of Israel's abysmal educational system, nor for providing skills compatible with a modern economy - and the intent is not more failing vocational training programs of the kind currently available.

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The recommendation for significant improvement in the educational system does not correspond with the deafening silence of the education and finance ministers when their government signed a recent coalition agreement completely releasing ultra-Orthodox schools from implementing any reforms.

Haaretz

[Colorado Blue]

29. The question of military threat isn't settled at all. So that is

part of it. There are no treaties, and no guarantees, and Abbas doesn't even have the terrorists in the West Bank under control.

Beyond that, I think most people in Israel would like to get rid of the territories. And of course the misdeeds should be corrected. There is no excuse for the kind of destruction you describe. But these are problems that can be handled rationally. The threat of war, however, is constant. Iran and other very wealthy states, and now Russia, are providing arms to militias and also to Syria.

One would think, with all the satellites up in the air, attacking Israel would be difficult to get away with and therefore she should feel safe. But, there are missiles, supersonic planes, and also it is so small that there is NO room for error. Also, what if the Palestinians declare a state, and democratically decide to arm and attack Israel?

So, there is real fear.

Working with the neighboring Arab states to get peace agreements on the table would be more productive in solving this problem than boycotting Israeli academics. Coming up with concrete plans to help relocate the people in Lebanese refugee camps, after all these decades, would be productive - and also merciful.

The fact is, they have been there because the plan all along has been to destroy Israel, then they could return. So they too have been victimized, and not just by the Nakba. Reparations have been offered and refused. Statehood has been offered to the Palestinians, and refused. So you can understand the frustration.

Destroying Israel is by no means an unpopular idea, I really had no idea myself how widespread it still is until I started reading and realizing that even professors in America, like Massad at Columbia, espouse this view.

So, I think there are three reasons why Israel is hanging on to the West Bank:

1. No peace agreements; they feel vulnerable.
2. Abbas isn't really in control yet, and without all the checkpoints, and until the fence is built, there isn't sufficient control of the terrorists.
3. There is great reluctance by a percentage of the Israeli population to abandon the West Bank completely - not in the military sense, but in the sense of leaving it Judenrein - free of Jews - which it hasn't been since Biblical times. Some believe in the original agreement, dating back to the 20's, which gave the entire region west of the Jordan, to the Jews. So there is political and historical and religious sentiment here that is going to be difficult to deal with.

Ideally, and if there was a real peace, Jewish people could live in Palestine as Arabs live in Israel. But I don't think that's what the Palestinians want.

But, if numbers 1 and 2 are satisfied, it would be hard to justify maintaining a presence on the West Bank, except as the Palestinians agree. I think, if there are peace agreements and Abbas - or somebody - is peacefully in control, the withdrawal would be A LOT easier to accomplish. In the end, it WILL happen.

But first Gaza.

[Coastie for Truth]

32. Perhaps the best pressure

would be for self described progressives and liberals and "persons of good will" to stop the boycotts of universities - and to stop the Arab League Boycott Office boycotts of non-Israeli Diaspora Jews. NOW

To all of the DU "self described progressives and liberals and "persons of good will" - look into your own hearts, too.

Eating a bagel isn't enough.

[Coastie for Truth]

30. I don't think "electronic intifada" is a proper site either

[Englander]

33. Why?

Do you want to give a reason why ei is not
"a proper site"?

Or,why you feel it's worth mentioning,in response
to the utterly correct claim,that FrontPageMag is
a hate-filled propaganda sheet?

ei=biased,yes.Propaganda,no.

Here,for example is what the Ryerson Review of Journalism says about ei;

"4. Electronic Intifada

Functionality: 4/5 Electronic Intifada (EI) began in 2001, a year after Palestine's Second Intifada. This site is packed with information that is organized, accessible, and thorough. It offers visitors historical, legal, cultural, and political information about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. The four cofounders, who make their homes in Minneapolis (Minnesota), Chicago (Illinois), Holland (Europe), and Vancouver, update the site regularly.

Freshness: 4/5 Dr. Laurie King-Irani, one of the site's cofounders, says EI's most popular aspect is its diaries -- live reports from people on the ground in occupied Palestine. The site also offers breaking news reports, media trends (for example, how Palestinian voter turnout was "grossly exaggerated"), reports from advocacy groups like Reporters Without Borders about journalists in danger in the Middle East, techniques activists can use to communicate effectively with the media, and more.

Quality: 3/5 The site began when the founders noticed reports by the mainstream media were completely at odds with reports they received from the ground. "In the beginning, the site was very much activist-oriented," says King-Irani. "We wanted to give activists the tools to critique media portrayals in a responsible, mature, intelligent way." The site maintains a Palestinian slant, but cofounder Arjan El Fassed suggests this perspective is missing from mainstream news. "Too often, we aren't getting the whole story. What we do at EI is deliver the missing part," he says. "We call it supplementary news, rather than alternative news."

Making Do: 3/5 In 2002, the EI team decided that instead of critiquing the media, they would become the ideal. But, despite getting between 300,000 and 1 million visitors every month, money has been tight. In 2004, EI's expenditure came to about $60,000 and the site survived only because volunteers do most of the work. "EI will not reach its potential without more investment," says El Fassed. "We need more people on the ground and bigger budgets for editing and translation."

[Coastie for Truth]

34. Your comments are noted.

I most politely and humbly beg to disagree with you. Biased.

[newyorican]

26. This article is poorly written crap...

fetid red meat for the drooling knee-jerk idiot crowd.

Classic bait-n-switch BS, which is apparently the latest flavor of kool-aid.

Pretty much what is expected from...er, ardent readers of Frontpage Magazine.

Keep in mind that I am not in agreement with boycotts that target Universities, even if they are justified. It's just the wrong target IMO.

However, the argument is lost (through outright silly hyperbole) the instant one conflates 2 Universities with all Jews. Thats just plain stupid and quite intentionally missing the point...and extremely obvious in doing so.

[Coastie for Truth]

31. Boycotts of universities

Just feed on the worst fears of Likudniks, Haredies - and paranoids who perceive themselves to have been victims of racial, religious, national origin, gender, or gender identification based discrimination or boycotts.

They go right to the credibility and good faith and good will and paper trail of the boycott proponents, and completely destroy any patina of "good will" or "good faith."