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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:01 AM Original message |
Dean's remarks on choice from the DNC conference in Orlando. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. If a DLCer would say this, it would be used as more ammo |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. But they're not. The DLC is saying we have to "soften our stance" |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Link please. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Here's one: |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I don't get it, your link seems to go along with Dean's stance... |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Did you read the part about them voting for restrictions on abortion? NT |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. I will admit that I am conflicted about parental notification I'm not sure |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Cant you find anything at the DLC website? If this is their policy |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Another: |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
42. This doesn't even mention DLC . DLC policy:www.ndol.org |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. It doesn't take long for this to flare up again... sheesh! |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Except that Dean and many others don't want to |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Thats cause Dean wants it for himself. It has been the pattern |
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AmyStrange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 06:27 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. unfortunately... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Why call them's DEANs Dozen. |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
4. to embrace pro-life Dem's is not the same as eroding abortion rights |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Some of them do want to soften it. You are right, welcoming is good. |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. What would change in practical terms? |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
53. partial birth abortions |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. :Partial Birth" abortions |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. The problem with this approach is that people who are anti- |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I'm not sure I'm understanding ... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No--sorry if my post was confusing. |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Well, OK ... |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. No harm in trying. |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. the essential problem with the pro-choice position |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I disagree |
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imenja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. I don't disagree with much of that |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Any decent reference on fetal development should do ... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
6. Ahhh the grace we give Dean, the moderate. |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. If Tim Roemer made the statement "We ought not to turn our back |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Deleted message |
xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. WTF Let's not be rude....The poster was right. I have proof! |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
24. I agree |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Clark is selling his brand "General Clark" |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. WTF? Where did this come from? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Tip |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I wasn't being sarcastic so much as I was being pissed off. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
50. Don't take the lessons. Trust me you won't get your moneys worth. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. I was responding to this |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! |
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FightinNewDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
92. You are wrong in one respect |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I apologise.....Believe it or not, I like Dean |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Actually, he's not even "anti-war". He's anti IRAQ war. NT |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Good point |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 06:24 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. You sell short... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. "fairly moderate in many of his positions" Wouldn't that move us to the |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 11:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
77. Why would it? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:13 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I thought we wanted a lefty, not a moderate. |
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w13rd0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. Common enough mistake... |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Wouldn't you prefer a true liberal? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:26 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. ummmmmmmm no |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
81. Where we is who....Dean interns? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Most DFA supporters are moderates. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:15 AM Response to Reply #56 |
79. "Half of them (DFA supporters) aren't even Democrats." |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. And he said he favors bans on late-term abortion. I think that's |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Let's be honest you're not going to get a late term abortion like a soda |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. some states have essentially no abortion laws. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 09:33 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Agreed. If there aren't any then don't mess with a good thing. Those |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. But that allows the anti-abortion forces to frame the debate. |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. bull |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. LOL, how true that is! The few of us at DU who are pro-life will |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:36 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Pity |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Dean said to embrace....listen to the words of the saviour... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. Are you aware many of "his supporters" are moderate as well? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Wouldnt a centrist move the party away from the left? |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. He's not selling us out at all |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:56 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. Amen Night Owl! |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:04 AM Response to Original message |
14. "If they are really dedicated to the welfare of children" |
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Pepperbelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
27. I am pretty moderate on many things and I think Dean would be good. |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
37. I'm disappointed. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Sacrilege! Dean can do no wrong! Welcome to DU by the way. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Well, then you will just have to leave the party. |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Whatever. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
46. The others would be saying: "Should we embrace pro-choice." |
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Obviousman (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
47. It's like his so called confederate flag flap |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
51. Tell yourself: if we turn our backs on them....they would go to the GOP. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Dean said the late term abortion ban had a chilling effect on doctors. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #51 |
71. Let them go. We need to create more liberal Dems! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. From where? |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. From the 200 million that didn't vote! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 07:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. You don't understand what I am saying. |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 08:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Don't get me wrong ,madfloridian. I have been campaigning for Dean for |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
66. Roemer voted to ban saving life of woman...Dean says effect...chilling. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-24-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. How could any Democrat even contemplate backing Roemer |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:16 AM Response to Reply #68 |
80. Yeah. He doesn't even look like Dean. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:40 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Still trying to get Dems to band together I see |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. AWWW. Are we oversensitive on Dean? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 07:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. I'm not a Dean guy |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Just a wanabe? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-27-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. Why must you always bash Dems? |
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x_y_no (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 07:39 AM Response to Reply #80 |
84. ugh ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I am sorry you called my name, saying I slur Clark. I did not do that. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-25-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. And BTW, how was this post about Clark? |
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greenohio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-26-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. So teach us the true mean of productive. |
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