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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:49 AM Original message |
So, what do we make of Kerry as a Senator who won't stand with Boxer |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh yippee... let's bash Kerry some more.... ONLY ONE SENATOR |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
16. I just remembered what one of Kerry's handlers posted on DU--that |
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Warpy
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. The problem with playing chess |
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blm
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. So, YOUR idea was take the focus OFF the voting problems and put it ON |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. I'll describe for you SOME of what would've happened |
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blm
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Sun Jan-09-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
88. No. I think you think there's a fair press for the Democrats and somehow |
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mistertrickster
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Mon Jan-10-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
124. Wow, well said. Agreed! |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #16 |
94. Yeah! Too bad Kerry didn't play his Chest instead... |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
129. Handlers? What handlers? |
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NYCGirl
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. He's referring to the poster who was here called |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. no, we need to keep it up, for two reasons |
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Prodemsouth
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. I agree, well said. It is amazing to me that kerry has any defenders left |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
63. Great post. |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. I've been saying since BEFORE 2002 that the people we |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
98. totally agree.. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #71 |
122. a hard lesson to learn, Eloriel |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
95. Fully Agree n/t |
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Southsideirish
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Why can't he be held accountable for his actions? |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. "He lost us the election" Uh-huh... |
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lojasmo
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Enabling Bush's policies is "good work? Uh-uh. |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. No, he didn't "lose us the election," |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:29 AM Response to Reply #72 |
114. Yeah, what you said n/t |
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jrthin
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Excuse me, but as someone |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. And as someone who has also given precious dollars, time and energy |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. What evidence do yo have that he is fighting |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. What evidence do you have that he's not? |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Plenty. |
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femme.democratique
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:45 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. Jesse Jackson said Kerry fought AGAINST their work in Ohio! |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I'm on your side. |
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femme.democratique
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Sun Jan-09-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. yup, replied to wrong post .... so sorry!!! :-) eom |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
115. Jesse Jackson and the Greens said Kerry worked AGAINST them |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Can you explain further what Jesse and the Greens said specifically |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-10-05 07:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
132. Can you elaborate on what Jesse Jackson said specifically |
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jrthin
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Sun Jan-09-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #67 |
91. Thank you for clearly stating |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:31 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. You're welcome. |
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stray cat
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. That he didn't want to minimize the protests impact. |
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Kolesar
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. well stated & nicely contrasted w/ the inflammatory thesis of this thread |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Repubs don't play "nice," though. |
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SpongeBob
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
37. We also needed to contest THIS election |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. Hi SpongeBob! |
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SpongeBob
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:09 AM Response to Reply #68 |
112. Hi OrwellwasRight! |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
45. Kerry reinforced the perception of himself as a cowardly loser |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
76. If we can't learn to counter the lies and spin from the rightwing |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
103. You're so right. |
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mistertrickster
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Mon Jan-10-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
125. And by getting our heads bashed in and shot and killed all across the |
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CTLawGuy
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
107. if we base our actions on trying to minimize |
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Overseas
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
136. I think the "Sore Loser" Concept is a Republican Plant |
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Benhurst
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. How could he stand with Boxer when he was, as promised, |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:52 AM Original message |
What's to say? Kerry is a Loser |
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Cobalt Violet
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
10. I disagree with you. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. you mean, Kerry is a winner? |
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Cobalt Violet
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. I think so. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. I might agree with you, if Kerry had opened his mouth |
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Carolina
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Tue Jan-11-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
145. so right |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
116. No way was he part of "the fix" |
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AlbizuX
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. spineless.... |
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liberalpragmatist
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I'm not interested in flame wars |
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Cobalt Violet
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I disagree with you! |
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ginnyinWI
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
5. He did the right thing. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. he could have mentioned Diebold before the election? |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
77. Ahhh, but he DID tell us to quit crying in our teacups and |
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robbedvoter
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. AND he didn't do a thing about Diebold, voting for the past 4 years |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. let's not forget the pro-Kerry Conspiracy Theories |
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CTLawGuy
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
109. and my favorite |
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Leilani
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:49 PM Response to Reply #97 |
138. Those are the things that get me really angry. |
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liberalpragmatist
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. He shouldn't have challenged the results - he was right to let Boxer do it |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
79. No, he didn't have to be "primary mover" and I've seen few arguments |
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liberalpragmatist
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Sun Jan-09-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
106. Disagree somewhat but I can see your point |
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RogueTrooper
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. He was in Iraq |
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graywarrior
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. Can we move the fuck on to BUSH BASHING? |
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stray cat
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Amen! |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Point taken. Still, Bush Bashing would be more effective if |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Indeed. |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Nice ad hominem. Say, have you been talking to my wife?! Or perhaps |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. The ad hominem was to explain the inadequacies of someone |
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Cobalt Violet
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Yes , we can. |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
99. ok.. Death Squads in Iraq by appointing Negroponte.. Guess Whoo Confirmed |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
117. LOL |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
14. Collaborator. |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Thanks for a clear-eyed analysis. This is basically my feeling too. |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. make check out to Rev. Moon |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Cheers. I got the same e-mail and I actually replied, writing |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
80. Surely you jest |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
17. maybe he was standing with Howie the Hasbeen and his also-ran friends |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
100. In Iraq on January 6th. just where the Candidate Elect needed to be... |
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Leilani
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:56 PM Response to Reply #100 |
140. The Candidate Elect? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. I feel Kerry did what was feasible. I also feel it had MORE impact coming |
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hansolsen
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
21. There are a lot of reasons I believe Kerry was a terrible candidate. I |
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graywarrior
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
23. Kerry bashers never have a poster profile |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Rev. Moon I mean Dr. Dean advise them not to. n/t |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I don't understand your obsession with Rev. Moon. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
74. It's a simple smear, they hate the idea of grassroots involvement |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:16 PM Original message |
That's the "either - or" argument. Just because everything Bush does |
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liberalpragmatist
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. Could it be? A non-Kerry supporter who I can reason with? |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
43. Hear, hear. nt. |
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Caution
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
33. Coming from Kerry it looks like griping. It HAD to come from someone else |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. They don't want to see it. They want to have a rationale for their... |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Ease up, my friend. I sent money to Kerry and wrote letters to the editor |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. He IS taking a stand on something..he wnt to Iraq and met with the Syrian |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
81. His displomatic visit |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I trust that he knew more than you or I, and he knew that his |
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radio4progressives
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
96. Of coruse the Media would have Bashed Kerry for taking a stand, so WHAT? |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Look, why don't you go talk it over at a Moonies for Dean meet-up, |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Cool it on your Dean - Moonie connection. You made your point. |
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CTLawGuy
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
110. this "meaningless also ran" |
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
137. It's an oedipal thing. n/t |
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SpongeBob
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. In Ukraine and Romania the CANDIDATE lead the fight... |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Right, with CIA backing. Well the CIA candidate won here too. n/t |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
82. Right, and this candidate didn't have to LEAD it, but he also didn't |
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saltpoint
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
40. Kerry's recent two-hour meeting with -- |
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graywarrior
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
44. Put the blame squarely where it belongs: The Democratic Party |
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Misunderestimator
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. Well said, graywarrior.... we all know that would be the scenario... |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. Can we bash Feingold or Byrd too? That would be fun! |
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mistertrickster
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Thanks for that. I hadn't heard. I wonder why he didn't mention that |
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OrwellwasRight
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Sun Jan-09-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
66. A Democrat introducing legislation in the 109th Congress |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
119. and we will be watching carefully |
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T Town Jake
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Sun Jan-09-05 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
58. He was the nominee, and worthy of the support given him... |
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Eloriel
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
69. Why nothing, of course -- whoever expected anything more is |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
73. What a load of pig dung |
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robbedvoter
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Sun Jan-09-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Uh, Boxer's duties are different from others'? Why? Is she the boss? |
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zulchzulu
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Sun Jan-09-05 06:50 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Ah yes...the old not knowing WTF you are talking about syndrome... |
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mistertrickster
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
127. We're all half-witted, mealy-mouthed Kerry bashers. I don't think so. |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:38 AM Response to Reply #73 |
118. *yawn* |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:48 AM Response to Reply #73 |
121. Do you have proof on these assertions |
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zulchzulu
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. OK...I guess I'll do your homework for you |
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Geek_Girl
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Sun Jan-09-05 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
75. I Like Kerry |
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Geek_Girl
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Sun Jan-09-05 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
78. I'm Just Happy that One Senator stood up |
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tavalon
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:49 AM Response to Reply #78 |
123. LOL! |
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robbedvoter
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Sun Jan-09-05 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
86. Pulling a Kerry - talking for your constituents , voting for W |
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laugle
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Sun Jan-09-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
90. KERRY'S NO SHOW FOR BOXER |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 06:44 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. So where was Howie, SBVT patrol? Or cooking up a new slander-site? |
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InvisibleBallots
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:47 AM Response to Reply #90 |
120. Maybe Boxer can show Kerry what a SPINE looks like |
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marcologico
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
101. Folks singing from the Rove choirbook is not doing much for your also-ran. |
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FreeStateDemocrat
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Sun Jan-09-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
104. Best course for public credibility of Democratic Party |
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biglake
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Sun Jan-09-05 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
105. Influence? Anyone? Suit to release Heintz papers? |
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Gyre
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
108. dead man walking |
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Indiana-Bluejay
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Sun Jan-09-05 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
111. We are in a world of sh*t... |
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demwing
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
113. You don't bring a knife to a gun fight. |
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #113 |
133. It's sort of like watching the debate geek get beat up by the popular jock |
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
126. Could he be another "Douche Bag of Liberty?" |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Mon Jan-10-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
128. A realist who isn't a sore loser |
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LittleClarkie
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Mon Jan-10-05 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
134. A hat, a broach, or a pterodactyl |
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Tue Jan-11-05 10:07 AM Response to Reply #134 |
141. I get it! |
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LittleClarkie
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Tue Jan-11-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Joke grenade |
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Mon Jan-10-05 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
139. I can still here his Authoritative voice loud & clear |
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Califooyah Operative
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Tue Jan-11-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
142. I don't make anything special |
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Tue Jan-11-05 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
143. He wasn't even in the country |
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Tue Jan-11-05 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
146. Why single out Kerry.... |
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Tue Jan-11-05 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
147. My opinion is unchanged since 2002. Kerry has betrayed us... |
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