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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:11 PM Original message |
We really can't compete in the South. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. The South Would Require Winning Local Offices & Redistricting |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. How can you redistrict to nullify the Bubba vote, |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. Not only do we have local races, but we have statewide too |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. we don't need to win the deep south |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. we need to get a couple of states in the south |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. Never say never! The south is made of PEOPLE and all they need is |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I agree with bits and pieces here. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 03:56 AM Response to Reply #4 |
63. My problem with courting the South |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
77. Actually, when P.T. Barnum came up with the 'sucker' quote |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
7. Born in the South, lived here all my life, and |
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lakemonster11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't know. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. No one is talking about competing in Alabama or Mississippi |
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vixannewigg (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Give Virginia a Chance |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Hi vixannewigg!! |
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Tom Yossarian Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Why not? The only ads that ran down here were Bush related |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
54. New industry |
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Orlandodem (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
10. Focus on New Eng, MidWest, and SouthWest. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Carter and Clinton won in the south. |
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pstokely (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. but they were southerners |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
58. I don't think the OP was making that distinction. |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. Forget the South. Forget the red states, period... |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. The South has the most electoral votes of any region |
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offroader_101 (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. the south has always been republican |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Is this some kind of joke? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 10:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
78. One caveat..... |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. American history 101 |
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libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I think Tweed means that the "values" the modern day repub embraces have |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Those "values" |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
62. Yeah, it wasn't me, thank you for pointing that out |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
79. The public schools are horrifyingly bad these days |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. Get rid of the ELECTORAL COLLEGE |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Bush won the popular vote.... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. True |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I agree, if it weren't for the electoral college |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
64. Those MS counties are probably 75-90% AA |
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ElizabethEdwards (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. Think about recent Democratic governors in the South |
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Tweed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Great post, if only people would look at the numbers in the South |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Agree with an exception: |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Those governors are almost all conservative Democrats. |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Warner would be a good nominee, I admit I am biased but its true |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
65. As VP |
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AlFrankenFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. I completely agree |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
24. The South Has 170 Electoral College Votes... |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. See my post #26 above. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. A Warner-Richardson Ticket Puts VA, NC and FL in Play.. |
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shawmut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
28. 1928 |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Smith was a Catholic, |
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JohnKleeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. was? still is some |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. WI Had As Many EC Votes as CA |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. ignorance in the south is RAMPANT |
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libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I've been in the South for 12 years and I concur! |
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Fifth of Five (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. I agree |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
42. Ho-hum - another "we can't compete" thread. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
44. "these people" "out-bubba" |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. We can too compete! |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
47. Your theory just doesn't hold water.. |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Let's take a peek at them. |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Another Ford? What about a Guiliani? |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:19 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Giuliani would probably get a a lot of inertia support -- |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. I mostly agree |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
74. The Hostage Crisis And Inflation Destroyed Carter... |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. Agree completely. The Southern moderates are in denial. |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 10:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You are wrong six ways to Sunday |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. I agree. If we want to WIN the south then we need to set up viable |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:56 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Dems getting the white rural vote is as unrealistic as Repubs |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Dems getting SOME districts beats Dems getting none |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
67. I agree completely |
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Fifth of Five (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. I completely agree with this post. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
50. I just can't see saying forget the south! |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
51. Because ignorance, fear, and pulpit-dwelling grifters rule the south |
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CBHagman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-09-04 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
52. Don't be silly. |
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lawladyprof (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
56. O'h yes we can-it will be painfully slow but here is an idea |
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choicevoice (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
57. I think with a little attention Kerry could have taken Louisiana |
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xequals (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. No way Kerry could've taken LA |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
68. My VERY conservative hometown in GA went Kerry.-56.60% What a suprise!! |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
71. Mississipi and Alabama are in grasp |
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auburngrad82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
72. We just need to work on changing Southerners' perceptions of |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
73. Who tried to compete? When did Kerry campaign down here? |
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Julien Sorel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. Without going into the "I live here, so I know," |
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bluedonkey (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
76. IMHO |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
81. kick |
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