Transfer is not a dirty word

[DuctapeFatwa]

..If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It's an ugly solution, but it is the only solution. And it is far less ugly than the prospect of bloody conflict ad infinitum. When two populations are constantly enmeshed in conflict, it is insane to suggest that somehow deep-seated ideological change will miraculously occur, allowing the two sides to live together. ..

That is the secret weapon of the Arabs. Any time the Jews get wise and threaten mass expulsion of Arabs, the Arabs pull out their big stick, equating Nazism with Zionism. Their cartoons merge swastikas with stars of David. Their newspapers call Ariel Sharon another Adolf Hitler. Their spokespeople cry "Genocide!" And the Jews cower in fear that they could be equated with their parents' murderers.

The Jews don't realize that expelling a hostile population is a commonly used and generally effective way of preventing violent entanglements. There are no gas chambers here. It's not genocide; it's transfer. It's not Hitler; it's Churchill...

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/bs20030827.shtml

[King Bush II]

1. i think that

its much more complex than that. do you really assume that those palestinians will willingly just up and leave? they feel that they are just as entitled to the land as the jews are.

and by the way, the israeli's mistreatment of the palestinians can be equated to the nazis. israel is one of the top war crime commiting nations, not that the palestinians aren't guilty of inhuman actions as well.

[DuctapeFatwa]

4. Please note that I did not write the article

When you click the link, you will see it was written by a person named Ben Shapiro.

I am not, nor have I ever been Ben Shapiro, nor have I ever played him on TV.

[King Bush II]

6. i know

ya i didn't mean it to you... im sorry, its just that ben shapiro doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed

[Darranar]

8. That's right...

He's advocating ethnic cleansing for no real purpose.

[Darranar]

5. DupctapeFatwa...

does not agree with the article, King George II. He posted it to show the stupidity of some pro-Israelis (am I wrong, DuctapeFatwa? if so, please correct me.)

And, of course, welcome to DU! Let's oust King Bush II from power! :toast:

[DuctapeFatwa]

9. LOL I admit disagreeing with Mr Shapiro rather strongly

I read and post all kinds of things.

:D

[Darranar]

2. Trash...

What junk. Churchill was wrong, people. Remember the little quote about chemical warfare?

[bahrbearian]

3. so a palestinian is suppose to move for a Jew from NYC

or Moscow? What crap is this??

[library_max]

7. Really? Commonly used?

Could you give us a couple of historical examples in which "expelling a hostile population" was used for some benign purpose? Because I can't think of any that didn't amount to genocide. Remember, the Palestinians were there first, and expelling them would include taking away their homes.

[tinnypriv]

10. The cowardly silence that the publishing of this article will be met with

Is absolutely disgusting.

A thought experiment:

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If you believe that the Palestinian state has a right to exist, then you must allow the PA to transfer all the Jews to New York. There are plenty of them there already. It's an ugly solution, but it is the only solution. And it is far less ugly than the prospect of bloody conflict ad infinitum. When two populations are constantly enmeshed in conflict, it is insane to suggest that somehow deep-seated ideological change will miraculously occur, allowing the two sides to live together. ..

That is the secret weapon of the Jews. Any time the Arabs get wise and threaten mass expulsion of Jews, the Jews pull out their big stick, equating Muslims with 9/11 and saying they're going to get another "holocaust". Their cartoons merge men with beards with the swastika. Their newspapers call Yassir Arafat "their Bin Laden". Their spokespeople cry "Anti-semitism!" And the Arabs cower in fear that they could be equated with the perpertrators of 9/11.

The Arabs should realize that expelling a hostile population is a commonly used and generally effective way of preventing violent entanglements. There are no gas chambers here. It's not genocide; it's transfer. It's not Hitler; it's Churchill...

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Imagine the reaction.

Check the reaction in this case, and draw the appropriate conclusions.

[Jim Sagle]

11. Your thought experiment ain't nuthin' but shit...like this thread.

[tinnypriv]

12. See I assumed the worst reaction would be silence, not praise

You are beneath contempt.

And yes, I expect this post to be deleted.

But hopefully you'll get to see it, and think long and hard about the lives of the people you want to have destroyed. Men, women and children you WANT BUTCHERED simply because they have the temerity to live somewhere your Holy State wants for itself.

Think you could shoot those children in the head yourself, you f***** coward?

[Poll_Blind]

16. When a web forum is known for regulars like Jim Sagle...

...it says volumes about the the moderators.

PB

[Forkboy]

14. As much as I like that line Jim

whats "shit"...the premise behind the original post or the replies it's gotten. Do you agree with Mr Shapiro or do you think that what he says is "nuthin but shit"?

[Alex88]

13. Winston Churchill

In a recent Booknotes interview on C-SPAN that I saw, this author at one point said that it's not something people like to talk about, but Winston Churchill was a racist. I haven't had time to google this. What do you know?

August 10, 2003
Forty Ways to Look at Winston Churchill: A Brief Account of a Long Life
by Gretchen Rubin

http://www.booknotes.org/Program/?ProgramID=1740

[The Magistrate]

17. It Is Worth Noting, Mr. Priv

"Town Hall", from which the article was taken by Mr. Fatwa, is an extreme rightist site, affiliated with the Heritage Foundation, Eagle Forum, and a variety of other septic tanks. What is said on it is hardly a reflection of the views of progressives and leftists who support Israel, such as those of us who do so in this forum.

To my view, your "thought experiment" neatly disposes of the poison swill the "Town Hall" denizen has excreted, but his position is not one anyone here shares, in any case.

[newyorican]

18. You are much surer than I...

that no one here shares this position. I would hope that no one share it.

Borrowing a term from another thread, this is an international version of "Punked". So will Israel, do what needs to be done according to Benny, or will they "punk out"?

[userdave2061]

19. "transfer all the Jews to New York"

Man, that is so obscene I can't even reply with equality. Seek help or check your roadmap back to reality.

[newyorican]

20. Do you...

intentionally misinterpret things for a living?

If the experiment derived from the article is obscene, what is the article? Is it a sentiment you agree with or not?

[bemildred]

15. What a really cute picture of him.

"The Jews don't realize that expelling a hostile population is a
commonly used and generally effective way of preventing violent
entanglements."

Silly Jews, someone needs to educate them. It worked so well in
the former Yugoslavia. I don't suppose one even need bring up
India and Pakistan.

:puke:

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[Lithos]

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