White House releases statement about the bump on the back

[AnIndependentTexan]

http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=90865&hl=

October 9, 2004
The Mystery of the Bulge in the Jacket
By ELISABETH BUMILLER

WASHINGTON, Oct. 8 - What was that bulge in the back of President Bush's suit jacket at the presidential debate in Miami last week?


First they said that pictures showing the bulge might have been doctored. But then, when the bulge turned out to be clearly visible in the television footage of the evening, they offered a different explanation.

"There was nothing under his suit jacket," said Nicolle Devenish, a campaign spokeswoman.

"It was most likely a rumpling of that portion of his suit jacket, or a wrinkle in the fabric."

Ms. Devenish could not say why the "rumpling" was rectangular.

Nor was the bulge from a bulletproof vest, according to campaign and White House officials; they said Mr. Bush was not wearing one.



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[ogradda]

1. so the statement says it's not there?

lolol

[Octafish]

2. Let me finish!

What was that again, Turd Blossom?

[papau]

41. Bump showed up in second debate - why?

[Octafish]

57. My best guess: Transceiver

Everything about the little turd from Crawford spells psychopathic moron -- from never reading a book in his life to being drunk and coked-up past 40. To think this guy was selected for prez-nit makes me conclude the worst: That hump is an alien critter, like in Heinlein's "The Puppet Masters."

[shanti]

60. isn't that special?

so we're supposed to not believe our eyes either....good grief.

[neomonkey]

3. A friggin' RUMPLE???

OK, I wasn't really all over this. I thought it wasn't worth much of my time, but that lame, BS spin does nothing but tell me they are hiding something.

[unfrigginreal]

7. Same here

I believed it was probably a flak jacket or something, but the statements out of the White House make me believe that they're hiding something.

[neomonkey]

16. I firmly believe a poorly concocted lie

is as incriminating as a full confession.

[Sparkly]

11. Right, I think the statement makes it more suspicious

People here speculated it was a microphone for the broadcast, or a bulletproof vest, or something else easily explained away.

This statement really blows that away. Is there a direct link to the NY Times? I want to make sure it's real!!

[PurityOfEssence]

20. Rumplestilskin: the guy's got a bad case of the trolls

Great jumpin' jehosephats!

[ms.smiler]

4. Sure, my clothes wrinkle and rumple in rectangles. n/t

[whistle]

5. A picture is worth 1,000 words, do you have a video link....

...so we can view what everyone is talking about?

[Fridays Child]

22. A DUer posted this, yesterday...

It's enhanced to get the sharpest resolution. Whoever did this, please step up and take credit because I didn't make a note or bookmark the thread.

[getoffmytrain]

25. he's clearly...

wearing body armor. You can see where the vest goes over his shoulder and there is a velco (or some other material) seam in the back. However, many BA vests fasten on the sides or in the front.

[Sparkly]

27. Then why didn't the spokesperson just say so?

Why are they pretending there was nothing there at all?

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. Because if the situation was deemed to be so dangerous

that Bush needed to wear a vest, they should have made sure Kerry had one too.

Major, major mistake if Bush showed up wearing protection and they let Kerry's ass hang out there to dry. Especially, since there was a report before the debate that there might be a terrorist attack.

I need to go google for that one.

[Sparkly]

37. Now that's a new wrinkle in the story

so to speak.

Let us know what you find!

[DoYouEverWonder]

49. Yep, there was a terror alert about al Qaeda attacking Miami

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/breaking_news/story/236962p-203453c.html


Al Qaeda planning Miami attack for Bush-Kerry debate?

BLOOMBERG NEWS
two days before the debate.


BLOOMBERG NEWS

September 29, 2004


U.S. law enforcement agencies warned authorities in Miami that the al Qaeda terrorist organization might try to attack during the first presidential debate tomorrow, a government spokeswoman said.

The advisory by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security cited no specific intelligence that al-Qaeda was preparing to attack Miami, where President George W. Bush and Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry are scheduled to debate, said Katy Mynster, deputy press secretary for Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge.

?Although we continue to remain concerned about al-Qaeda?s desire to disrupt our democratic process, there is no information that terrorists are planning to attack this debate,? Mynster said. The debate is scheduled for 9 p.m. Miami time.

Local law enforcement agencies in Florida were advised about securing airports, harbors and other locations based on information about past al-Qaeda attacks and techniques, she said.

[txindy]

50. LOL! Just like the terror alert directed at schools

They put up a terror alert whenever they want to make * look important. At least Miami got one night of a more secure harbor. That's good. And different.

In the second debate, yes, it was a vest. In the first, no, not even close to enough coverage on his back. It's a rectangular box with a wire snaking up his right shoulder-blade, not a velcro strap. And not only on one side of his body. But in the second debate, yes, it's a vest, IMO.

[Jackpine Radical]

52. But there's no need to protect Kerry.

He's the terrorists' candidate. They wouldn't hurt him. They want him to win.

[shivaji]

42. Because Dumbya does not want to be outed as a coward wearing

a flak jacket.

[unfrigginreal]

29. Not according to the Washington Post

Several officials, pressed for a serious answer, flatly denied that anything was fishy about the hump. These officials said they had checked and that there was nothing under Bush's jacket -- not a wire, not a transmitter, not a garage door opener. Bush was not wearing a protective vest, sources said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18734-2004Oct8.html

[merh]

38. That is not body armor. Too much of his upper back and neck

is unprotected if it is.

And he wasn't wearing any - he jacket was just rumbled! :shrug:

[Gloria]

64. Wouldn't you also see a bulge over his other shoulder? The suit is

pulled tight and even at the angle in the photo, I would think a bulge would show at the "edge" of the picture at his left shoulder.....

[papau]

53. Is Bump in first Debate different from Bump in Second Debate?

[Fridays Child]

62. They appear different to me.

[Sparkly]

6. OmiGawd... For the WH to make any statement means it's getting traction

That's amazing. :crazy:

[AnIndependentTexan]

8. picture here

[Cha]

9. I was just going to post that from another

thread..looks like a smooth something FISHY to me!

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

10. Hey! Nicolle's RIGHT! It's just a transmitter-shaped rumple in his jacket.

Whew! Glad she cleared that one up!

THANX, Nicolle!

:toast:

[Sparkly]

12. Sometimes I get rumples shaped like triangles, even squares.

:eyes:

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

45. I got one shaped like Mt. Rushmore once

...you could clearly identify the faces of each of the four presidents.

Now excuse me, I have to get back to the INTERNETS.

:evilgrin:

[2Design]

13. maybe that is wear the batteries go for cheney to use the mouth piece

[Ksec]

14. A rectangular rumple.....boy, that is really weak.

You would think they could come up with something a little more believable.

Of course these are the same people who attacked the wrong country..

[DAGDA56]

15. He's gotta stop buying his suites...

...at Wal-Mart.

[Mr_Spock]

17. I would call it a pucker - and they can kiss my...

:D

[madaboutharry]

18. Did anyone notice whether Kerry

gave Bush a pat on the back last night? I wonder if the Kerry people are on to this.

[AntiCoup2K4]

24. He did, right after the handshake.

And since they were both using handheld microphones, Junior would have had no excuse to be wearing any sort of wireless devices.

[Native]

44. it was a hardy back slap too!

[Sparkly]

19. AP article here

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=696&e=5&u=/ap/20041009/ap_on_el_pr/bush_bulge

[David Zephyr]

59. Rate The Yahoo Story a 5

[VOX]

21. "Karl to Rumple, come in please. Karl to Rumple, come in, please."

"Can you hear me now, dipshit?"

[Mr E McSquare]

23. Is that a rumple on your back?

or are you just happy to see me?
Lies!

[LunaSea]

26. I hope its just a wireless device

Someone really should check the white house basement for pods...

[txindy]

40. Erm... Which would we prefer to have, then?

The pod creature or the original?! :evilgrin:

[undercover_brother]

28. might be a medical brace of some type

might be a medical brace of some type. Remember Roosevelt and his wheelchair. Perhaps Bush hurt his back bending over too much for the Saudis.

[AngryOldDem]

30. That, or a dowager's hump

[snippy]

34. You could be right. It has been a while since he last harmed himself.

His self inflicted injuries may be a symptom of something more serious than just stumbling stupidity and lack of coordination.

[TruthIsAll]

32. Once I had a rumple in the back of my shirt shaped like a perfect octagon

The next day, it was a perfect rectangle.

On the third day a perfect triangle.

Finally, when it became a circle on the fourth day, my friends became alarmed.

I told them it was a just a new line of shirts from Calvin Klein.

[Sparkly]

36. I hate when that happens.

Once I got a dodedecahedron. It took days just to get it down to a hexagon.

[54anickel]

33. Here's a story where the say he's NEVER been "assisted by an audio

signal". Never, ever?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002058469_bushbulge09.html

Mark McKinnon, media director for the Bush campaign, categorically denied the use of any sort of communication device.

"The truth is not nearly as interesting," McKinnon told MediaChannel.org. "The president has never been assisted by any audio signal."

[papau]

43. But why a bump again in the second debate?

[txindy]

46. The SECOND one looks like a protective vest

Just like the pictures people were posting here trying to convince us that the first 'rumple' was a vest. Which it wasn't. That second one looks like one, though. And they clearly aren't the same thing in both pictures. The second one looks like a vest and adequately covers his back like a protective vest should. Nothing is covering *'s head because, really, in his case it's not a vital area. :evilgrin:

The first 'rumple' was a receiver. The second was a vest. They're probably trying to convince us that the first is the same as the second. Not gonna work.

[54anickel]

63. Heh! How's bout that? Doesn't look the same though. It's the NEVER

claim that's got me. I've seen posts here that mention the feed being picked up in the past during some of his speeches.

[seabeyond]

66. i sat with mouth open listening to one speech

we were getting the audio then he would repeat.. was funny and bad and never did hear anything from anyone.

[dqueue]

35. typical...

Nothing to see here; move along now, sheeple. This is not the radio device you're looking for.

</sarcasm>

Yet, people STILL support this fool...

[txindy]

39. I read in one of the links posted earlier

in a similar thread about how easy it can be to block a signal to these wireless receivers. It's a very interesting read. Plus, there are a lot more pictures of * during the 1st debate, clearly showing the **cough** 'rumple' on his back. And snaking up his right shoulder-blade. Wiry.... I mean WILY little 'rumple'! LOL!

I'm guessing * was wired for sound and found that his receiver was blocked at different intervals. That's one of the reasons he was so awful. Some of those faces and silences could be explained by this, not to mention when he stated, "Let me finish," even though no one had attempted to stop him. Remember when * insisted on a follow-up, but went silent for nearly five full seconds after he was called on? I'd guess his signal became jammed, again, just as the reason for 'his' response was beginning to be fed to him.

http://cryptome.org/bush-bulge.htm#28

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

47. The motherfreepers stole this from Larry David!

Anyone remember "The Pants Tent" (first episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm)?

[MallRat]

48. A perfectly rectangular wrinkle?

Until this lame-ass statement, I didn't think much of this story.

I am now beginning to believe that there's something to this.

-MR

[progressivebydesign]

51. Okay. Now I KNOW he was wired!!!!!!!!!

That's why last time he was having all those wierd pauses and uncomfortable phrasings... He was wired, and they got caught. This time? They didn't use one because either

1) Bush pal Gibson DID let them know what the question topics would be (he had time that day)

2) Gibson told them what question topics he would choose from, so they could prepare Bush

3) Gallup polled the people on what type of question they'd like to ask! (thereby giving the Bushies the topics, so Bush could cram for the few questions..

4) Bush was hight on some sort of drugs that would make him wild and agitated, but improve his abilty to spout those stranged, canned answers. He was WAAAAYYYY too quick to answer the questions, a NORMAL person would have taken a moment to think.. he just started yelling the answer immediately.

[seabeyond]

54. Friday olderman asked white house what it was

the answer, his spine. backbone i think they said. and wouldn't get off that. so olderman laughed and let it go

today the jacket

all Kerry has to do is confirm if he was also wired with a microphone and then it can be put to rest if he too was wearing one

if Kerry wasn't wearing one, it was a bullet proof vest,..........i am not buying the fold in jacket or backbone, sorry, just one of those fancy pant elitist that reads,.........

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

55. If it were proven that Bush had a transmitter - it would destroy him

All he's got left is his homespun, cornpone style. Some idiots describe him as being genuine, spontaneous, and the kind of guy who says what's on his mind. He prides himself on letting everyone know where HE stands. If it were proven that the Bush running for office is just a talking device, and that his public image is a canned facade, his entire campaign would fall apart like a cheap suit.

[gauguin57]

56. Rumple, my Aunt Fanny! It's his WINGS! His Wings ...

[David Zephyr]

58. We Noticed the "Bump", Too. Definitely a Bullet Proof Jacket.

It was annoying and I was happy when my friend said, "What's with all the mass in the back of his suit jacket?"

I'm certain it was a bullet proof jacket. This guy is the biggest coward in America.

[Gloria]

65. Why doesn't he wear a bulletproof vest at his "rallies?" He talks in

his shirtsleeves. Even if the crowd is screened, isn't it just as dangerous, if not moreso, outdoors than indoors???

[arikara]

61. I've always believed that he's wired with an earpiece

ever since that horrible speech he gave after 9-11. He all of a sudden began to speak coherently (for him).

The thing is, he can't string a complete sentence together on his own without screwing up at least one word unless he's being mean about something. Being as he's dyslexic the speeches would come out pretty funny if he was using a teleprompter. So when his speech pattern is like this:

annoying short phrase... pause... eyes dart, tongue flick...annoying short phrase... pause... eyes dart, tongue flick... annoying short phrase... etc

I've always thought that he was getting fed his lines in short manageable chunks that he could just parrot. The thing is, I thought that technology would be better than having to wear a big rectangular box on your back to have a receiver in your ear.