Weather Modification? Is it Weather Warfare???

[Rainscents]

Please tell me what the hell is going on? It looks like, someone is playing games with weather!

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/marti/2006_ONE/webManager/basicGifDisplay.html

[Richard D]

1. Guess so . . .

. . . link doesn't seem to work.

[Rainscents]

2. Try it now, it work.

[AndyA]

3. Can you explain what it is that I'm seeing at this link?

I see the red band, is that supposed to indicate manipulation? Could you please explain, I'm not sure I understand what this represents. Thanks.

[Rainscents]

6. Yes. This is being discuse in other weather treads.

[halobeam]

8. Care to share a link?

[slackmaster]

7. Nibble your way back up the URL

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/marti/

Disclaimer

The individual images that are used as input into this product sometimes contain bad data in the form of missing scanlines or anamalously high or low values that often stretch in an arc across the image. When these areas are incorporated into the MIMIC product they form artifacts that fade in and out, and appear to move with the storm center. However, they have no physical meaning and hopefully they will not obstruct your interpretation of the imagery.

[halobeam]

4. not a clue what I'm supposed to be seeing here. sorry

[Rainscents]

10. Look at the storm being develop off the FL and you notice,

red line start from FL goes to center of the trpical storm and the other red line, comes in from TX and meet at the storm. You can clearly see, something is happening to storm before the red line gets released.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. That's one big chemtrail.

Damn canadians.

[Quakerfriend]

12. I don't know about that image. But, seriously, they are doing

something very fishy with chem trails. We're covered with them almost daily outside of Philly.

Just the other night my 9 yr old said, "Mom, did you notice the heavy duty chem trails yesterday?"

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. Oh, definitely.

Ever since I stopped taking my medication the chemtrails have been giving me blackouts and I keep waking up in strange places wearing other people's clothing.

Lousy belgians.

[Codeine]

44. Chemtrails ate my baby.

Lousy dingos.

[benburch]

9. That line iis the suture between two datasets.

Take off the tinfoil hat now.

[Rainscents]

11. Thanks Ben!

I was going to put on my tin foil hat on. LOL

[benburch]

30. I forgot to say "You're Welcome!"

But you are!

[shance]

13. Are you the tinfoil patrol? Why do you criticize and act as if

you are an expert on all the issues here at DU?

You've seem to have all the answers pegged on 9-11 and everyone else who dares to question the official story is wrong by your standards. Now you are a meteorologist and know everything on weather matters including a line across the screen that meteorologists can't even explain.

How is it you an expert on everything Ben?

[Igel]

17. He's a polymath. n/t

[benburch]

25. While I thank you for saying so...

...I fall well short of that goal.

[Igel]

42. Well, I would say I left out the

:sarcasm: emoticon, but that wouldn't leave a correct impression.

You cover a range of territory, and while we've had a few disagreements, you're concerned about seeking to establish facts before forming an opinion, and keeping opinion separate from fact. And you do that reasonably well.

That makes you rational, and intelligent, and both deserve respect. OK, polymath is hyperbole; but given Google, adequate critical thinking skills, and some intelligence, polymathy isn't nearly what it used to be.

Of course, I think you get some facts wrong, although I've learned a few things trying to debunk what you've posted. Then again, I've gotten facts wrong, too. :hi:

[CabalPowered]

19. I'm not a meterologist but I did take a year of upper level climatology

and there's no doubt that Ben is correct..

This is from the frontpage of that particular server..

"The individual images that are used as input into this product sometimes contain bad data in the form of missing scanlines or anamalously high or low values that often stretch in an arc across the image. When these areas are incorporated into the MIMIC product they form artifacts that fade in and out, and appear to move with the storm center. However, they have no physical meaning and hopefully they will not obstruct your interpretation of the imagery."

[benburch]

20. I'm not an expert on everthing.

But I'd wager I know more stuff about more things than 99% of all DUers. I never stop reading.

And in this case I am 100% certain of my analysis.

Care to wager $1000 on it?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

22. Reading the prose of other human minds can have a debilitating

effect on seeing things as they truly are.

[benburch]

23. I've not found that to be true.

UNCRITICAL reading can do that, though.

But my time at the University of Chicago taught me good critical reading skills.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

26. Fair enough.... yes, critical reading should be one of my more

pressing goals... since I seem to (want) to believe in the ideologies at WhatTheBleep, and other sites that are attractive to the average mind that is dissatisfied with things such as they are.

[benburch]

27. I suggest a daily visit to...

http://www.eurekalert.org/

and

http://www.sciencedaily.com/

And bear in mind that much of this is press releases so you need to hone your critical reading skills a bit before digesting them...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

21. It's really pretty obvious.

Those long narrow gaps are quite common artifacts in any given scientific map of data. That they are just sections of missing or unrecorded data should be obvious to anybody semi-scientifically literate.

[Beelzebud]

29. It's called critical thinking. America would be better of with more of it

[soulcore]

33. how about this one

another "suture"?

<img src="">

[benburch]

36. That is a suture too.

The web site itself explains this effect.

[zbdent]

14. Maybe the idiot in LTTE # 5 is right after all

instead of being an ass for the Repukes . . .

See the one titled "Heck of a job"

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/2006/06/11/news/editorial/letters/14787415.htm

[Dogmudgeon]

16. Looks like a data processing artifact

Of course, I could be wrong about that.

Most of these anomalies are "artifacts" of processing or optical phenomena. On the other hand, I wouldn't put it past the Powers That Be if they were trying to mess around with nature in any way.

There's only one way to deal with such things: Observe. Keep notes. Improve one's education. Test all theories, hypotheses, and wild-assed guesses with your best skills. We many not be privy to the truth, but there is no law against observation or thinking.

Ignore ridicule. Ignore your fears, too. Trust your observations.

--p!

[Redstone]

18. I see a weather map at your link. The fuck does that have to do with

"controlling" the weather?

Redstone

[Rainscents]

24. I am only questioning since, I don't know.

I hear people talk about weather controlling all the time and I thought this was the way it's done. Jeez, sorry, I posted this tread.

[benburch]

28. Never apologize for asking questions!

That is all you did here, and it was a reasonable question to ask!!!

[arikara]

40. Don't feel bad for having questions...

and for doubting the official version. There are very smart people who do believe that there is monkey business happening with the weather.

Check out Professor McCanney's pages. Very hard to navigate through, but then he's a scientist, not a webmaster. He also has a weekly radio show with all the archives around the bottom of the main page. Very interesting.

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/Sun-Earth-Connection.HTM

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/

[undergroundpanther]

31. You bet it IS

An Article I wrote about this..
http://www.unknownnews.org/050909a-up.html

Check THIS out
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.517.IS:

[Rainscents]

34. Wow, that is very interesting!

[undergroundpanther]

32. Explain THIS???

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=4715&z=3&p=

A interesting take..fancy that..a plan..
ttp://csat.au.af.mil/2025/index.htm
http://www.au.af.mil/au/2025/volume3/chap15/v3c15-1.htm

[benburch]

35. Ummm....

I explain that just like I explain the Mickey Mouse I saw in the clouds this weekend...

Nature sometimes imitates our symbols for totally natural reasons that have nothing whatsoever to do with our use of that symbol...

And the brain is a pattern-finding machine. This also neatly explains so-called "Electronic Voice Phenomena".

[undergroundpanther]

37. Think what you wanna

But if you were a sociopath rich boy,who had no conscience, and wanted full spectrum domination of the world,(rememberPNAC?),why would controlling weather be off the table as a tool of domination? What makes you think weather control would not even be attempted? THe White house NSA etc condoned torture,what's fucking with weather to them?
Controlling weather can in be in a wcontrol freaks mind a very , possible be a way to give the controller godlike power. It can be used to make droughts,floods, hurricanes,bad storms to frighten,destroy livelihoods,and subjugate others and other nations.. I think any full spectrum domination sociopath would get a boner thinking about it.
And they have been thinking about it.Enough to introduce bills and pass them.

ttp://csat.au.af.mil/2025/index.htm
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.517.IS:

Fancy that!
Pattern recognition.Yeaaah..Riiight...move along nothing to see here...

[AZCat]

38. Nonlinearity.

Highly nonlinear systems (like the weather) aren't by nature very easy to control, although it's been a couple of years since I took a controls class so I don't think I could put together a very good explanation of why. Perhaps someone else here might have the requisite knowledge?

[benburch]

39. Correct you are.

Weather is a fractal chaotic nonlinear system involving energies on scales that even nuclear weapons do not approach.

Of course the goons in the GOP Crime Syndicate would use weather control if they could. But they can't.

[sabbat hunter]

41. jeez

that first one has been debunked long ago. will find the link later. but it is on snopes.

[benburch]

43. The debunking is really simple...

human symbols sometimes appear at random in nature. People see shapes in the clouds all the time; Animals, Numbers, Letters, Plants. This time the shape was captured on radar.

When people are suspicious enough, though, such things seem sinister.