It this stuff legit? If it is, it's amazing.

[ladybugg33]

http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

"The Bush Junta Unmasked

"This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton

Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit

Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'

AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with us."

[GainesT1958]

1. Personally, I think he'd make a lot more headway...

Suing Dub & Co. for gross negligence!:mad:

Let Jim Baker defend Dub against THAT charge!:grr:

B-)

[DenverDem]

2. All this will come out during the Kerry administration.

People around here will dismiss it because they don't like Rense, but this is how it all happened and it will be revealed when Johnny K starts prosecuting these treasonous bastards.

This is why busholini inc is fighting so viciously to steal this election and why there will be a lot more shit go down between now and 11/2.

[tom_paine]

6. God! I certainly hope Kerry has the balls to prosecute!

I will :puke: if they start talking about 'healing the country' (code for "we're (w)ussying out") as an excuse to NOT prosecute.

You don't heal, with Nazis, Commies or Busheviks. For the same reason because they all belong to the same family of thought (authoritarian).

If Free America does not do something more forceful to supress Bushevik Imperial Unchecked Power while there is still a shred of the Constitution left, then the NEXT time they come back, by legitimate or illegitimate means, will be the End of Free America, the utter and final end.

If we squirm out of their Totalitarian Clutches NOW it will be a small miracle.

They aren't going anywhere. Ann Coulter isn't going to turn into Florence Nightengale, she will remain Ilsa the She-Wolf of the SS.

And Goebbels v2.0 isn't going anywhere. It is designed to GROW, to enslave the mind and ensure the subject is innoculated against any Non-Party Approved Facts. All Non-Party Approved facts will be ignored by an Enslaved Bushevik Mind.

Which means as few will shake their programming as Rev. Moon's (who undoubtedly shared his VAST knowledge on the topic in exchange for stopping all ivestigations into his crimes) followers do.

No matter WHO wins in Nov., there will still be a massive amount of trouble onthe horizon.

We see it in operation now. They saw the same thing in 1930s Germany and Russia.

[Beam Me Up]

22. I totally agree with what you're saying tom_paine

The problem is getting people to SEE what is happening right under their noses -- and where it is headed. When people hear other American citizens referred to as "fascists" -- unless the reference is to a Nazi skinhead with flaming mohawk and high boots -- they assume YOU are exagerating. But today's fascists don't LOOK like that: They wear business suits, ties and American flag lapel pins. They have wives and families and go to church on Sunday. They greet you with a smile, a hand shake and a slap on the back. They tell you everything you want to hear -- and even if you suspect some portion of it may be lies, you still want to hear it.

I've witnessed a few people in my circle -- educated white middle working class -- begin to go through the "paranoid shift." A lot of it has had to do with ME being fairly relentless, bringing things to their attention over and over and over again -- things they aren't hearing in the mainstream media -- things many of them would just as soon NOT look at or think about. Some of them have even voiced concern for MY sanity!

Slowly (from my point of view) a few of them have begun to ask questions on their own. Now some of them even email ME stories they find. They many not have gone as far through the looking glass as I have, but they have begun to entertain ideas that had never occurred to them before.

One thing I've found of value is pointing out (I got this through Ruppert and people he sights) is the more than "close relationship" between Wall Street and the CIA. There is just SO many things people do not know. But once they get pointed out to them they begin to think, "WHY DIDN'T I KNOW THAT?"

Yeah, well. Attention is the key. Your life is determined by what you pay attention to. It is a big question: What is guiding my interest? Where IS my attention? Being aware of this is just the BEGINNING of freedom.

[tom_paine]

7. God! I certainly hope Kerry has the balls to prosecute!

God! I certainly hope Kerry has the balls to prosecute!

I will :puke: if they start talking about 'healing the country' (code for "we're (w)ussying out") as an excuse to NOT prosecute.

You don't heal, with Nazis, Commies or Busheviks. For the same reason because they all belong to the same family of thought (authoritarian).

If Free America does not do something more forceful to supress Bushevik Imperial Unchecked Power while there is still a shred of the Constitution left, then the NEXT time they come back, by legitimate or illegitimate means, will be the End of Free America, the utter and final end.

If we squirm out of their Totalitarian Clutches NOW it will be a small miracle.

They aren't going anywhere. Ann Coulter isn't going to turn into Florence Nightengale, she will remain Ilsa the She-Wolf of the SS.

And Goebbels v2.0 isn't going anywhere. It is designed to GROW, to enslave the mind and ensure the subject is innoculated against any Non-Party Approved Facts. All Non-Party Approved facts will be ignored by an Enslaved Bushevik Mind.

Which means as few will shake their programming as Rev. Moon's (who undoubtedly shared his VAST knowledge on the topic in exchange for stopping all ivestigations into his crimes) followers do.

No matter WHO wins in Nov., there will still be a massive amount of trouble onthe horizon.

We see it in operation now. They saw the same thing in 1930s Germany and Russia.

[Andy_Stephenson]

8. "Johnny K starts prosecuting these treasonous bastards."

Don't count on it. Cause itis NOT going to happen.

[librechik]

17. If there's a President Kerry in the year 2054! n/t

[DenverDem]

21. John Kerry will prove you nay sayers wrong.

He's a hero and he will demonstrate it once again.

[knowbody0]

3. cannot wrap mind around it

have checked it out, have indeed freaked out. the alarmists are always interesting, but this stuff expands into a horrific abyss with thoughts too big and bad for my pea brain

[troubleinwinter]

4. We MIGHT KNOW

if they'd release the NEW 9-11 report that NAMES NAMES!!!!! (rather than withholding it til after the election)

:grr:

[FizzFuzz]

5. love your sig pics.

non-sequiteur posts like this actually bug me, but I had to remark on those pics.

If I had anything to add to the topic I would, but all I can say is, "holy crap" :shrug:

[ladybugg33]

9. This is tooo much. I have to start dong some research. See ya!

:hi:

[gulfcoastliberal]

10. This quote makes me nervous:

My guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush reelected.

:scared:

[proReality]

15. OR...

What I'm worried about is if Kerry wins, they might do something to prove how right they were in saying we were safer with them.

[TexasChick]

11. Stanley Hilton's case is for real....he has some hard core evidence that

the Bush administration was behind the 9/11 attacks. Hilton's office has been burglarized several times. The courts just won't accept his case. He is a lawyer for over 400 "tax payers" and 9/11 victims/families. Maybe when we finally take back the Senate, our courts will accept the case.

Check for the Karl Schwarz original thread, I asked him a question about Stanley's case and how it was progressing...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2504341&mesg_id=2504341


Ellen Mariani, another 9/11 widow is suing Bush and his cabal with evidence of their involvement in the attacks and did nothing to stop it. She's suing Bush under the RICO Act - Racketeering. Her website (which has been down lately) is 911forthetruth.com. Google: +Ellen+Mariani and you will get alot of articles on the case. But the best place to go guys is: Prison Planet to find out about her case. This link has some serious stuff in it as well as an interview with Ellen and Phillip Berg, her attorney, very informative! Will scare the h*ll out of you, especially if these imperialists get another four years!!!

We are in for the fight of our lives, guys!!!


Jennifer

[NoPasaran]

12. Alex Jones is a loudmouthed crackpot

A perennial adolescent who never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like.
:tinfoilhat:

[ladybugg33]

14. Just because he is a loudmout crackpot doesn't mean he's wrong.

Doesn't mean he's right either. I have some research results that I am putting together and will present soon.

[NoPasaran]

16. Yeah, even a stopped clock is right twice a day

But as a timepiece it's useless.
:tinfoilhat:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

20. How clever! But do you have anything to refute this story?

[WoodrowFan]

24. research

you might do better reading the 9-11 report than to pay attention to nuts like Rense. Btw the "Dole Staffer" Hilton worked for Dole briefly like 20 years ago, he's hardly an insider with "special knowledge."

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. And you are.....?

[NoPasaran]

23. A rather soft-spoken crackpot

Who knows it's fruitless to play "My :tinfoilhat: is thicker than yours" with conspiracy mavens in full reality-denial mode.

[Clintmax]

13. Yikes!

OK...this is a scary thought. If true, Bush better resign the Presidency at once! I can't even imagine the reaction of the American people if they found out this is true.

Sends a shiver up my spine!

:scared:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

18. He's describing the modern-day version of Operation Northwoods...

Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962
<http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/>

Excerpt:

In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”

[Tesibria]

25. Operation Northwoods is overrated in this situation

... (ducking ... but I have to say it) ...

People keep referring to Operation Northwoods as evidence that the US Govt is actually evil enough to kill 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

The released papers on Operation Northwoods so most definitely that the US Govt will engage in massive misinformation campaigns -- but what too many people don't acknowledge is that if you actually READ the papers (rather than what people say about them) -- the plan was ALL re: MIS-information. They were NOT going to actually kill innocent civilians -- they were going to blow up an empty plane and SAY that the Cubans had killed a bunch of people.

In each proposed "propoganda" idea that I found in the papers, it was clear that it was -- YES - a HORRIBLE SHAM -- but did NOT involve killing innocent American civilians.

Now -- unless someone is going to assert that all the grieving 9/11 families are actually CIA operatives -- (which would, imho, be an incredibly outrageous claim) -- they need to get OFF these papers.

The papers show that the Gov't lies to us. We KNOW that. They do NOT show that the Gov't will inflict a 9/11 incident on us.

(ducking back down now)

[LARED]

26. For anyone that is interested

I did a Lexus Nexus Legal search and ths suit is not listed. There are something like 226 suits against Bush, but this is not one of them. So far.

[MercutioATC]

27. A bit of advice..if it begins with "The Bush Junta", take it with a grain

of salt...

The Bush "JUNTA"?

...please...