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Tue Dec-14-04 06:17 PM Original message |
Is there such a thing as a 'difference of opinion' on the Iraq 'war'? |
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knowbody0
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. no doubt |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Is it nationalism that's driving Democrats to support this war? |
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w4rma
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I think it's fear that big media will go OJ on their coverage of them and |
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knowbody0
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. jim mcdermot was one who did and does speak out against |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. And we should all be thankful for those brave Dems... |
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lastliberalintexas
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. It depends on which Democrats you are speaking of |
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Tinoire
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
62. Spot on! Great post! n/t |
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crasmane
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
74. I think it's cowardice among the leadership and in the ranks. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. I knew the war was wrong |
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gaia_gardener
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. How is it that so many of us saw |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yeah, I know what you mean |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. BS |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Sure it is. Democrats know that Bush* lied this nation into war... |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I'm saying the one thing has nothing to do with the other. |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It wasn't a 'pretense'...it was a lie... |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. No it doesn't. |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Then perhaps you could explain the 'complicated' nuances? |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. It depends somewhat on not changing the subject. |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. The subject has remained the same... |
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
81. Deleted message |
LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
90. No I don't, and you should really take that back. |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. where does he say you dont belong? |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. "I keep wondering about you" |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. uh.....k |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. You actually could serve as a "hostile witness" here. |
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Forkboy
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. I will certainly agree that you're no freeper or troll |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Understood; it's just a legal term. n/t |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. P. S. Lot of nerve you got telling me I don't belong here... |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. You've been here since NOVEMBER 30TH and you tell me this shit? |
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LoZoccolo
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. You know what? I lied. I'm hitting alert now. |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. The IRAQIS want us out IMMEDIATELY. So if we're now invading & occupying |
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cali
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. I've actually read differing reports |
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JaneDoughnut
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
76. Me too |
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LoZoccolo
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
50. It would be another lie... |
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wtmusic
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. The world is safer without Saddam |
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flordehinojos
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. so many of us KNEW that the war was wrong, just on principle it was wrong |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. But isn't it more than a 'belief' that the war... |
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flordehinojos
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
27. I absolutely agree with you ... |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
63. I remember Kennedy giving his 'Why Now, Why Iraq?" speech... |
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. pnac types, democrats like peter beinart, |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. Absolutely; well said. |
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knowbody0
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. crimes against humanity IN OUR NAME (barf) |
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JaneDoughnut
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. Funny you should ask |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Does she know the Human Rights groups say NO it is NOT |
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JaneDoughnut
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. She's usually pretty smart |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Try sending her these links? |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm satisfied with your attack |
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JaneDoughnut
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. That is really the only aspect we should continue to debate. |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Leaving Iraq unprotected... |
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RafterMan
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. Why would a UN/multinational force agree to do that? |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. They would do it once the US leaves Iraq... |
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RafterMan
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:55 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I don't think it goes without saying |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:49 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Something can't 'fall into chaos' if it's already there... |
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JaneDoughnut
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
77. Reparations, definitely |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. The vast majority of Iraqis want us out. NOW. |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I'm not so sure that there won't be thousands slaughtered |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. When was the last civil war in Iraq? |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I don't think that it is so cut and dry |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. SO WHAT. |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. When did Democrats become isolationist? |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. THEY DO NOT WANT US IN THEIR COUNTRY |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Sorry, my Caps Lock button doesn't work |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Good grief. |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. They're slaughtering each other now as the US watches... |
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Finding Rawls
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I want to agree with you |
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debsianben
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Tue Dec-14-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Worse than Fallujah? |
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dpibel
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Tue Dec-14-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Interesting recent history |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. When Shia Najef was massacred by US forces, the SUNNI came with |
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dpibel
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. This, too |
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gottaB
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. If you're going to polarize the debate in order to meet an objective |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. It's no more complicated than telling the truth. |
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gottaB
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Tue Dec-14-04 09:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I was talking about polarization |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 09:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Well...I'm not a politician and... |
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wyldwolf
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Tue Dec-14-04 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. sure. There was the way Howard Dean wanted to do it... |
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Forkboy
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Deanophobia...the disease that can't be cured. |
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gottaB
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Deanophilia.... |
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Q
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Tue Dec-14-04 08:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. And there were millions that didn't want to 'do it' at all... |
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Tue Dec-14-04 10:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Yes, yes, and yes. |
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XemaSab
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Tue Dec-14-04 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
58. Two issues at stake.... |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 05:23 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. It could be called the 'Vietnam Syndrome'... |
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Disturbed
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:19 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Iraq Invasion was illegal and immoral... |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:56 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. The Bushies install a puppet government that WON'T ask for the US... |
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XemaSab
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You're right |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. USA IN Iraq is the reason Iraq is unstable. |
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XemaSab
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Instability |
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LynnTheDem
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. it's WHAT THEY WANT. |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
69. I brought this subject up because of a conversation... |
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
72. Excellent point, Q! |
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crasmane
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
73. And these are the people who aren't living in the real world. |
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tngledwebb
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Wed Dec-15-04 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
75. Ask how it all began. |
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JaneDoughnut
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Wed Dec-15-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. It was our "catalyzing event" |
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Q
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:22 AM Response to Reply #78 |
105. There are few in the Dem leadership that will even talk about PNAC... |
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
80. I don't know a single Dem who supports the war in Iraq |
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. For hell sakes...Kerry supported it...the DLC supports it... |
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. No need to be like that. |
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Q
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:15 AM Response to Reply #86 |
104. My apologies... |
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tngledwebb
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Thu Dec-16-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
108. By ommision, after 9/11 they all took a pass. |
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gottaB
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Thu Dec-16-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Wellstone voted for USA PATRIOT Act |
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tngledwebb
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Thu Dec-16-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Thanks for the correction, looks like Feingold was the only one? |
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Wed Dec-15-04 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
83. They're still worried about "moral" issues about sex. |
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dpibel
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Wed Dec-15-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
84. Buyout |
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Q
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Wed Dec-15-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Bush*, the Neocons and Neodems can't afford peace in Iraq... |
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malaise
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Great thread |
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Q
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:12 AM Response to Reply #88 |
103. This is why we're seeing the Bushies insist that the 'election'... |
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imenja
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Wed Dec-15-04 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
89. There is right and wrong |
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Disturbed
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Wed Dec-15-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. The Rethugs and Neocons are clever. |
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IndyPriest
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Wed Dec-15-04 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
101. "Wrong War, Wrong place, Wrong time" |
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Q
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Thu Dec-16-04 07:02 AM Response to Reply #101 |
102. And just how dumb did it sound when Kerry... |
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IndyPriest
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Thu Dec-16-04 10:09 AM Response to Reply #102 |
106. Q: what does "fight it better" mean? |
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Thu Dec-16-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Valid point... |
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