'Jerusalem raped by foreigners'

[newyorican]

(VIDEO) British Parliament Member George Galloway calls for action against Israel while praising jihad attacks on coalition forces in Iraq; says United States and Britain are 'terrorists'

Call to violence? - (Video) British Member of Parliament George Galloway has described Jerusalem as being "raped" by foreigners, in a series of speeches delivered on Arab television.

Galloway is leader of the Respect Party, an anti-Iraq war political party based on an alliance between Britain's Socialist Workers Party and the British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The broadcasts, which were translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute, will likely present a challenge to British prime minister Tony Blair, who has vowed to crack down on overt incitement to terrorism in Britain and abroad. Galloway said that Jerusalem and Baghdad were "crying out for help," before praising Iraqi jihad fighters, saying they were "defending the whole Arab world."

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From the Respect Party Website:
Respect – The Unity Coalition was born in January 2004. It emerged out of the massive anti war movement. Thousands of people across the country have said they can no longer vote for New Labour. Tony Blair and New Labour have turned their backs on the very people who voted them in.

source

No mention of "Muslim Brotherhood" on the Respect Website. Disinfo?

[Jim Sagle]

1. God damn Galloway to hell a trillion times over!

:grr:

[Monkie]

12. if hell is where the Galloway's go i will gladly burn with him eternally

Its easy to kick at a-rabs but it takes balls of cosmic proportions to consistently take on the real evils in this world.
Galloway is a hero in my eyes.
He fearlessly exposes the lies and the liars.
He speaks for those whos voices go unheard,and his words are powerful and poetic.

"He described British prime minister Tony Blair and American president George Bush as "terrorists," saying, "It's not the Muslims who are the terrorists. The biggest terrorists are Bush, and Blair, and Berlusconi, and Aznar, but it is definitely not a clash of civilizations. George Bush doesn't have any civilization, he doesn't represent any civilization."

"We believe in the Prophets, peace be upon them. He believes in the profits, and how to get a piece of them. That's his god. That's his god. George Bush worships money. That's his god - Mammon."

The establishment in the UK and abroad has done everything in their power to destroy and silence Galloway but all this has done is increased his stature with those he speaks for.

You dont have to agree with every word of Galloway to see this?
That he says what many want to say but cannot out of fear or because of the colour of their skin?
So if i have to make the choice of where i stand between the mass murdering war criminals Bush and Blair and the rest of the sycophants, or George Galloway and the downtrodden of this world,its a really really easy choice to make.

So may i rot in hell for all eternity if that is what it takes..

[Coastie for Truth]

17. I would say the real problems were caused by

Sir Mark Sykes, OBE (Sykes-Picot Agreement) and Sir John Browne, OBE(CEO of BP) - everything else is a bubbly head on the Guniness Stout. (See, I like Guiness and Mini-Coopers and MG-TC's).

[Englander]

18. ~psst~

Guinness is brewed in Dublin.

That's Dublin,Eire.

If you're after stout brewed in Britain,one of the
best is Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout,from Yorkshire.

Slainte!!

http://www.merchantduvin.com/pages/5_breweries/samsmith_oatmeal_stout.html


Edited for spelling error.

[Colorado Blue]

21. Enjoy! All demogogues and those who espouse their

inflammatory and bigoted rhetoric, should have their very own debating society in the Great Beyond if that is what it takes for people in THIS world to see the virtue of moderation.

[Darranar]

32. What "inflammatory and bigoted" rhetoric? n/t

[geek tragedy]

26. Do you idolize all terrorist loving pols, or just those who side with

people trying to kill Brits, Jews, and Americans?

Galloway referred to Rantissi and Yassin as "martyrs."

He refers to Iraqi Trade Unionists as "quislings" and "collaborators" because they organize politically instead of killing Americans and other Iraqis.

He doesn't think Tariq Aziz should even stand trial--despite the fact that Aziz was a high-ranking member of the Baathist dictatorship for two decades.

He attributed Al Gore's stance on Iraq to Jewish campaign contributions.

His party is an alliance between Trotskyists and the Muslim Brotherhood.


Not all leftists are progrssives. Galloway and his supporters are proof of that.

[Behind the Aegis]

2. .

Galloway is leader of the Respect Party, an anti-Iraq war political party based on an alliance between Britain's Socialist Workers Party and the British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Respect Party has strong ties with The Muslim Association of Britain, which has been said to be "the British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood."

"Al-Ikhwan (the Muslim Brotherhood) has branches in over 70 countries all over the world. The movement is flexible enough to allow working under the "Ikhwan" name, under other names, or working according to every country's circumstances."

The 'about' page for The Muslim Association of Britain and the 'about' page for the Muslim Brotherhood. There are some striking similarities. Perhaps, it is nothing more than coincidence.

[Englander]

3. Who has said that?

Who has said that the MAB is the "British branch of the Brotherhood?"
Was a name given,or a source? Anonymous,uncredited sources have little credibility,& personally,I'd be sceptical about the claims.

Ynet have got it wrong here.

MAB are part of the Stop the War coalition,together with CND,& Respect.

Their spokespeople are quoted on the BBC,& a link to the MAB website is provided in the same article.*

MAB spokesmen write comment pieces for the Guardian**.

If MAB *were* the "British branch of the Brotherhood",I'd be concerned,which is just as well that they're not.

Although,someone,somewhere,has described the Muslim Brotherhood as a "peaceful welfare organization".;-)

________________________

*
Last Updated: Tuesday, 1 March, 2005, 09:59 GMT
Muslims discuss election concerns

Issues that Muslims should be considering before voting in the next general election are to be debated by UK community representatives.

The event is being held by the Muslim Association of Britain (MAB), which believes Muslim voters could influence the result in up to 50 constituencies.

More at;
BBC News

______________________________________

**

Comment
Back to you, Mr Blair

It is wrong to put the onus on British Muslims to defeat terror

Osama Saeed
Saturday July 23, 2005
The Guardian

Faced with the events of the past two weeks, it would be the easiest thing in the world for me to say the Muslim community must do more to combat terrorism. Many community figures have done just that.

Shahid Malik MP told the Commons: "The challenge is straightforward - that those voices that we have tolerated will no longer be tolerated." This raises the question: did we really hear people planning violence in this country but do nothing about it?

· Osama Saeed is a spokesman for the Muslim Association of Britain

More at;
Guardian Unlimited

[Behind the Aegis]

4. Google "British branch of the Muslim Brotherhood"

You will find a number of sites and cites. Rightly or wrongly, some do make this claim.

[Englander]

5. That's it?

No. You provide the evidence,you've made the claim,the onus is on yerself to prove it. I'm not going to do yer work for you,I've just provided two credible sources that make absolutely no mention of any link between MAB & any other organisation.

Prove it.

If you have any evidence,post it,if you have any links,post them,& everybody can see how credible they are.

[Behind the Aegis]

6. No.

You do it. By doing it yourself, you can decide, for yourself, which sites and cites are credible and which ones are not. The time it took for you to post your response, you could have done your own search and elimated sites you found questionable.

I never said the claim was legitimate or not, but only that the claims had been made.

On edit: "I've just provided two credible sources that make absolutely no mention of any link between MAB & any other organisation." Do you think that every time MAB is mentioned that links to the Muslim Brotherhood will be mentioned? Even if true, some how I doubt it. So your "proof" actually proves nothing other than those TWO articles don't show a link.

[Englander]

7. This is a public forum.

It is not a forum exclusively for myself,or yourself.
Any claims made are seen by anyone who so chooses to
look at this website.

Anyone who so chooses to look at this site can see that
unsubstantiated claims,when queried,are not backed up,
& when evidence is asked for,to provide proof for those claims,
no evidence is provided.

The onus of providing proof is on yourself; you have made
the claim that there "are some striking similarities" between
the MAB website & the ikhwan website,& thereby inferring that
there are some similarities between MAB & ikhwan.

Why should I provide any evidence to proof a claim,that you
claim,you never claimed? I've asked you to provide any evidence
or any sources or any names that corroborate your statement.
You suggested/infered/insinuated/hinted {delete as applicable}
that MAB is the "British branch of the Brotherhood"?

I'm asking you to provide some evidence for that "claim".

[Behind the Aegis]

8. Public forum

"It is not a forum exclusively for myself,or yourself. Any claims made are seen by anyone who so chooses to look at this website." I have no dispute with this analysis.

"Anyone who so chooses to look at this site can see that unsubstantiated claims,when queried,are not backed up, & when evidence is asked for,to provide proof for those claims, no evidence is provided." Again, no issue with this assertion. As this is not a 'news site,' opinions and speculation abound and are not 'out-of-bounds.'

"The onus of providing proof is on yourself; you have made the claim that there "are some striking similarities" between the MAB website & the ikhwan website,& thereby inferring that there are some similarities between MAB & ikhwan." No onus is on me. I am not required to prove anything. The only claim that I made was that others made the claim that MAB was associated with the MB. I implied (you "inferred") that there were similar ties between the two groups, which in of itself, could be seen as "proof." Although, I was not intending it to be 'proof,' only as an article of interest.

"Why should I provide any evidence to proof (sic) a claim,that you claim,you never claimed? I've asked you to provide any evidence or any sources or any names that corroborate your statement. You suggested/infered (sic)/insinuated/hinted {delete as applicable} that MAB is the "British branch of the Brotherhood"?" I never asked you to provide anything; you asked it of me. I suggested you do your own research and discard sites/cites you found objectionable and draw your own conclusions. I provided you with information to find sources; again, which you could decide for yourself if they were accurate or not. I wrote "...which has been said to be..." and this implies it was information I saw/read/understood, not that I agreed, as I said; "Rightly or wrongly, some do make this claim."

"I'm asking you to provide some evidence for that "claim"." I am aware of your requests and, for the second time, I will reply, "no." You do the search, as suggested, and decide if the articles/persons that make the claim are merited.

[Englander]

9. ~Who's on first?~

I'm not psychic;I don't know which sites or persons
you're referring to when you say "Rightly or wrongly,
some do make this claim."

That Google search produced 68,400 hits -I'm not going
on a wild-google-chase to find these sites,& I'm not going
to try & guess which sites yer writing about.

If you were to post these sites,I (& others)would be
able to have a stab at commenting on the validity,or
coherence or credibility of these articles/persons.

--"I am aware of your requests and, for the second time, I will reply, "no." You do the search, as suggested, and decide if the articles/persons that make the claim are merited."

We are now entering the realms of the absurd; I already
know the claim is unmerited,& as I did not make it in the
first place.

The only conclusion I can draw,is that in fact there is no
link between MAB & ikhwan,& any suggestion that there is
a link is merely "disinfo" & designed to smear MAB.

[Violet_Crumble]

10. Why aren't the striking similarities staring you in the face??

Sorry Englander, but bta is 110% correctomundo when he says there are striking similarities in the 'About Us' pages. Thanks to the awesome power of my browser and my awesome skills acquired while publishing a zillion different 'About Us' pages on a government website, I will now produce a long and exhaustive list of *chilling* Striking Similarities between both 'About Us' pages...

• Both are 'About Us' pages!
  
• Both pages contain the word Muslim in their titles!!
  
• They both contain that squiggly writing that isn't English!!!
  
• Each page contain information about each group!!!!
  
• There appears to have been some inter-group collaboration on the similarities in the colour chosen for each pages background!!!!
  
• Each 'About us' page tries to hide its collusion with the other by using different titles to describe the same thing - one uses 'Main objectives' and the other uses 'vision'!!!
  

That's enough for me! I know I'm convinced!! ;)

[Englander]

11. I see it!! The Truth has been revealed!!

How could have I missed the utterly convincing &
overwhelming amount of similarities between the
two 'About Us' pages!!

From now on,I shall use this formula to determine the
beliefs & outlook of any organisation - compare the
'About Us' page with another 'About Us' page!!

When discussing any two groups use The Formula!!
It's the only way!!

;) ;)

[geek tragedy]

25. This blog post does a lot of the work in establishing who the MAB really

are:

http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/08/04/more_airbrushing.php

(Don't bitch at me about the blog itself, check out the links-they speak for themselves)

[Name removed]

30. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[geek tragedy]

27. Here is a partial look at the Muslim Brotherhood's attempts to

camoflouge itself:

http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/08/04/more_airbrushing.php

Though, I don't know why people would act surprised that a supporter of the Baathist party and Hamas would align himself with the Brotherhood.

[bemildred]

13. Hmmm. So Galloway gave a speech in Arabic and MEMRI "translated" it?

Or what? The Respect Party, BTW, IIRC, was based on Galloway being booted out of Labor for talking disrespectfully about the Iraq business.

[eyl]

14. Galloway made the speech in English

Syrian TV dubbed it, and MEMRITV translated back into English (or just transcribed it - you can hear the English if you listen to the video carefully).

I was particularly fascinated at his fulsome lionization of the Iraqi fighters - who are, when you get right down to it, killing considerably more innocent Iraqis than they are Americans (et al).

As for the SWP & the Muslim Brotherhood:

http://www.google.com/search?q=respect+swp+%22muslim+brotherhood%22&hl=en&lr=

pick your source

[bemildred]

15. I'm not getting any sound.

I'll try it in Windoze later.

[eyl]

19. The audio

is set on mute by default. Try clicking on the mute button (to the right of the volume adjustment bar)

[bemildred]

29. I'm not on WIndoze.

But having run into a BBC version, I am no longer in any doubt as to Mr. Galloway's words.

[bemildred]

16. BBC has it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4744685.stm

And in LBN.

[Caleb]

20. What a horrible man

This Galloway is. He sounds like an al-Qaeda spokesman.

[Colorado Blue]

22. Amen to that. If you really listen to the text you are reminded

of certain other horrible "leaders" of the not so distant European past.

We should be extremely wary of such speechifying and what it implies.

[Name removed]

23. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Colorado Blue]

28. LOL!

You really gotta wonder sometimes:)

[Darranar]

31. What?

As far as I can tell he spoke the truth, pure and simple.

He did not advocate terrorism against innocent people, which separates him from al-Qaeda.

[geek tragedy]

24. Well, the Muslim Brotherhood in the UK, the MAB, doesn't even like

to call itself the Muslim Brotherhood.

But, yes, the Muslim Brotherhood is part of Galloway's RESPECT alliance.

[Darranar]

33. Muslim Association of Britain - Wikipedia

The Muslim Association of Britain (MAB) is an Islamist group in the United Kingdom established in 1997.

MAB states its aim as to "promote and propagate the principles of positive Muslim interaction with all elements of society to reflect, project and convey the message of Islam in its pure and unblemished form".

It has been claimed "The Muslim Association of Britain itself is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood"<1>. MAB admit that they have links with the Muslim Brotherhood but claim that they are an independent and an open organisation with membership who have diverse "...origins, cultures, traditions schools of thought" <3> .

Along with Stop the War Coalition (StWC) and Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, it has co-sponsored various demonstrations against the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq. MAB first started working with the StWC in 2002 when they agreed to join togeather a demonstaration they had planned to mark the anniverersary of the Second Palestinian Intifada with a demonstaration StWC had planned against the lomming Iraq war at the opening of the Labour party. The march took place under the dual slogans 'Don't attack Iraq' and 'Freedom for Palestine'.<3>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Association_of_Britain

[Igel]

34. "foreigners"?

Doesn't this rather imply the correctness of the assertion that Jews are Europeans and Khazars (for example), and not from the area originally?

In other words, isn't Galloway buying into a certain type of Palestinian/Arab rhetoric concerning the origin of the Jews and the claim that Arabs are autochthonous to Jerusalem?

Or did I miss an invasion by the San and Burushashi?

[Caleb]

35. Sounds like it

Neo-Nazis also use the Khazar/Ashkenazi rhetoric to say Jews don't belong in Israel or Jerusalem.

Whatever. This Galloway guy is a fool. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Always has been. Always will be.