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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:15 AM Original message |
Patriot II, Mandatory Nat I D Cards,Mandatory Job requirement passed House |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. More Republicans opposed the bill than Democrats |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
28. and this surprises whom? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Or maybe someone is lying about what is in the bill |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Nah, you misunderstand |
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Us vs Them (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Wait, wait, wait. What's this about mandatory job requirement? |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Seriously??? What the hell does that have to do with terrorism? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 12:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. No, it's just more fear-mongering and hysteria |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. The House version passed contains Patriot II, much worse than Patriot I |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. For once you and I agree... |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. I think that refers to foreigners, not citizens, but I'm not sure. |
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mohinoaklawnillinois (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Here's the toll-free number for the Capitol switchboard: |
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Nikepallas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Link please. Does this mean my husband will have to get permission |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Go to Late Breaking News. There's a long discussion about it. |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. Here's the text of that thread |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. He's talking about the Intelligence Reform Act, S2845 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. No. Some people are just lying. |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
6. So that's it |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. what is the objection to national ID cards? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 03:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. because when blended with Poindexter's TIA . . |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I don't think a national ID card is the problem |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Well, why is it needed if the social security card does the same? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. the SSN is specifically prohibited from being used for that purpose |
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el_gato (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. people who have faith in the good will of those in power |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I have no faith whatsoever in those in power |
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420inTN (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
38. Social Security IDs are not unique identifiers... |
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mhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. I Think You Are Right - I Am Tangentially Working For A Company |
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MNBiker (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 07:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
45. Papers...Sho me yor Pappers....Get it... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. Got a bill number? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. S 2845 |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Which turns out to be the Intelligence Reform Act... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. He was a conferee becasue he is Chairman of the Judiciary Committee |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. And what a chairman! |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
12. So it's the intelligence reform act, S2845 that doesn't do any such thing |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Fear mongering and hysteria, against Dems |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I guess we're supposed to think Tom Tancredo and Roscoe Bartlett |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Please translate that into English |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Sure thing... |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
18. i didnt reealize that 'intelligence reform' and patriot II were the same.. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. They're not |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The only Senator to vote against the Patriot act (Feingold) voted for this |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. Votes were posted here last night. Pelosi voted Yes. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 06:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. So did Russ Feingold (The only Senator to vote against the Patriot Act) |
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KeireG (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-04 11:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Don't believe everything you see posted at DU? |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 12:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. on first glance, it appears to repeal the bill of rights |
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proudbluestater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-04 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
44. It was the Intelligence Reform bill that passed |
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