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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 02:27 AM Original message |
As of right now, the DLC is more my enemy than the Republicans |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. You must not want to win Walt. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Because he worked for the vile Christian Coalition |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. I just thought I'd be the first one to get that one in |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 02:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. understanding your "enemy" |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If enough people buy into the PNAC rightwing agenda of theDLC |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. hatred wins, as usual |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Pulling out the "hatred" canard |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Ok |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:41 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. So exposing the fact that a PNAC Christian Coalition member |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. I think it is a very useful thing to do Walt |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. No, ... thank YOU! |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
65. What issues and principles are central to you? |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 08:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. How is it 'hatred' to not want your party... |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 06:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
74. it's not |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:12 PM Original message |
we lose because no one wants to vote for the lesser republican party |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. Deleted message |
WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. Oh come on |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. forget it |
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mazzarro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:10 AM Response to Original message |
7. Every DLC analysis of electoral results |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "moving to the center" |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
10. It gets uglier! Thanks Walt for digging this up! more PNAC for the DLC |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. But, Walt... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Yep, I was W-R-O-N-G |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. September 20, 2001 Letter of PNAC to President George W. Bush |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. If the DLC gets their way |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
42. Have you seen the latest PNAC letter? |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. No I hadn't! This one is war against Putin. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:54 AM Response to Original message |
14. April 3, 2002 PNAC letter to George W. Bush |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
19. There is insanity in this statement - same as in the primaries. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:49 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. There is no way to get rid of the BFEE now |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. Agreed. People hate purges, but these people mean us harm. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. They don't just mean us harm |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Sadly, that is a line of reasoning that is neither productive, nor allowed |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:50 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The PNAC/DLC will not give up |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Skinner said last week that dissing the Democratic Party is a good |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Then I suggest you hit alert |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. The DLC is NOT the democratic party |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Yeah, but he said the Democratic Party should be shitcanned for another |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. If the PNAC/DLC gets its way there is no Democratic Party |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. All the more reason to fight them. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Can't fight a guerilla |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I think DU is aware of what the DLC is. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I disagree |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You can lead a horse to water... |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Don't talk about it = More people don't find out about it |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. I should have said the PNAC/DLC |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
28. come on, Walt. You're better than this... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. He's a member of PNAC |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. What are you talking about? |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. While I get what you are saying (context does matter) |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. check out the thread I started on the politics of false cause. nt |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. PNAC and Christian Coalition |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. nor would I ask you to do so ...but I do think that you owe ... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I gave an honest representation |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. it was an article by a dude or dudette who was quite open about prior ... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. You've left out something far more important |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. but who cares what he wants? |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Vote DLC if you want to |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. whatever ... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I'm not being alarmist |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. suggesting that those who might differ with you are pollyannish is ... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Kinda like suggesting that those who disagree with you are "alarmist"? |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. not at all but ... |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
34. I'm willing to give this guy a chance |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Sadly, a fair amount of our financing this year was from corporate sources |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Bingo. Couldn't have said it better myself. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. I'm NOT willing to give the guy a chance. |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
57. Why should I give him a chance when the PNAC/DLC |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. The DLC(R) have always been our enemies. |
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Gold Metal Flake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
43. Walt, everytime a person reveals the DLC as a tool of the RNC.... |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 12:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Oh well |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
58. THE DLC MUST GO |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. I couldn't agree more Walt. |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
64. A FUCKING MEN WALT!! |
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Yuugal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
66. DLC = more of the same nt |
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merkins (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
67. What an Eye-Opener .. thanks Walt & Tinoire |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. I second your post. |
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Tinoire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. My (our) pleasure Merkins |
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Borgnine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
77. I agree with you. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
78. Excise the cancer |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-19-04 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
79. Yep |
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